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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:Why would the named ones go away In my game they die but I’m not a fast player
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Captain Beans posted:That 3k was the fastest selling game in the entire series? I assume they like money so I think they are ok with it 3K did insanely well in China, which I suspect is either on par with the US now or ahead of the US as the largest single PC games market (I think it still comes out behind “English speaking” as a whole). It’s the first western game I’ve seen to do Chinese localisation well, so they earned it.
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Jun 9, 2020 03:47
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Beamed posted:Asymmetric factions are vital for replayability, IMHO. I think I speak for everyone that 3K ruled a ton, but I also.. don't feel compelled to pick it back up very much. ad090 posted:In CA's defense they have tried to make fun made up units and/or anachronistic units, and all it usually gets them is poo poo thrown at them from all sides for not being "historically accurate", they get around this with 3K because they're following the book and not history. To be honest I don't blame them, some of the chuds over at TwC would probably storm their offices if they made to many "inaccurate" changes to a game. gently caress they get poo poo for WH2 for not being loreful enough sometimes. Beefeater1980 posted:3K did insanely well in China, which I suspect is either on par with the US now or ahead of the US as the largest single PC games market (I think it still comes out behind "English speaking" as a whole). It's the first western game I've seen to do Chinese localisation well, so they earned it.
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Jun 9, 2020 16:16
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Chortles posted:Tiger & Leopard Cavalry as a combined name instead of separate units I... what? I have literally never heard of T&L as being separate units. That was just their name.
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Jun 9, 2020 22:10
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3k Patch Beta hits today: https://www.totalwar.com/blog/total-war-three-kingdoms-patch-1-5-2/ It's pretty meaty too!
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Jun 10, 2020 18:29
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Jun 10, 2020 23:59
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Oh bitchin they used period armor, complete with bone helmet
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Jun 11, 2020 00:04
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Flipswitch posted:3k Patch Beta hits today: Thank god they're fixing that income glitch. I stopped playing my recent Ma Teng campaign because it annoyed me so much.
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Jun 11, 2020 00:52
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Anyone want the Yellow Turbans DLC? I accidentally bought a second copy.
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Jun 11, 2020 00:59
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Speaking of the Turbs, playing as He Yi is a different and refreshing experience. I dig the glass cannon peasant army and unique tech tree. I thought I was boned when Cao Cao came storming in after I took the southwest Han territory, but I managed to set up a successful ambush at the Runan-Yangzhou crossing. Lol get hosed Cao Cao, this is our neighborhood now. This game is growing on me.
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Jun 11, 2020 01:27
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Grand Fromage posted:Anyone want the Yellow Turbans DLC? I accidentally bought a second copy. sure pm me
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Jun 11, 2020 02:04
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:sure pm me Apparently since I tried to redeem it I can't actually gift it to anyone. Sorry, I didn't think to check that first.  I am going to see if they'll refund me or switch it to a gift.
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Jun 11, 2020 02:09
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Grand Fromage posted:Apparently since I tried to redeem it I can't actually gift it to anyone. Sorry, I didn't think to check that first. ah np, theoretically the code itself would still work right? if it does i can just paypal you or w/e works
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ad090 posted:Troy campaign map: So what's the deal here? 13 factions total and only 4 are Trojans?
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Jun 11, 2020 02:17
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TheHoosier posted:Speaking of the Turbs, playing as He Yi is a different and refreshing experience. I dig the glass cannon peasant army and unique tech tree. I thought I was boned when Cao Cao came storming in after I took the southwest Han territory, but I managed to set up a successful ambush at the Runan-Yangzhou crossing. Lol get hosed Cao Cao, this is our neighborhood now. Wish there was some more diplomacy options with Zhang Yan or the other Turban factions though!
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Jun 11, 2020 03:23
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Wow, Zheng Jiang's economy really does become ridiculous once you get a few tributaries under your belt, I'm making 200k a turn at this point. It's also a lot of fun to embrace her 194 start position, take no initial territory other than the Pengcheng temple and spend the first 60+ turns fighting as a one stack mercenary army. Ended up migrating to Taiwan with my immense stores of mercenary gold, formed the Great Bandit Army, and sailed out to conquer the south-west. Now the lands south of the Yangtze flourish, barely a walled city exists within the central plains and all the gold in China flows south in a vain attempt to stop me sailing out and sacking the north into the ground.
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Jun 11, 2020 06:08
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HannibalBarca posted:So what's the deal here? 13 factions total and only 4 are Trojans? They've announced 4 Trojan leaders, 4 Acheans and an Amazon DLC (presumably Penthesilea.) Maybe the other flags are minor states?
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Jun 11, 2020 10:21
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Realised last night that Liu Bei's Yi ranged units can fire on the move - it's pretty brutal to use. I like his cheap militia trait too - let me run two full stacks right near the start of the game which is great.
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Jun 12, 2020 09:07
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TheHoosier posted:Speaking of the Turbs, playing as He Yi is a different and refreshing experience. I dig the glass cannon peasant army and unique tech tree. I thought I was boned when Cao Cao came storming in after I took the southwest Han territory, but I managed to set up a successful ambush at the Runan-Yangzhou crossing. Lol get hosed Cao Cao, this is our neighborhood now. The one time I played He Yi I just abandoned my starting location and booked it to Taiwan, because I am a craven coward. But it worked out really well. Since then I greatly enjoyed playing two of the Zhang brothers (Zhang Bao, I think it is, instantly crashes every time I start a new campaign), and I've gotten better playing as the turbans, so I may try He Yi again and stick it out.
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Majorian posted:The one time I played He Yi I just abandoned my starting location and booked it to Taiwan, because I am a craven coward. But it worked out really well. Since then I greatly enjoyed playing two of the Zhang brothers (Zhang Bao, I think it is, instantly crashes every time I start a new campaign), and I've gotten better playing as the turbans, so I may try He Yi again and stick it out. I think i just got lucky that a few things fell my way. The decisive ambush against Cao Cao killed him and made them sue for peace, so I ended up with some land and an angry but subdued neighbor. I just try not get greedy and overextend. The only faction I've totally wiped out is Yan Baihu because he's a poo poo. I'm currently considering doing the same to Yuan Shu before he coalitions everyone around me. Everyone around me has stepped up at least once but never all at once, so again probably just luck
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Jun 12, 2020 13:05
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Some new artwork has popped up on the TW forums: Left to right it's: Agamemnon (???), Odysseus (Archer), Menelaus (???), Achilles (Fighter) -> Hector (Defender), Sarpedon (???), Paris (Archer), Aeneas (???). The four classes are fighter, defender, archer and warlord. So I'm guessing Agamemnon and Aeneas are warlords, Menelaus is a defender and Sarpedon is a fighter.
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Jun 12, 2020 13:31
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My He Yi campaign was abusing He Man's incredibly overpowered rear end to just laugh my way to ultimate victory. Being able to expand twice on turn one clearly wasn't intended.
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Jun 12, 2020 13:57
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God Yuan Shao is such a loving rear end in a top hat. Dude is down to literally two provinces just south of the Yellow River and has been for the past ten years, but somehow the Duchy of Yan and Liu Zhang, with a dozen provinces each, are still completely and utterly loyal to him and unleash hordes whenever he decides someone looks at him funny. What's more, I'm pretty convinced that he literally seeks out and forms coalitions with whoever I, specifically, am at war with so they can call him in as an ally even though I bought him off with a nonaggression pact. gently caress this goddamn guy. Now I see why Cao Cao hated his guts so much. 
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:Some new artwork has popped up on the TW forums: Where's my Diomedes and Troilus
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Jun 12, 2020 18:53
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ninjahedgehog posted:gently caress this goddamn guy. Now I see why Cao Cao hated his guts so much. This is what I love about the game, first TW game where I absolutely loathe certain characters based on gameplay.
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Jun 12, 2020 18:59
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Is menalaus the guy who gets cuckolded by Paris? Definite first pick Probably time to finish reading that war nerds iliad to get hype, but it becomes a lot of "then they fight again"
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Jun 12, 2020 19:06
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Zhang Yan has stolen the Emperor and he's hiding out in the mountains, anyone who goes up there loses their stack to ambushes, lol.
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Communist Thoughts posted:Is menalaus the guy who gets cuckolded by Paris? Definite first pick It's actually a good book, if you approach it like Gilgamesh or some other ancient text. It's not a story. It's a recount of various mythologized fights. I don't even think the Paris stuff is in the Iliad, although it's been a minute since I looked at it. It's basically just a series of descriptive duels, interspersed with Greek mythology in the sense of the gods arguing about who deserves to win the battles.
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litany of gulps posted:It's actually a good book, if you approach it like Gilgamesh or some other ancient text. It's not a story. It's a recount of various mythologized fights. I don't even think the Paris stuff is in the Iliad, although it's been a minute since I looked at it. It's basically just a series of descriptive duels, interspersed with Greek mythology in the sense of the gods arguing about who deserves to win the battles. and occasionally boulders get thrown.
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Communist Thoughts posted:Is menalaus the guy who gets cuckolded by Paris? Definite first pick Yup, that's him all right. litany of gulps posted:It's actually a good book, if you approach it like Gilgamesh or some other ancient text. It's not a story. It's a recount of various mythologized fights. I don't even think the Paris stuff is in the Iliad, although it's been a minute since I looked at it. It's basically just a series of descriptive duels, interspersed with Greek mythology in the sense of the gods arguing about who deserves to win the battles. Yeah there's a lot that's not in The Iliad, because Homer had composed it as part of a much longer cycle of epic poems, and most of those were lost in the ensuing centuries. So there's no Trojan horse, there's no Paris fatally wounding Achilles in the heel, there's no fall of Troy, etc. We get allusions to that stuff in The Odyssey, but that's really it. From what I understand, part of the reason why there's so much repetition in Homer was so that the mostly-illiterate troubadours who were reciting these absurdly long pieces could easily memorize them. That's why you get those weird, long refrains about funerary sacrifices over and over again, making "an odor pleasing to the nostrils of Zeus," for example.
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Vichan posted:This is what I love about the game, first TW game where I absolutely loathe certain characters based on gameplay. Liu Bei!
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Vichan posted:This is what I love about the game, first TW game where I absolutely loathe certain characters based on gameplay. The one I hate the most, oddly enough, is Liu Zhang. Dude's supposed to be a pacifist/appeaser, yet in every campaign I play, he's a belligerent little fucker. And I tend to play factions on the other side of the map from him - yet almost every game, there's a moment where he declares war on me and then just doesn't send in troops or anything.
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Majorian posted:The one I hate the most, oddly enough, is Liu Zhang. Dude's supposed to be a pacifist/appeaser, yet in every campaign I play, he's a belligerent little fucker. And I tend to play factions on the other side of the map from him - yet almost every game, there's a moment where he declares war on me and then just doesn't send in troops or anything. It's a testament to 3K's campaign that this is noticeable and not just the default state of the AI
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:It's a testament to 3K's campaign that this is noticeable and not just the default state of the AI That's true, although I find it particularly annoying that it's him, for whatever reason. Probably just that I find his smug portrait so drat punchable!
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He has the hilarious combination of Paranoid but Defensive. You'd think that'd mean he'd just avoid any form of deals with the player, but instead he just can't help but declare wars he then doesn't participate in  Sun Ce's another belligerent warmonger, although he'll just go all-out attack you. If he ever declares war on me I make sure to wipe him out, otherwise he will come back for rounds two/three/etc. Blooming Brilliant fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Jun 12, 2020 |
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Liu Biao is mine, fucker just constantly badgering me with Co-Operating with him or Yuan Shou just demanding to be his vassal or going to war with me. Prick. E: Is it actually possible to recruit Lu Bu into a faction and not have him betray you? he seems ridiculously hard to control, which is fitting I suppose! Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Jun 13, 2020 |
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Jun 13, 2020 00:05
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Give him a title immediately, or just make him your heir.
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I promoted him to Blood General and that seems to have sated him for now, playing Liu Bei helps as I can rack so many positive modifiers it's kept him happy. Now to fire him at someone and watch the sparks fly.
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Majorian posted:From what I understand, part of the reason why there's so much repetition in Homer was so that the mostly-illiterate troubadours who were reciting these absurdly long pieces could easily memorize them. That's why you get those weird, long refrains about funerary sacrifices over and over again, making "an odor pleasing to the nostrils of Zeus," for example. Get outta here (across the wine-dark sea).
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Beefeater1980 posted:Get outta here (across the wine-dark sea). One of my favorite weird tidbits about Homer are the crazy theories as to why he describes the sea that way. Were Greeks in Homer's time all color-blind? (hint: probably not, but who knows?!)
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