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Such Fun posted:In my anecdotal experience many anglos love to fawn over points that they believe make English exceptional. And all of them only spoke English. Not super ancient history since the episodes tend to go back like 200 odd years at most, but there's The Dollop, a podcast about American (usually) history. Well worth powering through the couple minutes of ads at the start of an episode. I reccomend the New York to Paris Car Race as a starter. https://soundcloud.com/the-dollop/323-1908-new-york-to-paris-car
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Such Fun posted:I didn’t mean podcasts specifically about the ruin of civilisations. Rather podcasts, or youtube-available documentaries or what have you, about ancient history, on the same level: accessible for the layman but also with a bit of depth. In addition to the ones that have already mentioned, I'd recommend the age of napoleon and inward empire (which is American history). Inward empire is episodic in the same way as fall of civilizations, whereas Napoleon is more or less a straight narrative. meefistopheles has a new favorite as of 14:15 on Jun 11, 2020 |
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Not World History, but 'About Buildings and Cities' is one of my favourite podcasts. It's very in depth whilst being very accessible to non-architects and it has lots of episodes on historical architects and architectural movements. They also reviewed The Fountainhead one time and made fun of all the architecture stuff in it.
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The Ancient world podcast is pretty good, especially the series on the seleucids. Wonders of the world for historical background of various UNESCO-worthy places. BBCs history extra podcast has good episodes. The recent “History of Persia” is self-explanatory. The partial historians has some interesting discussions between the two kiwi lady historian hosts and occasional guests, mainly Ancient Rome. Totalus rankium (for Roman emperors) and the Rex factor (for kings of British isles) is more lighthearted and comedic assessments of different rulers. History of Byzantium is the eastern version of History of Rome podcast. And the more academic “Byzantium and friends” with interviews of scholars exploring different aspects of the ERE. The history of Egypt is also pretty explanatory and great for an outline of the long history of ancient Egypt. Lions led by donkeys - Military history albeit with a more comedic tone. New books in history - Author interviews of the topics of their published book in their field, very academic but episodes that covers ones topic of interest are worth a listen. The medieval podcast - title explains itself, host is a medieval historian and often has other guests concerning the topic at hand. Tides of history - by the guy who made fall of Rome podcast. When diplomacy fails - Great for the diplomatic background of famous conflicts and developments in history. Revolutions podcast - long series on various revolutions, by the same guy behind history of Rome podcast. Antiquitas- ancient history podcast with a classicist host. Haven’t actually got around to listen to any episodes yet but seems interesting enough. The history of Ancient Greece - Only listened to a few special guest episodes so far, especially enjoyed the two episodes with the historian who goes by Iphrikates on AskHistorians as a guest, as he represents a newer historiography of the period which has changed a lot last 3 decades. Otherwise regular episodes are in chronological order much like history of Rome. And I second the podcasts already mentioned, in particular Inward empire.
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Three things that didn't actually happen: The Fall of Rome The Extinction of Dinosaurs The Great Video Game Crash (Adelaide Crapsey. Triad.)
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Never heard of the great videogame crash. Fall of Rome is debatable but im with you on the dinosaurs (still a mass-extinction event for dinosaurs and others though).
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Three things that didn't actually happen: Thinking of a universe where all of these three names describe the same event
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Falukorv posted:Never heard of the great videogame crash. Fall of Rome is debatable but im with you on the dinosaurs (still a mass-extinction event for dinosaurs and others though). A couple of badly-managed American companies failed and somehow that was meaningful even though about 100% of the world's game market did just fine.
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System Metternich posted:Thinking of a universe where all of these three names describe the same event These were all important events in the denouement and aftermath of the Finno-Korean Hyper War.
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System Metternich posted:Thinking of a universe where all of these three names describe the same event Well, "video" means to see and Rome had games which people came to see. Ergo, the Colosseum is a game console.
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It means "I see" videre is the infinitive
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Falukorv posted:Never heard of the great videogame crash. Fall of Rome is debatable but im with you on the dinosaurs (still a mass-extinction event for dinosaurs and others though). Atari was putting out games with no thought for quality assurance, and people ended up being like "This is trash, gently caress video games." E.T. the Extraterrestrial is the most notorious of these flops. This led to Nintendo promoting its "Seal Of Quality" feature on games not only produced in-house, but also from third parties. And nowadays we have AAA rated titles from companies worth billions. But for a while in the 80's, the world came very close to just scrubbing video games altogether.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:A couple of badly-managed American companies failed and somehow that was meaningful even though about 100% of the world's game market did just fine. I don't think "a couple badly managed companies failing" really captures industry revenues crashing by 97% over two years. IIRC total revenue in the gaming industry worldwide didn't return to 1983 levels until sometime in the early/mid 90s. The whole reason Nintendo called the NES an "entertainment system" and packaged it with the R.O.B. peripheral was because branding it a video game console would have had retailers refusing to stock it. Mr Luxury Yacht has a new favorite as of 22:31 on Jun 12, 2020 |
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Jun 12, 2020 22:27
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:IIRC total revenue in the gaming industry worldwide didn't return to 1983 levels until sometime in the early/mid 90s. I highly doubt there is even proper data about this.
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So now we are pretending the great video game crash isn’t real
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True it's hard to tell how many video games really got sold in the 80s because like porn you ordered them out the back of a magazine and they were mailed to you in a manilla envelope. Nobody wanted to be caught playing a computer game. A better time with better people.
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CharlestheHammer posted:So now we are pretending the great video game crash isn’t real I mean it was real in the USA. But I am not sure it was as "real" in other places that were producing video games.
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It seems as though there would have still been games on computers, and the NES was a repackaging of a console they made for Japan. I assume the Atari crash did not happen in America, so the US would have just been a benighted wasteland for vidcon entertainment, much like Europe was. Video games would certainly look very different now but I imagine the concept would still be around.
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ITT people who think companies in the 80s never tracked revenue. To clarify the 97% drop was revenue from home consoles/games. Arcades got slammed hard but weathered things a bit better. Japan obviously managed to make the best of it with the industry basically shifting there but there was still an "Atari Shock". But outside of that? You can't really understate just how dominant the Atari 2600 was and how critical US sales were to Atari. It sold 26 million consoles in it's lifespan, based on what I've seen like 60-70% of that was in the US. The next two most popular consoles in the early 80s , the Colecovision and Intellivison, sold 6 million and 3 million respectively. When Atari crashed what was like, Europe buying in 1985? Not the Master System or NES because those weren't launching there for a year or two. Mr Luxury Yacht has a new favorite as of 23:59 on Jun 12, 2020 |
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Jun 12, 2020 23:35
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3D Megadoodoo posted:I highly doubt there is even proper data about this. https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Video_game_industry Scroll to the chart at the bottom. The industry hit its first peak in 1981 and didn't hit those numbers again until 1992.
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CharlestheHammer posted:So now we are pretending the great video game crash isn’t real would you say facts don't care about your feelings
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Milo and POTUS posted:would you say facts don't care about your feelings Nah just remember this thread isn’t actually great at getting historical facts Like the fact a couple months ago people were insistent that the throwing pilla bending was an accident despite historical consensus being not only was it done on purpose but Marius specifically introduced it. So what I’m saying is take everything said in here with a giant grain of salt
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Like the giant grain of salt used to pay legionaries?
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Generally soldiers were payed in cash outside a brief period during the tetraarchy where they were payed in goods but basic necessities like boots and tunics and even food itself do the rampant inflation of the period
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The Mighty Moltres posted:Atari was putting out games with no thought for quality assurance, and people ended up being like "This is trash, gently caress video games." Years ago when I was working retail I sold shoes to an old dude who worked at Atari back on the day and was present at the landfill when the zillion copies of E.T. were famously interred. It was perhaps the only time being extremely online ever did anything good for me in my life.
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CharlestheHammer posted:do the rampant inflation of the period Quit making up dumb dances
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JesustheDarkLord posted:Quit making up dumb dances Wrong charles. You're thinking of 
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Milo and POTUS posted:Wrong charles. You're thinking of Who here wouldn't support a tv show about the early rise of the von Habsburgs, from scheming austrian dukes and vaguely important to emperors of half the world, starring Charles Dance as Friedrich III and beginning with Albert the Magnanimous Presumably end it with Charles V Edgar Allen Ho has a new favorite as of 02:28 on Jun 13, 2020 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Who here wouldn't support a tv show about the early rise of the von Habsburgs, from scheming austrian dukes and vaguely important to emperors of half the world, starring Charles Dance as Friedrich III and beginning with Albert the Magnanimous That would be fun, the Charles II of Spain episode would be just pure black comedy
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The old story goes that the NES when being first sold in America was bundled with the Zapper and ROB to be pitched as an 'entertainment system' with a toy robot that just so happened to include a little thing called Super Mario Bros, since console video games had a reputation in the toilet. The way I heard it, E.T wasn't the only overhyped overmarketed clunker that got everyone to realise there weren't really any good Atari games, but a disastrous bug-filled port of Pac-Man came out around the same time. Can imagine that if they even managed to gently caress up Pac-Man, people may figure home consoles are a mug's game and stick to arcades. Though it does seem like game consoles of that era were a lot more regionalised than they are today, not even counting Japan. And would explain why western development mostly switched to PC, and took a different route using systems that increasingly everyone owned for reasons other than games.
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it was real enough that nintendo still keeps absurdly large amounts of cash on hand in order to ensure that if there's another black swan crash they can weather it ironically covid is an actual black swan event, sinking shitloads of companies, but Nintendo is one of the few ones that's making money hand over fist
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I think that's also because Nintendo's learned the hard way the home console business can be very feast-or-famine, going from the Wii to the Wii U and all. They're also like, the only game company that actually keeps and cultivates talent, it seems. Like, almost everyone in the credits of Mario 64 still works at the company, and the others have usually retired or died.
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Tunicate posted:it was real enough that nintendo still keeps absurdly large amounts of cash on hand in order to ensure that if there's another black swan crash they can weather it
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Americans also always forget that in Europe the cheap home computer was king. Nintendo and Sega became more of a thing as the 1990s rolled around, but for a good while in the 1980s it was Commodore 64 and then Amiga all the way. (Brits had their Spectrums and whatnot.)
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I'm loosely aware there's still holdout Amiga diehards. Apparently Amiga tried to release a console in the 32 bit era and went bankrupt after six months.
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On the topic of Atari, one of the games for the 2600, a game called Entombed apparently uses a process for designing it's mazes procedurally in a manner that ensures that it's a solvable maze, the thing is no one has been able to figure out how it works for a very simple reason, the guy who programmed it was drunk while doing it, apparently solving programming problems while intoxicated in ways that are brilliant yet indecipherable afterwards is a surprisingly common thing
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Also watched a video on Sega's actions during the dawn of the 32 bit era and it's a mesmerising cavalcade of all the worst possible decisions imaginable. Like, while Nintendo did some fuckups, they seem to be maybe the only company that handled the change from 2D to 3D gracefullly. Maybe helped they still had 2D games on their portables?
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:When Atari crashed what was like, Europe buying in 1985? Not the Master System or NES because those weren't launching there for a year or two. 8-bit computers like the ZX Spectrum , Amstrad CPC, and Commodore 64 (probably in that order popularity-wise), plus some more obscure platforms that were only really popular in certain countries (MSX in the Netherlands, Oric in France). Consoles were a much smaller part of the market compared to the US and didn't overtake computer sales until the SNES/Megadrive era. Sweevo has a new favorite as of 10:57 on Jun 13, 2020 |
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drrockso20 posted:On the topic of Atari, one of the games for the 2600, a game called Entombed apparently uses a process for designing it's mazes procedurally in a manner that ensures that it's a solvable maze, the thing is no one has been able to figure out how it works for a very simple reason, the guy who programmed it was drunk while doing it, apparently solving programming problems while intoxicated in ways that are brilliant yet indecipherable afterwards is a surprisingly common thing There is a paper about it here. https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1811/1811.02035.pdf
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RichardA posted:There is a paper about it here. https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1811/1811.02035.pdf Sounds like the Ballmer Peak before it was officially named.
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