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Jippa posted:It's definitely american. I remember when I first got on the internet I really noticed it (around 9/11 and the freedom fries bollocks). Nah, the nancyboy French stereotype has deep roots in British culture and Americans only have it cause they carried it over from us in the first place. This is a country that's had multiple wars with France spanning most of a millenium, of course we've created an image of them as weak and cowardly.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Crazy to me that the French have this global reputation of being effete fancymen when in fact many of them are quite hard indeed. Both are acceptable modes of being of course and not necessarily mutually exclusive, just an interesting disparity which I suppose must be either Brit or Yank propaganda It's partly the unfortunate historical distinction between the vichy regime and the resistance during the Nazi occupation, and it's partly just standard-form fash enemy definition - the enemy is simultaneously too weak to be efefctive and strong enough that you have to be a hero to oppose them. It's been part of english-speaking western culture forever (jokes about french tanks having 1 forward gear and lots of reverse gears, that old google 'i'm feeling lucky' result that redirected 'french military vicotries' to a fake page about french military defeats, etc).
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kingturnip posted:It's weird that some people still think that peaceful protest is even remotely worth while in a modern democracy. I'm reminded of a bit at the end of The Patriot. On the morning of their probably disasterous last battle the one french officer comes out of his tent in full dress uniform, tassels and all, and declares "If we are all going to die, then at least I shall die well dressed!" And it's like....is this supposed to be making fun of him? Because this is badass.
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The "they didn't know better" argument is total arse water. Yes, we know that that society, at that time, decided that Colston was worthy of commemoration. But we aren't that society or in that time any more, so the statue belongs in the loving river. We're back to the same tiresome nationalist argument that "things that have happened" are sacrosanct and deserve special magic protection beyond the preservation of knowledge.
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Red Oktober posted:That’s some straight up Streets of Rage poo poo right there. https://twitter.com/max_lisbon/status/1269917099834642432 he cleared half the bridge, and the GO! -> sign suddenly lit up on the other half, so he comes hurtling over the barriers
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Guavanaut posted:https://twitter.com/BBradley_Mans/status/1269677091500494857 very reassuring to see an MP arguing that there's two distinct cultures in the UK, and that one of them - the one in the (((metropolitan))) areas - is Alien and Wrong
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Jippa posted:It's definitely american. I remember when I first got on the internet I really noticed it (around 9/11 and the freedom fries bollocks). The idea of the French being effete, pleasure-obsessed gadabouts is *way* older than that, and probably dates back to the Norman Conquest if not earlier. The fact these girly-men pretty consistently kicked the poo poo out of the stout yeomen of England for the better part of a millennium (to the point our national legends include the very few times we got a W on them, from Crecy to Waterloo) is conveniently ignored for the most part. Of course the modern legend mostly comes from the capitulation against Germany, which completely ignores the material reasons why they relied so heavily on the Maginot Line and had no possible plan B once that failed, that the BEF also got wiped out in that campaign (again, an abject defeat and retreat is somehow turned into a win in our national legend) and also that a lot of French people continually fought the Germans throughout the occupation and at far higher stakes than the British faced. Acting against that is one of the best lines from one of the very best episodes of The Simpsons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZUKEVU-TwM (which is from 1995, but for some reason gets caught up in Coalition Of The Willing bollocks from 2002/3)
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Apraxin posted:https://twitter.com/BBradley_Mans/status/1269712051695423490 Working class towns are apparently not metropolitan areas according to this shitwit. I'm sure Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Glasgow, loving LONDON, Oxford, Southampton, Portsmouth............ etc etc etc would have something to say abotu that. What a fascist shitwagon.
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Apraxin posted:https://twitter.com/BBradley_Mans/status/1269712051695423490 love mp's just mask off tweeting nazi poo poo.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:The idea of the French being effete, pleasure-obsessed gadabouts is *way* older than that, and probably dates back to the Norman Conquest if not earlier. The fact these girly-men pretty consistently kicked the poo poo out of the stout yeomen of England for the better part of a millennium (to the point our national legends include the very few times we got a W on them, from Crecy to Waterloo) is conveniently ignored for the most part. Bringing the Normans into it is extra fun because you're also seeing the anti-Viking sentiment that often boiled down to "those tall strong handsome well-groomed bastards with their regular bathing and exciting lifestyles keep coming over here and "abducting" our young women from their tedious life of turnips, smelly husbands and boring religion. This must be stopped!"
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Nah. Archaeologists regularly bitch that it's impossible to tell what era agricultural equipment comes from unless there's an associated find of trove, because once we started using iron tools around 500BC nothing changed in Britain for 2000 years apart from the face on the coins and the language spoken by the cunts in charge. It's probably where our national passivity towards government shittiness comes from; it's always been the same, it always will be the same, you just wait it out.
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In a way it's great to see all the gammons, thumbs and other Union Jack-in-Username-ers feeling let down that, contrary to what they thought they voted for, Daddy Boris hasn't turned water cannons and Army Reservists on all the urban/young/diverse/lefty/LGBTQ people or delivered some smackdown speech about how racism doesn't exist in Are Grate Nation but if it did the real victims would be white men because they make all the tough decisions and all that poo poo...but equally I'm kinda worried about what they'll do if they feel that Just to be clear, this isn't a "protesting racism makes people racist so we shouldn't do it" thing. Just my initial  being tempered somewhat.
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BizarroAzrael posted:I'm just so achingly jealous of the French: That's a great video, but I'm so broken by all these years of Internet pretty much my first thought was "That needs Guile Theme".
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Statues of old racists are exactly the type of thing that I imagine the gammon thought (inasmuch as they thought at all) would be protected when We Got Back Are Sovrunty, so it's extremely funny to see the Tories respond to the dunking with nothing but ineffectual table-thumping about JUSTICE on Twitter. They're looking incredibly weak right now *prepares for Tory approval to surge*
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biglads posted:That's a great video, but I'm so broken by all these years of Internet pretty much my first thought was "That needs Guile Theme". I believe the music is Geese Howard's theme
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goddamnedtwisto posted:The idea of the French being effete, pleasure-obsessed gadabouts is *way* older than that, and probably dates back to the Norman Conquest if not earlier. The fact these girly-men pretty consistently kicked the poo poo out of the stout yeomen of England for the better part of a millennium (to the point our national legends include the very few times we got a W on them, from Crecy to Waterloo) is conveniently ignored for the most part. The thing about Dunkirk that gets my goat is that if not for the French rearguard and defence of the town, the BEF + FF + FB force of 340,000 would not have got out. I think they lost 40,000 men, killed or captured. This gets glossed over to much imo. The French were just as good as us, but they were taken as badly as everybody else by the combined arms approach of the german forces as everybody else. I think I once read (it was an interview with a German general of the time) that if the allied forces had invaded Germany while their army was in Poland, the war would have ended there, but we had cautious leadership.
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perhaps everyone knows this after the events of yesterday but i didn't and it's worth repeating. i always assumed these statues were contemporaneous or near enough, but they were actually mostly put up in the period shortly before WW1 during the first wave of end of empire panic, to inspire a new generation to go out and conquer. Robert Clive died in 1774 but his statue in Whitehall wasn't erected until 1912. It's almost almost perfectly analogous to the daughters of the confederacy putting up cheap statues of confederate generals everywhere in the south during the civil rights protests in the 1960s.
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the correct approach would also leave the memorial permanently marked
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Borrovan posted:the correct approach would also leave the memorial permanently marked 
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That Churchill statue is so useful. Got a protest you want to give a bad name to? Just get a couple of boys in civvies down there with a spraypaint can and you've got angry headlines for days.
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Rarity posted:The Bristol building formerly known as Colston Hall is taking down all its signage while they finalise the new name The building formerly known as colston hall, now known simply as  Borrovan posted:the correct approach would also leave the memorial permanently marked The correct approach wouldn't leave it permanently marked, because it wouldn't leave it.
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George Floyd Hall or gtfo e: I would also accept 410,757,864,530 DEAD COPS Hall
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Necrothatcher posted:That Churchill statue is so useful. Got a protest you want to give a bad name to? Just get a couple of boys in civvies down there with a spraypaint can and you've got angry headlines for days. Like the cenotaph from that perspective.
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That HAS to be a pisstake, surely. There is no  large enough otherwise.
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:
During the cut on the pouring sugar my face morphed into this exact emote
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no, stop, dont https://twitter.com/IHateNYT/status/1269553090228826114
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Ha I posted that here a while back. So bad. e- the tea.
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:That HAS to be a pisstake, surely. The USA is a wild place when it comes to making drinks with boiling water, because at least in part electric kettles over there suck rear end because of the lower voltage electrical supply.
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Thank you for your concerns, 33%, we will forward them to *checks notes* the loving sea
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Sloth Life posted:I've skipped a bunch of posts and stuff sorry, can someone post the making masks person as the ones I ordered from ELLE seem to have gone astray If you live near a Home Bargains, they're selling 3 reusable white ones for £1.99 or single black neoprene ones (also washable) for the same price. I'm finding the latter very comfortable to wear. (They're also doing full face shields for £1.99 now after I spent nearly £8 ea on ordering some online a couple of weeks ago!) Pretty sure you'll find the same in somewhere like Wilco or BM Stores (same kind of places - cheap food, plastic boxes stuff).
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33%. It always staggers me that loving 30% of adults in this godforsaken hellhole are racist shitweasels.
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