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Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Japan has resumed regular package transit with the United States this morning.

China is an enemy of the United States and we will no longer be conducting mail nor commerce with individuals

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AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

In Training posted:

I had it and I'm fine. not really what you want to hear I guess and there's still a couple decades for me to randomly collapse into a puddle of lung fluid like a failed animorph

No, I want to hear this. This is not the first story I heard about people coming out of this with permanent damage. However it’s usually followed by something like “Average age of sample size: 56” or something. So many CT scans and no one is TALKING to these people?


Bloody Hedgehog posted:

I don't know, a girl might want to still touch your penis sometime in the future. Maybe.

Stranger things have happened. Technically.

I don’t even care about that anymore.

AceOfFlames has issued a correction as of 00:03 on Jun 14, 2020

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

Google Butt posted:

anyone setup their CDC recommended gloryhole yet?

Just waiting for my german-engineered hole flanges to arrive, then I'll be machining out some motorized access hatches. The coin-mechs have already been wired as well, so the whole things should be up and running within the week.


AceOfFlames posted:

No, I want to hear this. This is not the first story I heard about people coming out of this with permanent damage. However it’s usually followed by something like “Average age of sample size: 56” or something. So many CT scans and no one is TALKING to these people?


I don’t even care about that anymore.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

AceOfFlames posted:

Here’s the thing: if this virus does apparently cause permanent damage, where are all the testimonies? The articles like “COVID Has Ruined My Health” etc? Almost 8 million infected worldwide and no one can give accounts of what it’s like to recover? gently caress, how is Tom Hanks doing? Anyone checked up on him?

I don’t mean to go all denialist, I am just trying to figure out this insane situation. Are we supposed to stay inside forever? Are people without partners or roommates like me doomed to be alone for the rest of their lives or face a disease that doesn’t even kill them but makes their lives so much worse? That’s a version of hell even I never conceived of.

have you not seen the chronic COVID people yet? Some people I follow on twitter say they've got/recovered from it but still have symptoms. I don't know if it's real or a stress thing. Probably real because we're in hell world

https://twitter.com/alfonslopeztena/status/1269649164146823170?s=20
https://twitter.com/QuickTake/status/1270649435069059084?s=20

kater
Nov 16, 2010

AceOfFlames posted:

No, I want to hear this. This is not the first story I heard about people coming out of this with permanent damage. However it’s usually followed by something like “Average age of sample size: 56” or something. So many CT scans and no one is TALKING to these people?


I don’t even care about that anymore.

there have been quite a few I had covid two months ago and still feel like poo poo articles it’s just no one cares anymore so they only got made in like a two week period in May

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Brain fog

rump buttman
Feb 14, 2018

I just wish I had time for one more bowl of chili



Google Butt posted:

anyone setup their CDC recommended gloryhole yet?

who’s got two thumbs and about to give Kum & Go a run for their money?

this guy (doing that double thumbs up point at self move)

MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020

by Athanatos

Atrocious Joe posted:

have you not seen the chronic COVID people yet? Some people I follow on twitter say they've got/recovered from it but still have symptoms. I don't know if it's real or a stress thing. Probably real because we're in hell world

https://twitter.com/alfonslopeztena/status/1269649164146823170?s=20
https://twitter.com/QuickTake/status/1270649435069059084?s=20

Can't all of those symptoms be explained with "your lungs are damaged no longer absorb enough oxygen"?

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008





this is literally gonna kill some kids and somewhere along the way they decided on acceptable casualties in order to keep number

seattle plague rat
Apr 6, 2020

AceOfFlames posted:

No, I want to hear this. This is not the first story I heard about people coming out of this with permanent damage. However it’s usually followed by something like “Average age of sample size: 56” or something. So many CT scans and no one is TALKING to these people?

i got it at the end of march, back on my feet by mid-april

i got winded a little easier for like 2 weeks after symptoms disappeared & was fine by may 1

Giga Gaia
May 2, 2006

360 kickflip to... Meteo?!

very presidential

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Atrocious Joe posted:

have you not seen the chronic COVID people yet? Some people I follow on twitter say they've got/recovered from it but still have symptoms. I don't know if it's real or a stress thing. Probably real because we're in hell world

https://twitter.com/alfonslopeztena/status/1269649164146823170?s=20
https://twitter.com/QuickTake/status/1270649435069059084?s=20

I already spend most of my days having no energy to do anything. If I get this I’m hosed. And yet if I stay home, I don’t exercise and am also hosed.

I am 32 though and these people seem to be quite older.

seattle plague rat
Apr 6, 2020
but it still sucks, feels like someone sitting on ur chest for awhile & i had crazy nerve pain & tingles

kater
Nov 16, 2010

loving lol at giving an entire country fibromyalgia cuz you were so concerned about the economy

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

I've shifted to worrying that apparently my balls are now a ticking time bomb.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

kater posted:

loving lol at giving an entire country fibromyalgia cuz you were so concerned about the economy


Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Meat Miracle posted:

Not having read the study at all I suspect the lower levels measured from cotton (and cardboard, etc) are at least partly due to porous natural fibres being a bit difficult to efficiently extract nucleic acids from compared to the other materials. Cotton in particular is great at capturing nucleic acids (hence its frequent use for collection swabs) but tends to be reluctant to release them into solution (which is why swabs used for some high sensitivity testing have moved to specialised synthetic materials).

In general non-porous materials like metal or plastic are easy to sample from, so give a more "honest" measure. Cottons not useless as PPE, but I doubt its +4 to COVID slaying.

Isn't grabbing all the particles and never letting them go exactly what you want in your PPE tho? You don't want virions trapped in your mask working their way free under the pressure of your breath going back and forth through the fabric. No, you want those suckers stuck fast until you come in for the kill with soap and water.

It doesn't matter how many virions are still viable if they can't escape the cotton.

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

Mind mist

Solarin
Nov 15, 2007

seattle plague rat posted:

talk of the villages is a surprisingly boring &well moderated forum

the offsites are definitely where all the real greasy poo poo happens

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010


av/post combo

EIDE Van Hagar
Dec 8, 2000

Beep Boop

MorrisBae posted:

Can't all of those symptoms be explained with "your lungs are damaged no longer absorb enough oxygen"?

yeah but if it is scarring it doesn’t just go away.

it happens with normal pneumonia too, but this is severe. people who used to do distance running complaining they can’t get out of bed.

here’s an article from back in May:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/10/world/europe/coronavirus-italy-recovery.html?referringSource=articleShare

Malcolm XML
Aug 8, 2009

I always knew it would end like this.

well it seems like everywhere that's not nyc should brace for nyc tier covid


nyc has been defacto open for a while now anyhow

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Nonsense posted:

Japan has resumed regular package transit with the United States this morning.

that's actually nice. my company is Japanese owned and it's been a pain in the butt shipping parts lately.

Jon Irenicus
Apr 23, 2008


YO ASSHOLE

I cast "brain fog" on America

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Malcolm XML posted:

well it seems like everywhere that's not nyc should brace for nyc tier covid


nyc has been defacto open for a while now anyhow

or at least NYC was open from 6am to 8pm. then the nightly NYPD riot began

Pooky
Aug 29, 2004

I post fox news so u don't have to 💋

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




AceOfFlames posted:

To add to this, I'm sorry if this makes me look like a naive idiot, but it just boggles me how people have previously been so wrong or OUTRIGHT LIED about the masks. My problem with this is who the gently caress are we supposed to trust? I don't want to be one of those people who "follows their gut". My gut is non-existent. Authority is the only reference I have. Multiple sources are how I determine what is real. How the gently caress does anyone deal with this? How do you know what is real if you have multiple contradictory sources of information and everyone has an agenda? How do you LIVE? Going to war on false pretense is one thing but manipulating science? How do you stop yourself from turning into an equivalent of a flat earther?

In official statements most health authorities used the weasel words "no evidence". "No evidence it prevents transmission" because of course there had been no studies specifically about masks and covid yet. I'm calling it weasel words because they would often go onto say things about how their gut says it could even be bad because people fiddle with their masks, not bothering to mention there's no evidence for that hypothesis either.

As for who to trust, look up which places have had good results. See what their health authorities said and did to get those good results. Still not perfect though, like Russia was posting great number for a long while just by lieing and occasionally defenestrating doctors, but you definitely should not try to cure covid by pushing doctors out windows. There is no evidence that sacrifices to the god of window glazing cures disease.

But Rocks Hurt Head
Jun 30, 2003

by Hand Knit
Pillbug
https://twitter.com/markknoller/status/1271941749020246016?s=20

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
gently caress my dad had whooping cough when he was a kid and he's always had a lingering cough after getting a cold, and now that he got covid (in the hospital) i'm very worried.

it's been about a month though and his energy isn't too bad considering he broke his hip, and shattered his wrist and elbow so hopefully he had some luck finally

Plank Walker
Aug 11, 2005
lmao if covid 19 gives the world chronic "brain fog" holy poo poo hahaha like imagine the events of the past 4 years in an even stupider world

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

kater posted:

loving lol at giving an entire country fibromyalgia cuz you were so concerned about the economy

they couldnt poison zoomers with lead so they chose the next best thing

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

Plank Walker posted:

lmao if covid 19 gives the world chronic "brain fog" holy poo poo hahaha like imagine the events of the past 4 years in an even stupider world

this is peak leadbrain so things will probably remain about as stupid. but also with chronic disasters.

snake and bake
Feb 23, 2005

:theroni:

AceOfFlames posted:

Here’s the thing: if this virus does apparently cause permanent damage, where are all the testimonies? The articles like “COVID Has Ruined My Health” etc? Almost 8 million infected worldwide and no one can give accounts of what it’s like to recover? gently caress, how is Tom Hanks doing? Anyone checked up on him?

I don’t mean to go all denialist, I am just trying to figure out this insane situation. Are we supposed to stay inside forever? Are people without partners or roommates like me doomed to be alone for the rest of their lives or face a disease that doesn’t even kill them but makes their lives so much worse? That’s a version of hell even I never conceived of.

Reddit has tons of testimonies already in this AskReddit thread, plus an entire subreddit just for covid survivors to describe their experiences.

But Rocks Hurt Head
Jun 30, 2003

by Hand Knit
Pillbug
Chronic roni seems a lot like chronic Lyme :thunk:

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology


so apparently the way the my province counts covid cases is changing, and this conveniently translates into lower Number, and that lower number has been, since day one, what we used as a benchmark to open er up

i got a message from my boss today that basically said it's a 50-50 if i get called back in the first phase of employee reinstatements

on one hand AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH but on the other hand CERB is gonna run out soon and if i don't want to sleep in a tent i don't have much of a choice

post COVID
Mar 5, 2007

free college, free healthcare, free Shmurda


Malcolm XML posted:

well it seems like everywhere that's not nyc should brace for nyc tier covid


nyc has been defacto open for a while now anyhow

MA had its peak April 4 with 197 deaths and on June 10 there were 33 deaths. interstate travel is gonna wreak havoc, but my beans and i are prepared for a 2nd peak, and each subsequent peak until the hastily produced mandatory vaccine renders me incapable of eating beans.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



a live without beans is a life not worth living

Malcolm XML
Aug 8, 2009

I always knew it would end like this.

Slippery Nipple posted:

MA had its peak April 4 with 197 deaths and on June 10 there were 33 deaths. interstate travel is gonna wreak havoc, but my beans and i are prepared for a 2nd peak, and each subsequent peak until the hastily produced mandatory vaccine renders me incapable of eating beans.

bean vaccine

Malcolm XML
Aug 8, 2009

I always knew it would end like this.

But Rocks Hurt Head posted:

Chronic roni seems a lot like chronic Lyme :thunk:

yeah unless ur lungs are full of scar tissue and such its probs post-viral fatigue

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Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006
gently caress.

there was a day period in early April where I woke up with night sweats, had a cough and felt incredibly lethargic during the day.

that’s ended, but I notice that ever since then I get winded over the simplest loving things...having trouble catching my breath etc.

makes me think

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