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PederP posted:Compare the difference in punishment for drunk driving and driving with trace amounts of illegal substances (that haven't been affecting the body or brain for days or weeks). I thought that was struck down due to uncertainties in testing?
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KozmoNaut posted:That reminds me of the current version the knife law. Since 2016 knives with one-handed opening and/or locking mechanisms are no longer explicitly illegal, which is fine and good. However it also had a "small" change so that even the tiniest pocketknife is illegal to carry, unless you have a valid reason to carry a knife. Even the tiniest, most non-threatening and useless as a weapon Swiss army knife is illegal to carry, unless the cop in question decides he can't be bothered to write you a fine. Is this bad? I mean, okay probably Swiss army knives aren't used much in crime but having strong laws against carrying knives in general seems reasonable?
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Crimpolioni posted:Is this bad? I mean, okay probably Swiss army knives aren't used much in crime but having strong laws against carrying knives in general seems reasonable?
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Crimpolioni posted:Is this bad? I mean, okay probably Swiss army knives aren't used much in crime but having strong laws against carrying knives in general seems reasonable? "En knivløs mand er en livløs mand." I've carried a small pocketknife or keyring multitool for most of my life, it's just something that comes in handy for a million little everyday things. Opening packages, slicing apples/sausages/cheese, cutting string, cleaning fingernails, whittling sticks for cooking over open fire, all kinds of random things. Being stuck trying to cut chorizo with a flimsy plastic knife sucks so much. Just like the tiny flashlight I have on my keyring, I use it multiple times per week, and I carry it everywhere except for airports, concerts, bars, demonstrations, ie. places where security scrutiny is over the top, or where people are likely to get drunk and/or rowdy. I've never had anyone comment on it, but I'm also not the type of person to whip out a huge xXxTactical_OperatorxXx type knife and flick it around. It stays in my pocket until it's actually needed for something. Is knife is a tool, and the amount of exceptions and special cases needed in the law to let people own and use things like kitchen knifes and utility blades should tell you how needlessly strict the law is. Technically, it could be illegal for you to transport a kitchen knife home in your car, if you run too many errands on the same drive, instead of going directly home after having it sharpened at a store. E: also, tightening the knife laws didn't impact the amount of knife assaults and murders, almost as if people determined to attack other people don't care about a knife ban and knives can be found literally everywhere, by virtue of their utility and necessary presence in normal life. KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Jun 9, 2020 |
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PederP posted:No. The Danish approach will be to keep any and all drugs criminalized unless EU intervenes and makes it non-optional to legalize to some extent. In that case, we'll get a useless implementation where cannabis will be expensive, highly regulated *and* line the pockets of a small bunch of private sector oligopols.    Add smoking/snus. Why should it be legal to profit from selling death by cancer to people and causing enormous costs to society?
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Potrzebie posted:
I thought smokers was actually a net benefit for the state budget because they kill themselves via cancer and other smoking related health problems before they can enter the really costly age bracket. Basically being productive workers that die at or shortly after retirement. Not sure about the cost of snus users though.
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No, they're a net drain on public finances, they tend to die slowly of cancer, to put it bluntly.
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Crimpolioni posted:Is this bad? I mean, okay probably Swiss army knives aren't used much in crime but having strong laws against carrying knives in general seems reasonable? Not when those who come up with them are idiots. They implemented mandatory minimums and it almost immediately resulted in a gas station attendant getting a week in jail, because he forgot a box cutter in his car.
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KozmoNaut posted:"En knivløs mand er en livløs mand." Reminds me of a case a few years ago in Norway where a plumber who was on his way home from work were stopped by the police and fined because he had a cheap stanley hanging on his pants. I think he refused to pay, but can't remember exactly what happened in the end. There was also a case of a guy who were stopped by the police for some mundane reason and they found a knife in the glove box of his car and decided he deserved to be fined.
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I mean honestly, if people feel threatened by the mere presence of something like this, I'm not sure what to say. (I inherited it from my grandpa back in '96)
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This is pretty cool. Using genealogy to trace dna back to the suspect. https://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/banbrytande-metod-bakom-losningen-pa-dubbelmordet-i-linkoping/ DN posted:Rättsmedicinalverket tog fram en dna-profil ur spår från mördaren som tillvaratagits på brottsplatsen. Profilen laddades sedan upp mot det amerikanska företaget Family tree dna, som säljer dna-tester till hobbysläktforskare.
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Zudgemud posted:I thought smokers was actually a net benefit for the state budget because they kill themselves via cancer and other smoking related health problems before they can enter the really costly age bracket. Basically being productive workers that die at or shortly after retirement. Not sure about the cost of snus users though. Haha... ha. Cancerfonden posted:Rökning kostar samhället över 31 miljarder kronor varje år, visar en ny rapport. Det motsvarar hela primärvårdens kostnader för alla allmänläkare och sjuksköterskor. https://www.cancerfonden.se/nyhet/sa-mycket-kostar-rokningen-samhallet Total tax on tobacco is 11,9 billion sek. (https://www.ekonomifakta.se/fakta/skatter/skattetryck/skatteintakter-per-skatt/)
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Zudgemud posted:I thought smokers was actually a net benefit for the state budget because they kill themselves via cancer and other smoking related health problems before they can enter the really costly age bracket. Basically being productive workers that die at or shortly after retirement. Not sure about the cost of snus users though. Last I heard from a health economist, single, urban uneducated, male smokers are a net benefit, but every other group of smokers is not. It's probably ten year old data though, so it might have changed.
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In either case, it is dramatically not true here. Cancer is generally not a quick death and neither is lung deficiency
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It’s a pretty controversial area and obviously highly politicised, but the most comprehensive studies I’ve seen definitely convincingly argues that smokers are among the least expensive groups (that requires you to control for the generally lower social position of smokers as well). The reason is that the cancers, and especially heart diseases, you get from smoking kills you pretty fast and often right around retirement age. The most expensive group is slim non-smokers, they live a lot longer on average, well past retirement where they no longer (economically) benefit society outside of their consumption, and those are the expensive years, some with full time dementia care for example and a bunch of other normal old age stuff. If we really want to talk about it, then the ideal for society is to have people die just as they retire, as long as their money doesn’t disappear. Most smart people the health-economics area I’ve talked to, say that in general it’s a stupid argument. Smoking is loving bad for you and your friends and family and neighbours, and that’s why you should stop smoking. Going down the political dumbshit path of “well, achually THIS group is more expensive than THAT group and therefore...” just leads neo-eugenics and denying healthcare to the poor.
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Replacing pension with euthanasia is the only economically rational course of action.
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BonHair posted:Replacing pension with euthanasia is the only economically rational course of action. That wont be needed if we simply up the retirement age enough! Revelation 2-13 posted:It’s a pretty controversial area and obviously highly politicised, but the most comprehensive studies I’ve seen definitely convincingly argues that smokers are among the least expensive groups (that requires you to control for the generally lower social position of smokers as well). This have generally been my reading of the research too. We should stop smoking because it is bad for the smoker and people in their proximity, not because it is a financially sound course of action. Potrzebie posted:Haha... ha. Good thing I never argued this because it is a dumb comparison. Please read your own references. Your own reference posted:En svensk studie från 1991 visar att
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Revelation 2-13 posted:The reason is that the cancers, and especially heart diseases, you get from smoking kills you pretty fast and often right around retirement age. The most expensive group is slim non-smokers, they live a lot longer on average, well past retirement where they no longer (economically) benefit society outside of their consumption, and those are the expensive years, some with full time dementia care for example and a bunch of other normal old age stuff. If we really want to talk about it, then the ideal for society is to have people die just as they retire, as long as their money doesn’t disappear. So bring back Ättestupan? The English term is apparently ritual senicide, which is a word I didn't know I needed, but here we are. Oh, and Covid19 is actually resolving this issue for society. 
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This calculus only makes sense if you put the value of a year of pleb life at zero tho. Which I'm sure some people do!
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They're gonna turn us into bio batteries sooner than later. It's the natural way.
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THE BAR posted:They're gonna turn us into bio batteries sooner than later. It's the natural way. It's a step up from the originally plan which was to turn us into mulch.
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Alhazred posted:It's a step up from the originally plan which was to turn us into mulch. Oh, they upgraded from slurry at some point, I see?
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Alhazred posted:It's a step up from the originally plan which was to turn us into mulch. Ernst’s organic compost formula is made if people! Ernst’s organic compost formula is made if people!
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Threadkiller Dog posted:This calculus only makes sense if you put the value of a year of pleb life at zero tho. Which I'm sure some people do! I mean, did you see the jillion thinkpieces that came out at the start of the lockdown, where all the liberal think tanks demanded that the government show their work, specifically which monetary value they put on a human life and whether the projected cost exceeded this number?
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Bwalya Sørensen is a pretty terrible spokesperson in a lot of ways, but goddrat white people have gotten busy telling BLM-DK how to manage their poo poo. Nothing to do with the great momentum they're currently experiencing, of course.
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Finally the Palme murder is solved! For some reason I'm reminded of an episode of The Simpsons.
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The chief prosecutor for the Palme murder investigation group is named Krister Petersson
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SplitSoul posted:Bwalya Sørensen is a pretty terrible spokesperson in a lot of ways, but goddrat white people have gotten busy telling BLM-DK how to manage their poo poo. Nothing to do with the great momentum they're currently experiencing, of course. It bugs the hell out of me, because they (BLM-DK) do a lot of good work and are great at raising awareness about racism, even in Danes that are very stubborn about not seeing it, and they are definitely getting protests going and giving them momentum. But I really wish Bwalya would get a PR person or something 
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Amundsen is at it again... no racism in Norway yet media says everyone is a racist while Norway is basically burning and immigrant gangs rape white Norwegians: https://www.nrk.no/tromsogfinnmark/per-willy-amundsen-langer-ut-mot-norsk-presse-i-et-facebook-innlegg-1.15049209 I really have no words for how insane I find this even as a white immigrant. This is an ex-minister of Justice in frickin' Norway. The comments on his FB are even more depressing.
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abske_fides posted:I really have no words for how insane I find this even as a white immigrant. This is an ex-minister of Justice in frickin' Norway. The comments on his FB are even more depressing. Well, the thing about that is he's probably not the worst ex-minister of justice when it comes to opinions like that.
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Randarkman posted:Well, the thing about that is he's probably not the worst ex-minister of justice when it comes to opinions like that. To be fair, the list of racist former DoJ ministers has grown by leaps and bounds the last decade, so them one-upping each other to better stand out just makes sense.
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abske_fides posted:Amundsen is at it again... no racism in Norway yet media says everyone is a racist while Norway is basically burning and immigrant gangs rape white Norwegians: https://www.nrk.no/tromsogfinnmark/per-willy-amundsen-langer-ut-mot-norsk-presse-i-et-facebook-innlegg-1.15049209 quote:Han mener at når mediene fokuserer mye på rasisme kan det gjøre problemet større i seg selv. 
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Cynic Jester posted:To be fair, the list of racist former DoJ ministers has grown by leaps and bounds the last
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I wonder if other criminals can get police protection to the tune of hundreds of millions while racking up charges. https://nyheder.tv2.dk/krimi/2020-06-11-rasmus-paludan-tiltalt-for-14-forhold Edit: 51% don't think racism is a widespread problem. https://nyheder.tv2.dk/samfund/2020-06-12-racisme-er-ikke-et-udbredt-problem-i-danmark-mener-halvdelen-i-ny-undersoegelse Edit #2: Government opening the door for making emergency COVID-19 legislation permanent despite sundown clause. Minister refuses to answer questions. https://www.berlingske.dk/politik/centrering-af-magt-hos-regeringen-skulle-vaere-midlertidig-nu-aabner SplitSoul fucked around with this message at 10:28 on Jun 12, 2020 |
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Wellcome to Half of Stockholm will be there too so feel free to mingle thoroughly.
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You just reminded me Dead Island 2 is being released this year (same as the previous 5 years).
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Bard is such a pseudointellectual piece of poo poo.
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