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Jun 14, 2020 23:17
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Jun 14, 2020 23:53
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A wait and see approach is sometimes best.
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Jun 15, 2020 00:31
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A) Leave Delhi Alone!
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Jun 15, 2020 01:13
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B) Send an Imperial envoy to negotiate a diplomatic solution. The elector's government cannot be allowed to fall to peasant upheaval, even if they made the wrong choice last election.
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Jun 15, 2020 03:07
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C This insurrection is bad for business.
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Jun 15, 2020 03:18
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Jun 15, 2020 05:51
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A We must be patient.
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Jun 15, 2020 06:19
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 B Such petty things are not worth devoting soldiers towards. This is the point of having envoys.
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Jun 15, 2020 14:30
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We must help Our Children see the way past these squabbles, may the Revenant Tse curse them and drag them to the abyss. B) Send an Imperial envoy to negotiate a diplomatic solution.
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Jun 15, 2020 18:41
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Jun 15, 2020 19:34
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Jun 15, 2020 22:50
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C. Are we going to let peasants think they can make decisions for themselves?? Never! This sort of thing must be nipped in the bud before it spreads to other parts of the Sacred Empire. Besides, cracking the skulls of the rabble seems like an easy way to restore confidence in the Tibetan army.
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Jun 15, 2020 23:03
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B Diplomacy cannot cost us that much after all.
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Jun 16, 2020 01:26
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C The Demoness Lasya has sent us a sign! Go forth and conquer, lest we face her wrath again.
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Jun 16, 2020 02:40
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Iolite posted:
How dare you mock the second of our two great empresses! You shall be denied the honor of a sky burial, and the worms shall eat your bones!
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Jun 16, 2020 03:32
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B. Better to save our troops for further wars.
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Jun 16, 2020 17:21
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 The poll will close in two days, at 9 PM EST.
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Jun 18, 2020 04:47
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B At the very least we will maintain the illusion of caring about our peasants. Let’s see what they want and bring them to the negotiation table.
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Jun 18, 2020 12:00
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B! Let her sniff out the Buddhists behind this!
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Jun 19, 2020 06:33
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B Would sending envoys to a rebellion even work in game? I'm not familiar with EUIV
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Preliminary tallying shows the Middle Division has the most votes in with 13 electors. Merchants and peasantry outnumbering the clergy and the nobility is not a surprising thing. The next largest faction is Great Tibet with 7 electors. Not too far behind and tied are the Descendants and the Great Root faction with 6 electors each. So far, sending an Envoy is the most popular decision, being twice as popular as the middling decision of leaving things alone, and 3.5 times as popular as sending troops in. Xelkelvos fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Jun 20, 2020 |
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Flesnolk posted:
I'm relatively certain that you can offer to send troops to a country at war, for a price. But the cheaper it is the more likely they are to agree, naturally. They're called something that starts with C and might look like condetorri at a quick glance, but that is *not* the name. 99% chance that's a nonsense word
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B Help should be provided, but this may also be fate. We should not entangle ourselves militarily in this matter.
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POLLS ARE CLOSED Faction Realignment: Great Tibet: 8 (Rody One Half, Lord Cyrahzax, idhrendur, Xelkelvos, Iolite, Albino Squirrel, wedgekree, Flesnolk) Descendants: 6 (Tulip, Chatrapati, QuoProQuid, Ikasuhito, Gravity Cant Apple, Viola the Mad) Great Root: 7 (Soup du Jour, Unwise_Cashew, Clayren, Snipee, habeusdorkus, Coward, Mirdini) Middle Division: 13 (crimea, WilliamAnderson, ThatBasqueGuy, TinTower, NewMars, PurpleXVI, Pacho, AJ_Impy, zealouscub, GunnerJ, Josef bugman, HereticMIND, Dr_Gee) Policy Action: A) Leave it alone and see how the situation develops: 9 (crimea, ThatBasqueGuy, idhrendur, Tulip, Chatrapati, Soup du Jour, Unwise_Cashew, Pacho, Snipee) B) Send an Imperial envoy to negotiate a diplomatic solution: 20 (Rody One Half, William Anderson, TinTower, NewMars, QuoProQuid, PurpleXVI, Clayren, zealouscub, Xelkelvos, habeusdorkus, Ikasuhito, GunnerJ, Josef bugman, Albino Squirrel, wedgekree, HereticMIND, Dr_Gee, Coward, Flesnolk, Mirdini) C) Prepare and send a military expedition: 5 (Lord Cyrahzax, AJ_Impy, Gravity Cant Apple, Viola the Mad, Iolite) With 34 votes, the Middle Division gains influence. We will send an Imperial envoy to Sirmur. [/quote] Kangxi fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Jun 20, 2020 |
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It looks like you counted me twice?
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I accidentally copied the list of votes twice. Fixed!
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Req.Martyr posted:I'm relatively certain that you can offer to send troops to a country at war, for a price. But the cheaper it is the more likely they are to agree, naturally. They're called something that starts with C and might look like condetorri at a quick glance, but that is *not* the name. 99% chance that's a nonsense word Sadly you can't do this for rebels, instead for rebels you can support their rebellion with fat loads of money if you've got the diplomacy research and spy network for it. It's usually expensive, but incredibly boosts their number of spawned troops, plus if they win while you're bankrolling them, they immediately make an alliance with you when they take over control. Supporting noble rebels easily gets you something like 70k rebs split over two stacks that just loving go to town on their host nation. On the other hand it also tends to cost in the vicinity of 600+ ducats.
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A few quick and ill advised loans/debasement might be worth watching That Pesky Neighborhood split in half and become your friend. Especially if you're able to flat out invade immediately after. Sure, your books are going to be dripping red with the blood of your enemies, but as long as you haven't been too aggressive overall that's probably a good time to focus on provincial development.
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I was in the middle of writing an update, but that doesn't matter. I will be making no further posts until we receive more information about the forums' future. The relevant GBS thread is here (Content warning: domestic abuse): https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3928980 And the forums announcement is here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/announcement.php?forumid=1 I have no interest in giving any money or aid to people with multiple credible allegations of domestic abuse, and neither should you. Kangxi fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Jun 24, 2020 |
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So - with the news about the transfer of ownership, I feel I can continue the LP here for the time being. Expect an update soon.
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Yay!
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Chapter 65: 1534 to 1545 - The Dust of This World U Myo Thun has come back from the banquet in Thandwe, and he is a very happy drunk. His face is glowing and he can barely walk. The summer rain roars outside of his villa, and his most loyal servant, Wai Kan, is tending to him, ordering drinks to be brought and helping him to his favorite carved teak chair. It was a wonderful evening, a wonderful evening. I learned many things. That's very gratifying to hear, sir.  That whole affair in Sirmur, a while back? Went very well. The ambassador's cousin told me himself. Very good, sir.  They had killed him. The last elector, they had killed him for some reason. They had killed him. They had never even brought him to court. And this noble -- child -- takes his place. Somebody from a Tibetan-Punjabi family, who had never been to war. The poor child almost dances with happiness when he finds the Tibetans sent diplomats and not a party to kill him. Astonishing, sir.  It wasn't hard for everything to be cleared up. Sure, some temples were burned in all this, but they had promised to rebuild everything. No problem.  The Tibetans have other things to worry about. If a little place like Jharkand starts talking about taking their old land back, there is a reason to worry. I should hope not, sir.  The king's son can't ever ever keep his mouth shut. Not even if he's not drunk. He won't stop talking. I mean, if I know this, then no secret in the court is safe. Perish the thought, sir.  The king in Tibet is a much calmer person, so I hear. He spends great sums on his buildings. He's not, you understand, like the myths of Lasya with her pyramid, but he wants every city south of the plateau to have something with his name on it.  Every day he talks to people about it. Every day. And they go out to us in the provinces and territories and we learn from it.  And that's how we learn things. And I, for one, am grateful that silk is in fashion at that court. Silk. I love silk. Imagine if those big heavy wool coats were in style. We'd all boil to death. But you would still have one, sir. Exactly. You know me, good man, you do know me. I put my hair up in this ridiculous top knot instead of a head wrap, I wear all these fashions, so I can go to these parties in the capital, drink that butter tea, not coconut milk, and learn all these things.  And that's how I learned that Delhi, rebellious that they are, are sworn to defend Lhasa. They have no friends, Lhasa needs friends. It all works out.  They even had a good marriage tying them together. Some aunt, some... I forgot her name. Remind me to look her up. I must never forget names. Never ever. Of course, sir.  But anyway. I still have to keep mining that ironstone. The lady running the forges is asking for more. She's getting a lot of buyers.  And look, it's good their close to me. I can get the ironstone, they forge it. I mean, if I was some landlord with a whole lot of rice paddies, I've have so many other things to worry about. Now it's just getting as many miners as I can, as deep as I can. Everything to that end, sir.  I mean you don't just grab everything. Everybody has a place. It's who you are which makes you, not just what you do. I am noble, so I can own the land and care for the miners. I don't go up to the imperial family, I don't go down. I'm not from the plateau, but they let me in sometimes.  And they talk. People can talk and go learn to write. Yeah. Do we have any of that milk pudding? Ask the kitchen staff for it. I will take care of that, sir.  Great, thank you. I feel as rich as a trizin! Well. As rich as they used to be.  All those workshops aren't going to build themselves.  And those contracts - whoever gets them gets their hands on a fortune. If they can keep it.  You screw it up and the peasants throw you on a pyre...  or somebody else takes it from you.  The problems of having a big family, I guess. Gyalyum the Benevolent says not to kill each other if you're family, now there are so many of them, by the three treasures! I should not have said that. Tell me you'll keep my secret. To the grave, sir. Exactly. They can't know I have the sutras on me... or that I'm building all these stupas in the interior.  Why else am I in the world and in the petty squabbles of commerce? I build enough stupas, I'm free.  Silver and jewels are enough to make anyone do anything. Small wonder these scriptures are called precious jewels...  You know. You've been good to me. The least I did is pay for your daughters' schooling. How's she doing? She's found a place as a scribe in the local customs office, sir. Wonderful! Working inside all day. She's earned that. She takes to it marvelously, sir. I can't thank you enough, sir.  You know, there was a story about that old general, Dolkar Senol Nam. The one with the, the council. She said. You have to learn the Lhasa dialect to make it in court. You have to learn the Guge dialect to make it as a merchant. Wait, the Amdo dialect. Whatever. She can write Tibetan, yes? That's it.  Tibet provides still. Somebody rebels against them,  they end that nonsense. And that's why we're here. They provide for their allies.  No matter what happens, and no matter how else society is arranged. That is as constant as the mountains or as the moon and the tides. Besides order and disorder.  ... I should make a shrine for somebody. Don't you think so? That would be a splendid idea, sir.  Get me in good with the Tibetans and the locals. I'd need a suitable candidate...  Need to thread that needle very carefully. Have one of the boys fan me, would you? I'm sweating.  It's like the war. The emperor in Rajputana going west. You remember that? Of course, sir. It's all a ritual. I say the things they need so I'm one of them, and they say yes. It's like a priestly thing. I've never been to one of the sacrifices, but they do that.  But there are some people where you can't say things to everybody. The emperor goes west, and then the greatest kingdom in the east denounces them. You ever know anybody from Korea? No, sir. Neither have I. They make good celadon, though.  There was this Bengali merchant who told me, he told me they still have civilized kingdoms in the south but in the north they have nomads, but they're like us. Not the same, they've gone really into secret teachings and magic. He wouldn't tell me more, and you know, I get that.  But yeah the armies get on the boat, and then  that's when the emperor dies. He hadn't even left Lhasa yet. Must have been bad air, bad water, bad food, an evil being - whatever. He wasn't even fifty yet. So. Yeah. That's what got me into funding all these stupas and the books. As a safeguard, sir. Exactly. So I don't end up as a rat in the next life.  But the generals, they head west, north of all these hills, I made a tidy sum off of that for all the muskets and cannon.  I don't know all the details, I just know what they need and what I do with it.  The new king in Lhasa, he marries, he has a kid.  And you know, he's a good king.  I'm not saying that because I know him. I don't. I know he likes his silk.  He's paid off so many guys to make that silk.  But yeah, the war was over. Rajputana got some, I don't know.  The army was big, they feel like they can win.  The palace was built up again. I hear stories about it. So many stories about people in that palace. Amazing. I'm sure there are many good stories, sir.  I can't imagine why anybody would complain about getting to work on something that beautiful.  Maybe they're running out of brushes or something.  But I don't know what these artists want or who gives it to them. That's for somebody else, you know.  If it's money, whatever. Agh, by the skin of a rabid dog - I'm tired. Stay here. Of course, sir. Stay here. Get the fanner out of here. Yes, sir. You know, the world's big. It's really big.  You know the Mongolians, they're around a new Khan, Otgonbayar, what's his name. They are, sir? Yeah.  The north. Ends of the earth. Who even lives there. Too cold. No wonder all the Tibetans move. Are there any left?  I'd rather be somewhere warmer. Take me on one of the equator ships. I should talk to people on there.  Mali. I should go to Mali. That's the other end of the world. The other civilization, I mean.  We know the Abyssinians in Anatolia are good. They're good people, they make the art. But beyond that,  I don't know. Beyond there, you get into really weird stuff. You know, different creation. I don't, sir. But I can't disagree with all of them all the way.  You know, you know I'd need to visit something else, but. Shall I get your bed clothes ready, sir?  Yeah. Don't want to go to some cannibal country. Right away, sir.
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I completely forgot that in this LP's world, Europe got so devastated that Rome is just gone.
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Archaeologists of the future will have such a field day. with the Roman ruins.
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