An insane mind posted:

I wonder how much of a 'dickpunch' CIG's funding would be to EA if it were expressed in a comparative graph form.

Also, thanks for the welcome Titanic

An insane mind posted:

Aren't they trying to push their child into Hollywood now and kind of succeeding?

Bofast posted:

Is this the one?
https://i.imgur.com/3dCPMji.gifv

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

I'm interested, but I'm not holding out a ton of hope. I imagine it'll be more arcade-y rather than sim-y. More NMS flight rather than Elite: Dangerous.

Say what you want about ED's grind and late game play- one thing they absolutely nailed was the spaceflight and landing/taking off. Give me that in a Star Wars universe and I'd be all over it. Or more Tie Fighter... that was a blast back in the day. First game I really got into.

Sandweed posted:

That is what is going to happen eventually. Quietly downsizing, but keeping up appearances. After all if they ever publicly admitted how far away a release is or how hosed the code is, funding would dry up. It's all a confidence scam at this point.

colonelwest posted:

Yeah she only thought of Star Citizen as a big cash cow and a way into Hollywood. She had a very obvious disdain for the space nerds and their dumb video game.

The Titanic posted:

I actually don't believe this anymore.

Only because people can see how far away it is from anything promised, but funding never stops. Devs go on videos and insult the needs of the public but nobody cares.

Cig just sells the next crazy thing and people apparently still buy it.

I'm pretty sure at this point Cr could pee in cornflakes and people would buy it for thousands. He's just one skip away from Garriott and his blood selling.

The Titanic posted:

This one made me laugh, and I know it's insensitive but the one where CR gives a thumbs up in his wing commander flight suit and then crashes into a building made me cough-google a bit too much too.

The Titanic posted:

I actually don't believe this anymore.

Only because people can see how far away it is from anything promised, but funding never stops. Devs go on videos and insult the needs of the public but nobody cares.

Cig just sells the next crazy thing and people apparently still buy it.

I'm pretty sure at this point Cr could pee in cornflakes and people would buy it for thousands. He's just one skip away from Garriott and his blood selling.

trucutru posted:

Yeah, without some external influence this train is not stopping.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I’m unironically rooting for this. I don’t ever want this never ending well of humor to dry up. I want CIG to have raised 500 million by 2025 and have 2 solar systems, the drink mixer mini game, and a beta for Squadron 42: Episode 2.

G0RF posted:

Elite feels so great. Wish it had more a satisfying progression than just grinding for better ships but what it does well, it does better than everybody.

TheDeadlyShoe posted:

The next 6 months will determine the future of Star Citizen. Surely if no progress is made in that time, the funding base will rebel.

no_recall posted:

I remember someone saying that S42 was in a playable state and would launch in March 2019? Or was it March 2020. My memory escapes me.

MOMA are you there? Just quoting the poo poo out of you.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I’m unironically rooting for this. I don’t ever want this never ending well of humor to dry up. I want CIG to have raised 500 million by 2025 and have 2 solar systems, the drink mixer mini game, and a beta for Squadron 42: Episode 2.

r/starcitizen: $300,000,000 posted:

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With this constant funding drip there's little motivation for SC to be released.

Star Citizen: almost $300m after seven and a half years of ongoing crowdfunding.
Borderlands 3: over $300m in three days after release. Fallout 4: over $750m in its opening day after release.

..."lItTlE MoTiVaTiOn"...

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They don't. They blindly focus on the trickle of crowdfunding cash and ignore the fact that releases of even moderately-hyped games bring in vastly more than that.

Detroit: Become Human wasn't exactly a blockbuster, and was PS4-exclusive, yet still sold 3m copies in a year and over 1m within the first two weeks. That's $60m raised in a fortnight, compared to SC taking about a year to do that, and over 100m in a year compared to CIG's best efforts of less than $50m in 2019.

"There's no motivation for them to release", they cry, while simultaneously insisting that all CIG care about is generating money. Absolutely clueless...

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They will never have motivation to finish the game if people keep giving them money.

Yes, because slowly accuring $50m a year is far more attractive than releasing episodic SQ42 titles and bringing in a couple of million $60 sales every two years.

If they sold 1m copies of a game it would beat their funding from any year. Mordhau and Kingdom Come: Deliverance managed that, and Early Access titles like Rust and The Forest have sold over 5m copies each, and assuming they all sold at EA prices ($15-20) they'd still comfortably beat CIGs best funding years.

I can understand people making this false claim through simple ignorance, but compounding that with this level of arrogance when it's demonstrably untrue is just astounding.

Beexoffel posted:

colonelwest posted:

I’m really hoping it’s not just a super arcadey arena dogfighting game with like 16 players and some waves of bad bots making up the “single player” portion. There was a cancelled Star Wars project along those lines 5 or so years ago.

Having mechanics something like the X-Wing series is a must. It’s the right mix of depth and accessibility.

dieselfruit posted:

Defund Star Citizen

Sillybones posted:

You can have one jpeg of chocolate now or two chocolates in an hour decade.

trucutru posted:

Is the game out yet? Asking for a friend.

L. Ron Hoover posted:

The choice isn't between releasing a successful game and whale hunting, because they couldn't make an actual game to save their lives. It's more like a choice between the game imploding and continuing to milk backers, what the hell do you think they're gonna do? It probably wasn't a scam to begin with, more like "might as well continue our incompetence as long as it pays pretty well." Funny those backers can't see that as a logical explanation.

edit: Discussion > Games > Star Citizen: THE MAKING OF DREAM

Pixelate posted:

I’m liking the rumours of VR support...

https://twitter.com/jeffgrubb/status/1271506445649903617

(I’m not asking for insider goss, but any wild hypotheticals always welcome XD)

G0RF posted:

Elite feels so great. Wish it had more a satisfying progression than just grinding for better ships but what it does well, it does better than everybody.

Star Wars Squadrons seems likely to nail the get-in-get-out team battle play stuff. FlightSim 2020 seems likely to do the “OMG this is a fully realized PLANET EARTH I can pilot all around.” No Man’s Sky is a perfect kiddie fun Space Sim that does everything at least decently and some things very well.

5+ years ago, Chris was laying claims to delivering the best possible version of all such games. A next generation flight and dogfighting simulator that blew all priors away. Fully realized, high fidelity planets full of adventures just awaiting discovery. Etc.

The competitive entrants since have carved away and bested every part of that blustery, amorphous plan and it just keeps coming. Squadron 42, if it ever releases, will be a bloated, pretentious slog that reminds people just how much crisper and more enjoyable Infinite Warfare’s campaign was. FlightSim 2020 looks poised to make the planetary tech of 3.x feel quaint and outdated. Star Wars Squadrons - if it’s like the space combat from Battlefront games - will hit that nostalgic “Every since I was a wide eyed 8 year old...” combat button Chris invoked and promised to push in the Kickstarter video.

And Elite adding space feet will likely give Star Citizen fans yet more cause for dissatisfaction as it blurs the biggest distinction remaining between the two games, and heaven forbid, gives “make your own fun” space gamers a better sim to LARP around in. Despite my frustrations with Elite, I know I’ll be diving in for dozens more hours.

Funding tracker says it’s the best of times, all other signs point to a project three years dead in the water... Chris says maybe 10 million players someday, the community screams “WTF Chris why is everything so horrible and progress moving so slowly!!!” Lando takes the camera every so often to say “diagetic”, show illustrations of future wildlife coming “someday”, and interview the fifth replacement of their original sound designer to explain how they’re capturing incredible noises — while Devs explain they can’t even get a “why Squadron is running late again” excuse video together as the deadline for Beta work rushes quietly by...

The games are forgotten, though not quite dead. They will never become what it promised to be and never live up to what they should have been. And it seems now Chris himself is resigned to that reality, fighting to postpone their final judgment by the marketplace and critics as long as possible so as to delay his own overdue career comeuppance.

Even now, as he scolds and berates the teams struggling to get their fake Squadron 42 update into picture perfect shape for release, he knows he’s hosed. And it’ll be worse come tomorrow, when Star Wars: Squadrons does their reveal and probably gets a ton of views and buzz, looks amazing and fun, and he has his teams go back to the drawing board yet again to “punch up the dogfighting” because “we have to be better than that guuuuuyyyyyyyys!”

But they won’t. They’ll suck at everything they promised to be the best at, and if we’re lucky, one day they’ll ship their proof of their inferiority so the world can glory in what a fantastic, pointless, priceless mess Chris made of things.

Scruffpuff posted:

It almost definitely was not a scam from day one. The weird thing is that this isn't just sunk cost fallacy, you find the exact same argument in almost every backer narrative: Chris has the freedom to make the game he wants to make without publisher interference. For this to make sense the following must be true:

1) Chris knows how to make a game
2) The game he wants to make will be good

Neither of these things is even remotely true, and we have decades of historical data to draw on to illustrate it. The tire fire this project has degenerated into can be laid directly at his feet, because given unlimited time and money the resulting shitshow on display has shown everyone exactly what he is capable of.

MarcusSA posted:

Not gonna lie this will probably make me go all in with some VR.

I'll legit blow $1000 on some hardware for this... oh and I'll be able to actually use it for other games too lol.

MarcusSA posted:

Not gonna lie this will probably make me go all in with some VR.

I'll legit blow $1000 on some hardware for this... oh and I'll be able to actually use it for other games too lol.

AutismVaccine posted:

1000 sounds a little low for a 2080 and VR stuff

Kosumo posted:

Dude, think twice!

For that kind of money, you could have some nice ships and a monocle and top hat. Also access to a private forum and mile high club!

Popete posted:

But the two chocolates are actually poop

MarcusSA posted:

OK maybe $1400?

I have a 1080 TI now which should be decent enough and the headsets are what $600?


Hmm you've actually made a good point. I'm going to pledge now.

EDIT: My real point is I'm down to spend cash on something for one game as long as I can actually use it for a number of other games. I did buy the Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS (which owns bones) for Elite and it was worth the price of admission for me.

MarcusSA posted:

OK maybe $1400?

I have a 1080 TI now which should be decent enough and the headsets are what $600?