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John_A_Tallon
Nov 22, 2000

Oh my! Check out that mitre!

The Fuzzy Hulk posted:

This is a fun little thing to watch, it shows Covid deaths vs other types of deaths from January to May.

https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/2637725/?fbclid=IwAR3BqXKgx-eMi5mFEP2ALGV6r10tfNI3gWzoApyaGpDLcsTv7Xfbi1pB86k

coronavirus posted:

What does Maternal deaths mean on that chart? Death during childbirth? Or is this some catholic bullshit

Means deaths from complications related to childbirth, miscarriage, or abortion. It's a catch-all to account for the fact that women are much more vulnerable to health issues during a pregnancy and in the six weeks after one.

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Pump Jockey posted:

The article has such a hopeful/optimistic vibe, but they’re burying the lede here, which is that the roni will easily gently caress up the lungs of healthy 20 year olds to the point where they need a lung transplant :magical:

Yeah I don’t want hope that in the event that I contract the disease, I can become a lich.

You know what’s easier and more effective than double lung transplants? Shutting down hairdressers and casinos, but we haven’t a hope of that.

Inept
Jul 8, 2003

QuarkJets posted:

Go to the gym? Stop it, none of the people protesting were going to the gym.

these morons were

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COd0YcpGDpA

Plant MONSTER.
Mar 16, 2018



I was watching simpsons at 0.75 without knowing until a scene where homer and bart were getting back massages at a hotel and the noises they were making were super drawn out like a youtube poop
We're still only allowing one person into the store, they have to sanitize their hands before touching things and they can't go past this certain point we set up.

All day I constantly have to corral people and repeat the same things. I go to the bathroom for two minutes and when I come out, there's like 8 people in our tiny store, two of them past the please-don't-go-past-here space.

"Just browsing!"

Haramstufe Rot
Jun 24, 2016

herd immunity working great for Sweden

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
Hey now covid kids, turn that frown upside down! Also your Y axis I guess

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?
Oh my god haha is there still a PYF charts thread?

Bleusilences
Jun 23, 2004

Be careful for what you wish for.

Wow someone failed some classes.

Polio Vax Scene
Apr 5, 2009



at this point I'm convinced somebody handed out a little guide book to the southern states "how to make deceptive charts to alleviate public concern regarding covid-19"

Time Cowboy
Nov 4, 2007

But Tarzan... The strangest thing has happened! I'm as bare... as the day I was born!
My second-favorite detail is that deaths (a pretty important metric) stopped getting updated April 17.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Rolo posted:

Oh my god haha is there still a PYF charts thread?

Yeah that's exactly where I found it :v:

Bleusilences
Jun 23, 2004

Be careful for what you wish for.

Time Cowboy posted:

My second-favorite detail is that deaths (a pretty important metric) stopped getting updated April 17.

That's actually the more important one.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Time Cowboy posted:

My second-favorite detail is that deaths (a pretty important metric) stopped getting updated April 17.

THat's because it's when they stopped dying of Corona, and started dying with Corona.

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo
My neighbor got forced back to work at IKEA and now probably has the Rona as they had a giant outbreak. Ms Derps seems destine to ignore any good advice and I'm pretty sure is actively trying to get it so I am preparing for death.

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope

Plant MONSTER. posted:

We're still only allowing one person into the store, they have to sanitize their hands before touching things and they can't go past this certain point we set up.

All day I constantly have to corral people and repeat the same things. I go to the bathroom for two minutes and when I come out, there's like 8 people in our tiny store, two of them past the please-don't-go-past-here space.

"Just browsing!"

There are people, and there are customers. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck customers. Is it legal to have a rotation of guards -- or even vigilantes -- outside your store to physically prevent customers from entering? I'm not necessarily advocating VIOLENCE toward customers, but I think it would make sense to have B&E-ish rights to protect your store.

coronavirus
Jan 27, 2020

by Cyrano4747

Philthy posted:

My wife and I are usually the only ones still wearing masks when we go into stores and take out.

Cept when we're driving around every motherfucker walking down the sidewalk, riding a bike, jogging .. all of them by themselves with no one around for miles has a mask on. Even people driving around in cars by themselves have masks on.

But in stores? Nobe.

I dont get the meme of "dummy idiot wearing a mask in their car". Is it not obvious why they leave it on? If you are running multiple errands or have to stop at pharmacy then grocery then post officer or whatever. You don't keep taking your mask on and off every time you get back to your car, making much more chances of infection. You leave it on the entire time you are out and about.

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Nah some people keep their mask on while they're driving home. I think they're avoiding touching the mask while they can't wash their hands but it might be any number of reasons.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

coronavirus posted:

I dont get the meme of "dummy idiot wearing a mask in their car". Is it not obvious why they leave it on? If you are running multiple errands or have to stop at pharmacy then grocery then post officer or whatever. You don't keep taking your mask on and off every time you get back to your car, making much more chances of infection. You leave it on the entire time you are out and about.

This is correct; the idea is that you put the mask on at home or other "clean place" and do not touch or gently caress around with it until you are again at home, or other "clean place". This includes the part where you drive the car to the parking lot of the store, if you need to fetch your car from a public place such as a communal garage or roadside not immediately in front of your house. If you take off the mask inside your car, you should have another clean mask to put on the next time you leave the car because you hosed around with the face-covering part and exposed the face-facing underside to the unclean environment. This at least with the real masks, the cloth ones are just glorified sneeze guards.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

coronavirus posted:

I dont get the meme of "dummy idiot wearing a mask in their car". Is it not obvious why they leave it on? If you are running multiple errands or have to stop at pharmacy then grocery then post officer or whatever. You don't keep taking your mask on and off every time you get back to your car, making much more chances of infection. You leave it on the entire time you are out and about.

I am unfamiliar with this logic posting from this SA user.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

Der Kyhe posted:

This is correct; the idea is that you put the mask on at home or other "clean place" and do not touch or gently caress around with it until you are again at home, or other "clean place". This includes the part where you drive the car to the parking lot of the store, if you need to fetch your car from a public place such as a communal garage or roadside not immediately in front of your house. If you take off the mask inside your car, you should have another clean mask to put on the next time you leave the car because you hosed around with the face-covering part and exposed the face-facing underside to the unclean environment. This at least with the real masks, the cloth ones are just glorified sneeze guards.

i keep a surgical mask hanging from my rearview and i put it on when i go in to a store or through a drive through. i sanitize my hands and take it off before i ever get out of the car. the car is the "clean place"

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

YeahTubaMike posted:

There are people, and there are customers. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck customers. Is it legal to have a rotation of guards -- or even vigilantes -- outside your store to physically prevent customers from entering? I'm not necessarily advocating VIOLENCE toward customers, but I think it would make sense to have B&E-ish rights to protect your store.

I often wonder how some people exist, like what kind of neurons are firing in their cranial cavity?

I worked a garden center for a little while, and it never failed, before it opened, I'd be setting up and you'd have people that would push through an emergency exit to get out there. Apparently the main door being locked, and big placards indicating that an alarm would sound if you went through the emergency exit were just a challenge.

poo poo would happen at close too. It's dark out and the lights are off, and someone would pull open the main door which was only powered off at that time, to try and buy mulch at 10:00 at night, all the signs indicate we closed at 8:00 :psyduck:

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

boar guy posted:

i keep a surgical mask hanging from my rearview and i put it on when i go in to a store or through a drive through. i sanitize my hands and take it off before i ever get out of the car. the car is the "clean place"

Your car is not a clean place and you have made that mask not be super effective

If you are thinking of the mask primarily as to help other people not get your breath on them, great, but properly donning PPE requires more cleanliness than your post describes

Crocoswine
Aug 20, 2010

At my job people will walk in wearing a mask and then immediately pull it down/off once they're in the store.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

rotinaj posted:

Your car is not a clean place and you have made that mask not be super effective

If you are thinking of the mask primarily as to help other people not get your breath on them, great, but properly donning PPE requires more cleanliness than your post describes

i'm not wearing it for me but i still dont get why the car isnt clean. i go from my house to my car. i drive to the store, i put on the mask. i wear it in the store and touch as little as possible. i get in the car, i sanitize my hands up to the wrists, i take off the mask and put it on the rearview where it's blasted by direct sunlight for 11+ hours a day

is the virus on my clothes or something

Polio Vax Scene
Apr 5, 2009



Burt Sexual posted:

I am unfamiliar with this logic posting from this SA user.

does forums cancer still exist and can it be applied to coronavirus so i can know which posts to not read without needing to check the username first

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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Crocoswine posted:

At my job people will walk in wearing a mask and then immediately pull it down/off once they're in the store.

The sign only says you have to have a mask to come in, nothing about having to wear it while inside. Checkmate. *cough* *splutter*.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

boar guy posted:


is the virus on my clothes or something

Yes, and if you brought your purchases inside the car then there also. Also if your AC filter is leaking or you keep your windows down that also makes it "not clean".

With "real PPE" the problem is the exposed inside of the mask; in any setting where these things are tracked (ABC contamination sites such as hospitals, chem labs or nuclear power plants) your mask would dive right into waste or decontamination bin just because you took it off somewhere "not specifically cleaned".

With cloth masks it really does not matter since that is just a sneeze guard to minimize your impact.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

boar guy posted:

i'm not wearing it for me but i still dont get why the car isnt clean. i go from my house to my car. i drive to the store, i put on the mask. i wear it in the store and touch as little as possible. i get in the car, i sanitize my hands up to the wrists, i take off the mask and put it on the rearview where it's blasted by direct sunlight for 11+ hours a day

is the virus on my clothes or something

Yes, the UV light is not working in the way you want it to be, and the virus would be getting on stuff that you are bringing into the car

Like the mask

I personally try to stay at home as much as I can but my work is not letting me stay home more, and I live with someone who works in a dialysis clinic and is regularly in contact with covid patients. I expect to get it during the next big wave, and leave a cloth mask on my dashboard specifically to wear to protect other people. I don't think there's any saving me, but I can try not to get others sick

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

rotinaj posted:

I don't think there's any saving me, but I can try not to get others sick

yeah my wife got ordered back to work and is in contact with a hundred people every day, some of whom have been confirmed as covid cases. i try to limit my trips out to one time a week but the mask isn't for me, i'm just trying to minimize the spread. if i had more risk factors i'd go back to not going out at all, which i did for the first 8 weeks of the lockdown. im suffering no delusions that my procedure will protect me, i just don't want to breathe on the poor drive through guy especially because everyone around here is mocking the mask signs and outright disregarding them. wearing this drat uncomfortable thing while im out is the least i can do

can't wait until youth soccer starts back up. reffing games in a mask is gonna be loving glorious

boar guy fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jun 12, 2020

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived
we've reached the part of the thread where every other post is "welp i'm pretty sure i was around someone infected, pray 4 mojo" :negative:

if any of you bite it, we will tell your story brave goon/ette

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope

Iron Crowned posted:

I often wonder how some people exist, like what kind of neurons are firing in their cranial cavity?

I worked a garden center for a little while, and it never failed, before it opened, I'd be setting up and you'd have people that would push through an emergency exit to get out there. Apparently the main door being locked, and big placards indicating that an alarm would sound if you went through the emergency exit were just a challenge.

poo poo would happen at close too. It's dark out and the lights are off, and someone would pull open the main door which was only powered off at that time, to try and buy mulch at 10:00 at night, all the signs indicate we closed at 8:00 :psyduck:

That sounds like a scene out of a zombie apocalypse movie. Why the hell are non-looters essentially trying to break into a loving garden center at all hours of the day and night???

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

YeahTubaMike posted:

That sounds like a scene out of a zombie apocalypse movie. Why the hell are non-looters essentially trying to break into a loving garden center at all hours of the day and night???

Hey, when you gotta grow you gotta grow?

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

rotinaj posted:

Yes, the UV light is not working in the way you want it to be, and the virus would be getting on stuff that you are bringing into the car

Like the mask

I personally try to stay at home as much as I can but my work is not letting me stay home more, and I live with someone who works in a dialysis clinic and is regularly in contact with covid patients. I expect to get it during the next big wave, and leave a cloth mask on my dashboard specifically to wear to protect other people. I don't think there's any saving me, but I can try not to get others sick

One should also factor in the possible heat within the car. It's been shown that CoV2 sterilization is possible at temperatures that the interior of a car will easily reach on a sunny day. It's not reliable, but it may have some effect.

astral
Apr 26, 2004

YeahTubaMike posted:

That sounds like a scene out of a zombie apocalypse movie. Why the hell are non-looters essentially trying to break into a loving garden center at all hours of the day and night???

"Hey did you know your door isn't working right? Anyway, I need this and that."

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

There Bias Two posted:

One should also factor in the possible heat within the car. It's been shown that CoV2 sterilization is possible at temperatures that the interior of a car will easily reach on a sunny day. It's not reliable, but it may have some effect.

Heat, drying out and UV will easily* do it in a sunny day on a car dashboard on timespan of several hours, yes. Not while driving from home to Walmart to post office to McDonalds to home, especially if you are blasting AC which had the HEPA filter changed last time during the Obama administration.

EDIT: *most likely

Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Jun 12, 2020

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

Der Kyhe posted:

Heat, drying out and UV will easily* do it in a sunny day on a car dashboard on timespan of several hours, yes. Not while driving from home to Walmart to post office to McDonalds to home.

EDIT: *most likely

i mean the car is parked with the windshield pointing in to the street in front of a garage door that gets too hot to touch for 6-8 hours a day due to direct sunlight. it's gonna have some effect, even if it's not a purpose built thing

it's weird how grossed out touching a PIN pad or entering the gate code to get in to our complex makes me feel, now. i also find myself sprinting to already opened doors so that i can catch them with my foot, and wrapping my shirt around my hands when i touch a crosswalk signal or cooler handle

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Der Kyhe posted:

Heat, drying out and UV will easily* do it in a sunny day on a car dashboard on timespan of several hours, yes. Not while driving from home to Walmart to post office to McDonalds to home, especially if you are blasting AC which had the HEPA filter changed last time during the Obama administration.

EDIT: *most likely

Look at this noob. Walmart and McDonalds is only one stop!!!

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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zer0spunk posted:

we've reached the part of the thread where every other post is "welp i'm pretty sure i was around someone infected, pray 4 mojo" :negative:

if any of you bite it, we will tell your story brave goon/ette

I'm still stunned as a person living in South Florida (still a hotspot) and from the UK, I actually haven't seen a single person among friends and family who has had it. One friend had virtually all the symptons though, but tested negative. I'm going to put that down as a false result though. Even still, 1? Very few people I know treated this as a hoax or overblown, and it shows that treating it seriously really makes the difference. Obviously you can be careful and get super unlucky, but still.

(Obviously a whole bunch could have been asymptomatic and not known, but in likelihood would've spread it and then posted that someone close to them had the 'rona, but I didn't see any of that either).

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

boar guy posted:

i mean the car is parked with the windshield pointing in to the street in front of a garage door that gets too hot to touch for 6-8 hours a day due to direct sunlight. it's gonna have some effect, even if it's not a purpose built thing

it's weird how grossed out touching a PIN pad or entering the gate code to get in to our complex makes me feel, now. i also find myself sprinting to already opened doors so that i can catch them with my foot, and wrapping my shirt around my hands when i touch a crosswalk signal or cooler handle

I edited my message but yeah, the dashboard UV and heat bombardment will probably be enough to dry it out for the first use next time tommorrow, but when you remove it, especially if you run an AC or bring anything from the store inside the car, you lose all purpose of that mask besides using it to protect others after the first place you visit.

I have a rotating stock of generic work gloves which I put on when I leave my house, and the next time I take them off is when I am back home, have unloaded my purchases, and can drop them into the laundry bin and wash my hands properly. Now that the weather got hot I switched to using one-time restaurant kitchen-graded plastic gloves which go to the trash bin.

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zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived

EL BROMANCE posted:

I'm still stunned as a person living in South Florida (still a hotspot) and from the UK, I actually haven't seen a single person among friends and family who has had it. One friend had virtually all the symptons though, but tested negative. I'm going to put that down as a false result though. Even still, 1? Very few people I know treated this as a hoax or overblown, and it shows that treating it seriously really makes the difference. Obviously you can be careful and get super unlucky, but still.

(Obviously a whole bunch could have been asymptomatic and not known, but in likelihood would've spread it and then posted that someone close to them had the 'rona, but I didn't see any of that either).

Not too shocking. I live in NYC, in april it was back to back ambulance sirens seven days a week. People took it seriously and now we're one of the few places trending downward hard. Killing 17,000+ people will do that.

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