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Looks like half a year's BIOS update drought might come to a halt soon: https://twitter.com/aschilling/status/1270293419697594368 OC.net discussion. Enables per-CCX OC for one.
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I ordered something from AliExpress on March 7th and it still hasn't made it to the USA.
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BeastOfExmoor posted:I ordered something from AliExpress on March 7th and it still hasn't made it to the USA. God, that sucks. Was it a Yeston Cute Pet?
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BeastOfExmoor posted:I ordered something from AliExpress on March 7th and it still hasn't made it to the USA. I bought a pair of earphones for Covid work at home from AliExpress in March that's still stuck somewhere in China's post-customs shipping areas. They'll probably have one of those storage auction TV shows to get rid of all the stored stuff when they open up.
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i hope not i still havent received 2 bongs i ordered on ebay
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So apparently they delayed 4000 series until next year cos the 3000 series are selling gangbusters
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:So apparently they delayed 4000 series until next year cos the 3000 series are selling gangbusters Source? I wouldn't be surprised though given the 'rona. Everybody lost a couple months of work and shipping remains a mess. edit found it: https://twitter.com/chiakokhua/status/1272426307628892163 Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Jun 15, 2020 |
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Jun 15, 2020 17:48
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AMD has learned nothing, and doesn't even have that killer nicstinct.
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SourKraut posted:AMD has learned nothing, and doesn't even have that killer nicstinct.
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Jun 15, 2020 18:10
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Khorne posted:Their original plan was late 2020. That seems to hint it's still late 2020. They told investors Q4. If it launches at CES in the first week of January that's only a 1 week delay from end of Q4. I was mostly joking and trying to make a horrible pun, but it failed flat on its face. 
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If this plays out (Zen 3 in December/January rather than September) I might go ahead and upgrade my 2700s to 3900XTs. Or possibly just plain 3900Xs, depending on how prices and performance looks.
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Jun 15, 2020 18:23
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The leaks have had Zen3 late this year/early next year since Zen2 launched tbh. Zen4/AM5 isn’t launching until 2022 so there is time to fill.
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TSMC giving Huawei the heave-ho frees up a lot of supply. It'll be interesting to see if AMD can snap some up.
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:TSMC giving Huawei the heave-ho They what?  What are their options? Samsung is out of the picture, I assume. Some 28nm fab inside china?
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I figured the separation was coming for TSMC to get the major tax credits/investment for the US fab in Arizona. It also makes me wonder whether a significant chunk of the future US fab will go towards Apple's ARM-based Macs.
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SourKraut posted:AMD has learned nothing, and doesn't even have that killer nicstinct.
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Budzilla posted:Why would AMD release better stuff sooner? Intel needs to get off 14nm and until they do AMD will just wring as many sales as they can out of each CPU release until Intel has a legitimate competitor. SourKraut posted:I was mostly joking and trying to make a horrible pun, but it failed flat on its face.
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So I managed to get one of those MSI X570 Tomahawk boards by driving 60km for it. It was DOA. No power going to the board. On the bright side I managed to get an Asrock X570 Taichi for a great price.
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Budzilla posted:Why would AMD release better stuff sooner?
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:Intel still outsell AMD by a huge margin. AMD should make the case to buy their stuff as compelling as possible before Intel get their poo poo together and close the gap. With how scarce Zen 2 chips were at launch, building up inventory without osbourning current cpus doesn't sound bad. What good is launching early if I can't buy the thing until a couple months later regardless?
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I have to say the rumoured 4700G 8 core 65W APU is tempting me to make a proxmox host and replace my desktop Linux machine with a VM. Combined with PCIe4 opening up the possibility of boards with more PCIe x4-16 slots (and without losing them when you use an APU). Looks like combined with an AsRock B550 Taichi I'd get a Gen3x8 for a passthrough GPU, Gen3x8 for a 10GbE card, a Gen3x4 for a HBA adaptor plus two spare x1 slots. By comparison the X470 generation with an APU would only have offered one Gen3x8, one Gen2x8 and two Gen2x1.
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I didn't see your second post also the GPU thread is that way >>>ConanTheLibrarian posted:Intel still outsell AMD by a huge margin. AMD should make the case to buy their stuff as compelling as possible before Intel get their poo poo together and close the gap.
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The last time AMD had objectively superior products to Intel they maxed out around 50% market share. And that was with CPUs that were better in every way, there weren't any "but what about single thread limited high framerate esports games?" reasons for buying Intel. (IIRC Intel fanboys at the time justified their purchases by pointing to AMD's chipset issues, which were mostly a problem from the early Athlon days that weren't really a thing anymore by then) And yeah, the r/AMD crowd ensures that AMD has a market share floor regardless of the crap they're putting out, but it's way lower than Intel's.
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Ryzen XT CPUs and A520 mobos announced. Also full XT CPU product pages are up. I am truly whelmed. Edit: typo (A520, not B520) mdxi fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jun 16, 2020 |
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At least did they increase the IF clock or some poo poo besides +200mhz?
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:Intel still outsell AMD by a huge margin. AMD should make the case to buy their stuff as compelling as possible before Intel get their poo poo together and close the gap. In the server market, zen3 needs to come out as soon as possible. In the laptop market, the sooner they can move forward the better. Although they now have a fairly competitive laptop CPU for the time in some people's lifetimes. AMD is still in a rush to get zen3 out and aren't stalling, but they do have the luxury to push consumer launch back a few months if they feel it will result in a better launch and smoother transition from zen2 to zen3. The zen+ to zen2 transition sucked with massive supply shortages. Intel already launched what they're launching for the next ~12 months in the enthusiast market and zen2 competes with it fine Khorne fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Jun 16, 2020 |
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Was curious if any B550 boards were in stock on Amazon this morning and wound up impulse buying a ASUS TUF Gaming B550-PLUS that will be here tomorrow. Will follow up with any positive or negative experiences.
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Theris posted:The last time AMD had objectively superior products to Intel they maxed out around 50% market share. And that was with CPUs that were better in every way, there weren't any "but what about single thread limited high framerate esports games?" reasons for buying Intel. (IIRC Intel fanboys at the time justified their purchases by pointing to AMD's chipset issues, which were mostly a problem from the early Athlon days that weren't really a thing anymore by then) the r/AMD people are not a market share, they're a rounding error. their floor market share for the 2010s was budget PCs and craptops. Also, they never got close to 50% back in 2006. Their high water mark back then was about 25% (because intel was bribing OEMs to keep AMD out). The graphs that show 50% are from passmark, aka user-submitted enthusiasts. Which is interesting & useful data, but not exactly representative of the big picture. For example, passmark still has intel ahead 84% to 14% on laptops. Honestly if they're delaying desktop 4000 to ship more Renoir CPUs that would be the best scenario of all for them. This is the first time ever that AMD has had a competitive laptop CPU going into actually nice laptops. AMD becoming an option in good laptops would make intel poo poo themselves far more than AMD having even 100% of the desktop enthusiast market.
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Budzilla posted:I didn't see your second post also the GPU thread is that way >>> It was actually a poor joke about Intel having bought the company that makes Killer NICs, which I know everyone has made jokes about in the past.
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cmonnn athlon 4000g
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:cmonnn athlon 4000g the lowest part on the leaked lists for desktop are the 4/8 R3 4200G. there are some leaked "Athlon Gold/Silver" parts (along with an R3 3350G), but they all appear to be Picasso and not Renoir. guess we will see soon.
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I am sure the answer is "gently caress off we dont know" but I have a B450 that 99.9% will support zen3, but I currently have 32GB of slow RAM. Is DDR4-3200 fast enough for zen3 or it's better to wait? i was hoping to snag before a price jump, or have time to watch for a sale...
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charity rereg posted:I am sure the answer is "gently caress off we dont know" but I have a B450 that 99.9% will support zen3, but I currently have 32GB of slow RAM. Is DDR4-3200 fast enough for zen3 or it's better to wait? i was hoping to snag before a price jump, or have time to watch for a sale... 1) DDR-3200 isn't slow, it's average, unless the timings are also crap. You can get slightly more performance with 3600, but not enough to be worth re-buying 32gb of ram. And everything above 3600 is very much in the diminishing returns zone. 2) If your B450 supports manually setting the IF clock, presumably it will also support that on Zen 3. Raising the IF clock was the main reason to get 3600 ram on Zen 1 & 1+.
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charity rereg posted:I am sure the answer is "gently caress off we dont know" but I have a B450 that 99.9% will support zen3, but I currently have 32GB of slow RAM. Is DDR4-3200 fast enough for zen3 or it's better to wait? i was hoping to snag before a price jump, or have time to watch for a sale... The likelihood you'll encounter a case where upgrading to faster RAM would make a substantial difference is tiny. Zen 3 is also doing away with the CCX interface connecting groups of cores, so it's possible that will no longer be a speed bottleneck dependent upon system memory speed. The architecture's likely to be as chock full of cache as Zen 2 is, which also somewhat lessens the immediate impact of system memory speed. It is too early to know for sure, but as Klyith said, it's probably not worth re-buying that much perfectly good RAM. Hell, my family PC's a Ryzen 1700 getting by on handed down DDR4-2400, and it's just fine 
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I have DDR4-2400 not 3200, was looking to upgrade in lockstep with zen3. My understanding is that on the high end (2k, 100 fps+) it mattered. On zen2 i've seen an easy 10-15 FPS improvement just between DDR4-2400 & 3200, which is honestly a pretty decent boost. Some it's more, some it's less, but I've seen it has a big impact in Arma 3, which I'm stupid enough to play. The 32GB will just get passed down to my plex server/htpc. I was planning on getting a B550 but since I dont have to have plenty of $$ in the budget for a ~$110 RAM purchase. It's the last place I'll have left to upgrade for a long time too 
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That GIGABYTE B550 Vision D looks pretty. Kind of a shame about the 8x/8x slot config for gaming uses though.
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Cygni posted:That GIGABYTE B550 Vision D looks pretty. Kind of a shame about the 8x/8x slot config for gaming uses though. Pablo Bluth fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Jun 17, 2020 |
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