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Hustle-grinding hard enough (asking Joyce for cash) to pay my own hotel bill on the first night was one of my prouder moments.
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RudeCat posted:I felt so drat bad about those hubcaps. Aren't those "commandeered" hubcaps? Like, they were never his in the first place.
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Jun 15, 2020 00:39
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Use the kind green ape pen! You monsters!!!
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RudeCat posted:I felt so drat bad about those hubcaps. Those hubcaps turned my entire game around. I had been dead set on being a terrible disaster of a cop and stealing the boots and generally being awful, and then Kim sold his hubcaps to pay my bill and told me "You did a good job" during the briefing at the end of the first day. I went down after he went to bed to steal the boots and then I just stood there in front of the freezer and decided that I just couldn't do it to him, and after that I did my absolute best not to be a miserable trash fire of a human being because I couldn't let Kim down like that.
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Yeah, that's really close to my experience as well, the entire sequence is incredible even if, as mentioned, the hubcaps are "confiscated".
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Fister Roboto posted:Use the kind green ape pen! You monsters!!! not an empty quote
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Khizan posted:Those hubcaps turned my entire game around. I had been dead set on being a terrible disaster of a cop and stealing the boots and generally being awful, and then Kim sold his hubcaps to pay my bill and told me "You did a good job" during the briefing at the end of the first day. I went down after he went to bed to steal the boots and then I just stood there in front of the freezer and decided that I just couldn't do it to him, and after that I did my absolute best not to be a miserable trash fire of a human being because I couldn't let Kim down like that. I had to trudge down and sell them at like 12:30am because I'd just cut the drat body down and done an autopsy, then the hotel key wouldn't work. I didn't enjoy this game when I got it but I played the full first day today and enjoyed it a lot. I think starting again with Inland Empire is making a difference as I feel like I'm playing a down and out Agent Cooper much more than a patently destitute loser. E: I hate 2d6 still, but what are you going to do. I did three >80% rolls and three <10% rolls, failed all the high chance and passed the low. Was very impressed when I had a 7% chance to approach the stinky body and pulled it off. JBP fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Jun 15, 2020 |
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I do like that they have the shop open all night for a reason; that the shopkeeper is on an insomnia-causing drug. Pyrholidon is interesting, seems implied to be something similar to LSD in effects?
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Khizan posted:Those hubcaps turned my entire game around. I had been dead set on being a terrible disaster of a cop and stealing the boots and generally being awful, and then Kim sold his hubcaps to pay my bill and told me "You did a good job" during the briefing at the end of the first day. I went down after he went to bed to steal the boots and then I just stood there in front of the freezer and decided that I just couldn't do it to him, and after that I did my absolute best not to be a miserable trash fire of a human being because I couldn't let Kim down like that. I paid my own bill AND got the boots so maybe if you weren't a piece of poo poo you and Kim could both have nice things 
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I do like that they have the shop open all night for a reason; that the shopkeeper is on an insomnia-causing drug. It's based on Soviet anti-radiation drugs  So if you can dig up any info on what those were like, you'd probably know
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I remember ZA\UM posting a thing advertising the Guerrilla Gaming Convention or whatever it's called. Have they announced anything yet? I need more new Disco Hotness.
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Fister Roboto posted:Use the kind green ape pen! You monsters!!!
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chaosapiant posted:I remember ZA\UM posting a thing advertising the Guerrilla Gaming Convention or whatever it's called. Have they announced anything yet? I need more new Disco Hotness. They announced Disco Elysium coming to the Epic Game Store lol
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chaosapiant posted:I remember ZA\UM posting a thing advertising the Guerrilla Gaming Convention or whatever it's called. Have they announced anything yet? I need more new Disco Hotness. A new trailer for Epic Store: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrz-T1pJfcs
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Played the demo for that disco-like that got reccomend upthread, Clam Man 2. It's very much wearing its influences on its sleve, and while it doesn't nail the heights of DE it still manages to be pretty charming. I'll probably buy the whole game when it comes out, and I'm very much excited for more games coming out that take their cues from DE.
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Tylana posted:Kim is just so wonderfully done and balanced. I can forgive not getting to roll with Lena if the trade-off is that much polish on the one party member. I just finished my first playthrough, so I've been diving into spoilers and alternative paths more freely. Was kinda mind-blown learning that you can end up doing the entire final island sequence with Cuno as your partner instead of Kim, which... obviously doesn't go as well. But like who tf would make the kind of choices leading to that?? Kim owns.
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Brosnan posted:I just finished my first playthrough, so I've been diving into spoilers and alternative paths more freely. Was kinda mind-blown learning that you can end up doing the entire final island sequence with Cuno as your partner instead of Kim, which... obviously doesn't go as well. But like who tf would make the kind of choices leading to that?? Kim owns. If you want Kim to not be shot you have to pass a skill check
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Brosnan posted:I just finished my first playthrough, so I've been diving into spoilers and alternative paths more freely. Was kinda mind-blown learning that you can end up doing the entire final island sequence with Cuno as your partner instead of Kim, which... obviously doesn't go as well. But like who tf would make the kind of choices leading to that?? Kim owns. I always feel like I'm playing this game wrong and missing things.
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that happened to me and it was awesome. kim survives anyway. ain't gonna savescum a lovely authority roll like a COWARD
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I was completely unprepared for the Tribunal. Didn't get my gun back, didn't have any T-500 armor, didn't have the Spirit Bomb, and while I did have "Kim *really* trusts you", my authority score was so low it didn't matter. The merc leader survived, and I got everyone but two of the Hardy Boys killed. It was extremely not disco.
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the most important part is what you chose to say when you're shot and bleeding out that was definitely the emotional climax of the scene for me.
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JustaDamnFool posted:Played the demo for that disco-like that got reccomend upthread, Clam Man 2. It's very much wearing its influences on its sleve, and while it doesn't nail the heights of DE it still manages to be pretty charming.
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Doc Hawkins posted:the most important part is what you chose to say when you're shot and bleeding out That part is nuts. I still can't believe you get the ability to recontextualize the entire game up to that point, and it's OPTIONAL. New game plus is a dialogue option in the last quarter of the game, yet the way you play NG+ from the beginning by already knowing the option is coming.
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It does seem a logical extension of Inland Empire is seeing the fourth wall.
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Wait, what is the option?
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ThaumPenguin posted:It's based on Soviet anti-radiation drugs I tried Taren and while it won't let you sleep also makes you so confused and forgetful, there is no way you could run a shop.
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Sekenr posted:I tried Taren and while it won't let you sleep also makes you so confused and forgetful, there is no way you could run a shop. Sounds like someone who hasn't tried it enough!
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Sekenr posted:I tried Taren and while it won't let you sleep also makes you so confused and forgetful, there is no way you could run a shop. Have you never met a small business owner?
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Qwertycoatl posted:If you want Kim to not be shot you have to pass a skill check Ahhh, that makes sense. Fister Roboto posted:I was completely unprepared for the Tribunal. Didn't get my gun back, didn't have any T-500 armor, didn't have the Spirit Bomb, and while I did have "Kim *really* trusts you", my authority score was so low it didn't matter. The merc leader survived, and I got everyone but two of the Hardy Boys killed. It was extremely not disco. I was curious what the worst-case outcome from that scenario could be. I had my gun, full armor (sans helmet until the end), spirit bomb, and fairly high authority, but I was still pretty tight-butthole the whole time, and wasn't so sure that it all went as well as it could have. A couple of the Hardy boys still died in mine. What happens if you don't have the armor? The game made it seem like that was the only reason I wasn't dead. Also, in my initial run through the ending sequence of the game, I didn't realize that passing the check against the phasmid is incredibly important to contextualizing a big part of the plot, and my Electrochemistry score was in the toilet. I spent a ton of time savescumming it before realizing that it's literally an impossible check, even with a 6-6 roll, if you don't still have the pheromones on you. So I had to edit the save file to do it, and now I really wish I'd been able to see that content when I first finished it. Related: I also never discovered the final interaction with Joyce where she reveals who she is. D'oh.
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Brosnan posted:Also, in my initial run through the ending sequence of the game, I didn't realize that passing the check against the phasmid is incredibly important to contextualizing a big part of the plot, and my Electrochemistry score was in the toilet. I spent a ton of time savescumming it before realizing that it's literally an impossible check, even with a 6-6 roll, if you don't still have the pheromones on you. So I had to edit the save file to do it, and now I really wish I'd been able to see that content when I first finished it. ohhhhh. i had that experience but my Electrochemistry was very high. at first i thought it was a hilarious coincidence to get a 3% chance of failure at the one crucial time, but i accepted that when you can't touch to or get a picture of the phasmid, but you know it does exist, but they either have the ability to believe you in their hearts that there is magic yet unknown in the world or not, that has a kind of tragic beauty of its own. then, yes, after finishing the entire game, i was curious and reloaded to retry, but it kept failing 100% of the time,, and then i thought it was hard-coded to betray your trust in the game's systems just one time, to send a message to people who, after the entirety of the game, still find themselves thinking they can get the ~best ending~ somehow. then i looked online and found out other people were not locked into it the same way, and the only theory i could come up with was it happened to me because i didn't take a nap before talking to the deserter. i did accept the pheromones, what way is there to "lose" them? Doc Hawkins fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Jun 17, 2020 |
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Brosnan posted:Related: I also never discovered the final interaction with Joyce where she reveals who she is. D'oh. what interaction is that? she'll tell you she's an ultra (and the player is obligated to choose "Dios mio! A LIBERAL!"), plus the chats about the pale. what else is there?
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Brosnan posted:
IIRC Harry can dodge the first bullet if his skills are sufficient enough for that, even without armor. This happened on both of my playthroughs (one wearing armor, one not) so i've never seen what happens if Harry does get shot 2 times lol Also (again IIRC) there is an interesting detail in that the damage from the bullet that takes Harry down is a fair bit more severe if you try to actually dodge it (via the impossible skill check) rather than face your fate. e: World War Mammories posted:what interaction is that? she'll tell you she's an ultra (and the player is obligated to choose "Dios mio! A LIBERAL!"), plus the chats about the pale. what else is there? !!!Joyce spoiler alert, obviously!!! I assume they refer to the fact that Joyce is super high up in the Wild Pines hierarchy, as in one of the actual directors of the company, and she has the power to make a lot of calls on what the company will do in regards to the whole port strike situation nurmie fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Jun 17, 2020 |
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Doc Hawkins posted:ohhhhh. i had that experience but my Electrochemistry was very high. at first i thought it was a hilarious coincidence to get a 3% chance of failure at the one crucial time, but i accepted that when you can't touch to or get a picture of the phasmid, but you know it does exist, but they either have the ability to believe you in their hearts that there is magic yet unknown in the world or not, that has a kind of tragic beauty of its own. then, yes, after finishing the entire game, i was curious and reloaded to retry, but it kept failing 100% of the time,, and then i thought it was hard-coded to betray your trust in the game's systems just one time, to send a message to people who, after the entirety of the game, still find themselves thinking they can get the ~best ending~ somehow. then i looked online and found out other people were not locked into it the same way, and the only theory i could come up with was it happened to me because i didn't take a nap before talking to the deserter.
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Doc Hawkins posted:i did accept the pheromones, what way is there to "lose" them? I think if you bathe at any point in the game after receiving them, you won't have them on you anymore. There's also a difference in check modifiers between having pheromones on and "laying them on thick," which I think is a choice you get back when they're first offered to you. Have you gotten to see the conversation with the phasmid yet? World War Mammories posted:what interaction is that? she'll tell you she's an ultra (and the player is obligated to choose "Dios mio! A LIBERAL!"), plus the chats about the pale. what else is there? She's not a representative for Wild Pines; she is one of its directors. Evrart is trying to take over the harbor on behalf of the union to start a class war, and Joyce asks for your take in a way that basically shapes how all the political tension in Revachol is expected to manifest.
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Brosnan posted:I think if you bathe at any point in the game after receiving them, you won't have them on you anymore. There's also a difference in check modifiers between having pheromones on and "laying them on thick," which I think is a choice you get back when they're first offered to you. Have you gotten to see the conversation with the phasmid yet? Nope! Looking forward to it!
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Ragnar34 posted:That part is nuts. I still can't believe you get the ability to recontextualize the entire game up to that point, and it's OPTIONAL. New game plus is a dialogue option in the last quarter of the game, yet the way you play NG+ from the beginning by already knowing the option is coming. I’m assuming you’re talking about the ability to tell Kim that you were lying about losing your memory and faking it the whole time? I just loaded and it’s there, but it doesn’t seem to do anything beyond that. I didn’t play to the end after checking it out to see if there’s anything beyond making that statement.
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Brosnan posted:She's not a representative for Wild Pines; she is one of its directors. Evrart is trying to take over the harbor on behalf of the union to start a class war, and Joyce asks for your take in a way that basically shapes how all the political tension in Revachol is expected to manifest. I feel like the second sentence is her whole raison d'etre, but that first part is interesting. do you know what it takes to get this chat?
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I've always succeeded in having the lovely conversation with the giant bug but this time I failed. Can't wait to see how the jerks at the precinct respond to my story.
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Brosnan posted:Ahhh, that makes sense. There's a good reddit thread on the possible outcomes: https://www.reddit.com/r/DiscoElysium/comments/ed75o2/spoilers_possible_outcomes_from_the_tribunal/ (spoilers obviously, probably also don't read it if you don't want the climax dissected and laid bare) Glen, Angus, and Theo always get killed; Alain and Eugene always survive; Elizabeth, Titus, and Shanky can be killed or survive depending on your dialogue choices and skill checks.
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Fister Roboto posted:Glen, Angus, and Theo always get killed; Alain and Eugene always survive; Elizabeth, Titus, and Shanky can be killed or survive depending on your dialogue choices and skill checks. Feels important to me to remind that Ellis' / (currently) Raul's merc gang has all the chances of either geting killed or busting it out and living to fight/pillage/rape another day.
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