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The Muppets On PCP posted:quik trip is a way better gas station than sheetz or wawa but the rest is pretty mediocre Culver's dude
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Good to have Virgil back, this was a great episode.
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Saagonsa posted:Culver's dude sonic tier if someone suggests going there you wouldn't say no, but it's not a place you think about or go out of your way to ever stop at
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That was an excellent episode. Amber was really good. Also virgil back. 
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Adam Serwer said the same thing that Will did - that the best anti-racism books are history books. It's weird that people buy stuff like White Fragility when there are a whole bunch of good books about the subjugation of black people in America. Reminds me I gotta buy the Jakarta Method. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Jun 16, 2020 |
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When this book spiked last week on Amazon goons were shilling this book in the GBS protest thread left, right, and center and it explained soooooo much about the kinds of interactions I’ve had on this website. SA really is thousands of extremely pale keyboard warriors who insist on performative role playing interactions with the POC they meet or choose to stan online because they probably never interact with minorities outside of work or internet.
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Bust Rodd posted:When this book spiked last week on Amazon goons were shilling this book in the GBS protest thread left, right, and center and it explained soooooo much about the kinds of interactions I’ve had on this website. SA really is thousands of extremely pale keyboard warriors who insist on performative role playing interactions with the POC they meet or choose to stan online because they probably never interact with minorities outside of work or internet. Was it GBS or D&D?
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It was the GBS riot thread. The Cool Zone thread has way more posters who recognized this book as dorky homework for white peeple by white peeple.
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Jun 16, 2020 13:32
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I honestly enjoyed this take on it: https://twitter.com/BrandyLJensen/status/1272002169298923520 This episode worked really well for me but on the sense that I had to hear Amber and Matt as these cool people with insights that just appeared out of nowhere and not put all of that on the context on her writing or his stream thoughts.
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lol the lady who write White Fragility is white? I had a friend tell me the other day she was so proud of her bank for doing a book club of it.
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It's nice to know that, somewhere, there's a place worse than us
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The insanely racist way in which Chapo ‘fans’ reduce Amber & Virgil to token minorities and not two of the more intelligent and well-read people currently working in progressive media is bonkers. I do not use reddit ever because the good parts of it matriculates here or elsewhere, but every Chapo subreddit post I’ve see always has some weird “Chapo tries to pretend it’s not racist by hiring these MINORITIES, so FAKE” or “they tell Amber to say the craziest ideas so we’ll accept them because she is POC!” It’s like holding up a carnival mirror to another carnival mirror.... a sub forum of white leftists listening to a couple of Jewish and Asian people talking about how not liking a racist book by a creepy white lady is actually the MOST racist...
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Bust Rodd posted:The insanely racist way in which Chapo ‘fans’ reduce Amber & Virgil to token minorities and not two of the more intelligent and well-read people currently working in progressive media is bonkers. I do not use reddit ever because the good parts of it matriculates here or elsewhere, but every Chapo subreddit post I’ve see always has some weird “Chapo tries to pretend it’s not racist by hiring these MINORITIES, so FAKE” or “they tell Amber to say the craziest ideas so we’ll accept them because she is POC!” Virgil is also a good political analyst
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According to the chapo reddit, if you criticize a bullshit workplace anti-racism scam, you ipso facto think racism is fine, actually. 
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poc love when white people pay other white people to explain racism to them.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I maintain that Amber is the smartest one of them Marxist Amber is the best Chapo Anti-woke culture warrior Amber is the worst Chapo
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Bust Rodd posted:The insanely racist way in which Chapo ‘fans’ reduce Amber & Virgil to token minorities and not two of the more intelligent and well-read people currently working in progressive media is bonkers. I do not use reddit ever because the good parts of it matriculates here or elsewhere, but every Chapo subreddit post I’ve see always has some weird “Chapo tries to pretend it’s not racist by hiring these MINORITIES, so FAKE” or “they tell Amber to say the craziest ideas so we’ll accept them because she is POC!” To be frank it doesn't help that some do defend her by reducing her as the Lady Chapo when someone brings up anything she does or writes as a serious political analyst. Or that a bunch of the replies on the reddit do agree with White Fragility being a bad book and still call their pod a bad analysis of it, and still get pegged as being apologists of the book. Oh well, time for another boring scoldy stream from Matt about it where he makes a weepy voice about fans no longer seeing them as heralds or lighthouses or whatever.
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All the softest Chapo fans think she’s a fascist because of her other podcast but I cannot find anything to indicate why or what Red Scare is even about or what extremist views might have been shared.
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Jun 16, 2020 14:42
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It doesn't take a lot to get called a fascist by those people.
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Bust Rodd posted:All the softest Chapo fans think she’s a fascist because of her other podcast but I cannot find anything to indicate why or what Red Scare is even about or what extremist views might have been shared. That time she wrote in the UK's premier crypto-fash magazine about how she hates the SJWs whilst in the same interview Red Scare Anna trashed MeToo, Antifa and went off about how women were perverting their bodies by having birth control surgeries was extremely bad.
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Jun 16, 2020 14:50
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multijoe posted:Marxist Amber is the best Chapo
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There is some weird cognitive dissonance in how some people relate to Amber and what she says. She is friends with Angela Nagle irl and she's been on Red Scare but although those are of course crypto-fash Amber is 90% good and just needs to be contrarian from time to time. Similarly pretty sure Liz from Trueanon DMs or whatever with Aimee Therese and probably have similar opinions on some things. Kind of seems like canceling only works on people who aren't already well liked and popular. Being funny probably helps too.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yeah this is my feeling as well Angry labor Amber is good, but she has this huge blind spot towards the media's role in influencing elections against Leftist candidates. She did it with both Corbyn and Sanders. She's also dynamite when she is analyzing movies. Bring back Frost/Christman.
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Grevling posted:There is some weird cognitive dissonance in how some people relate to Amber and what she says. She is friends with Angela Nagle irl and she's been on Red Scare but although those are of course crypto-fash Amber is 90% good and just needs to be contrarian from time to time. Similarly pretty sure Liz from Trueanon DMs or whatever with Aimee Therese and probably have similar opinions on some things. Kind of seems like canceling only works on people who aren't already well liked and popular. Being funny probably helps too. None of these people are well-liked or popular, we're listening to a very niche podcast ecosystem.
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Forceholy posted:Angry labor Amber is good, but she has this huge blind spot towards the media's role in influencing elections against Leftist candidates. She did it with both Corbyn and Sanders. She and the other hosts try to not fall into the nihilist paraylsis of "lol nothing matters", and it does often come off as naivety.
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Kunster posted:To be frank it doesn't help that some do defend her by reducing her as the Lady Chapo when someone brings up anything she does or writes as a serious political analyst. Or that a bunch of the replies on the reddit do agree with White Fragility being a bad book and still call their pod a bad analysis of it, and still get pegged as being apologists of the book. Oh well, time for another boring scoldy stream from Matt about it where he makes a weepy voice about fans no longer seeing them as heralds or lighthouses or whatever. I don't particularly mean offense, I'm more confused than anything, but your posts about Matt's streams are insane. I've watched all his streams and it's like you watched a set of streams from some other reality. I don't recall him saying all this poo poo you post about, or if he did it was a throwaway sentence or two not something I would ever think to post post post about.
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I like Red Scare. It’s not particularly insightful but it gives me a different enough viewpoint and is funny enough that I listen out of momentum.
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multijoe posted:Marxist Amber is the best Chapo That's the same Amber
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If any prolonged exposure to the digital left hasn't left you with the utmost disdain for their wishy-washy milksop moralism and appeals to decorum than I don't know what to tell ya, you're probably a Bailey Booster
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UP AND ADAM posted:That's the same Amber Amber is a land of contrasts
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Bust Rodd posted:If any prolonged exposure to the digital left hasn't left you with the utmost disdain for their wishy-washy milksop moralism and appeals to decorum than I don't know what to tell ya, you're probably a Bailey Booster Yeah
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multijoe posted:That time she wrote in the UK's premier crypto-fash magazine about how she hates the SJWs whilst in the same interview Red Scare Anna trashed MeToo, Antifa and went off about how women were perverting their bodies by having birth control surgeries was extremely bad. It's a one sentence comment, Even in the context (wholly supplied by the lovely right-wing magazine) the most you could say is that Amber is on record of disapproving of Lena Dunhams article on her hysterectomy, of which there are many valid criticisms. Wokescolds spun that sentence into a fully formed ideological argument that supposedly proves Amber is a reactionary. I urge people to actually read the article instead of internalizing the online mindcanon version. thotsky fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Jun 16, 2020 |
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unexplodable posted:I don't particularly mean offense, I'm more confused than anything, but your posts about Matt's streams are insane. I've watched all his streams and it's like you watched a set of streams from some other reality. I don't recall him saying all this poo poo you post about, or if he did it was a throwaway sentence or two not something I would ever think to post post post about. I feel like this with a lot of posts about chapo in general.
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thotsky posted:It's a one sentence comment, Even in the context (wholly supplied by the lovely right-wing magazine) Why it’s almost as if not participating in left-bashing interviews with far right magazines in the first place would be a better option
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Bryter posted:Why it’s almost as if not participating in left-bashing interviews with far right magazines in the first place would be a better option i hope Amber at least told people to buy the book
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Nothus posted:She and the other hosts try to not fall into the nihilist paraylsis of "lol nothing matters", and it does often come off as naivety. yea I think this is mainly it, as corny as it is they seemed very actively trying not to fall into blackpill 'lol it's over you all wasted your time' poo poo and that kinda wound up with them falling into that 2016 joke of 'this is actually good...FOR BERNIE' and pretending that just knocking on doors will overcome the media entirely uniting against him and all. To be honest I think that is the better approach even if, yea when the loss comes it does make them look a bit naive about things, just because you can turn 'okay we lost but look how much we did, we have to keep building on it' into progress way easier than 'lol toldja this was pointless'
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Bryter posted:Why it’s almost as if not participating in left-bashing interviews with far right magazines in the first place would be a better option but enough about their NYT writeup
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