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disaster pastor: May 1, 2007

Epicurius posted:

To me, I sort of take Cassie's hesitation in this book at face value; She's risking all their lives on a dream they had and a conversation with a whale, and she's scared she's going to get them killed for no reason, and she doesn't want the responsibility of choosing. She asks Jake earlier in the book to decide if they should go on the mission, and admits that the reason she's asking him is "And then if it's a disaster, it will all be on your head," I said. "You'll be the one who feels bad. You'll be the one to blame".

So I guess I don't know whether I agree with you or not? I think I maybe have a more charitable view of "she wants to keep her hands clean" than the people who have the theory a saying, "She doesn't want to be stuck with the responsibility or guilt when things go wrong", which is maybe more fear than hypocracy?

In this book, I think you're absolutely right (and like I said, I really don't believe that's how we're supposed to read Cassie anyway). But it's the tip of an iceberg that we see more of later.

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Comrade Blyatlov posted:

Well your avatar checks out

Somebody hasn't read Everworld by the same author that wrote these books.

Its a recurring theme in her books and it isn't exactly subtle.

# ? Jun 16, 2020 13:07

Avalerion: Oct 19, 2012

Epicurius posted:

To me, I sort of take Cassie's hesitation in this book at face value; She's risking all their lives on a dream they had and a conversation with a whale, and she's scared she's going to get them killed for no reason, and she doesn't want the responsibility of choosing. She asks Jake earlier in the book to decide if they should go on the mission, and admits that the reason she's asking him is "And then if it's a disaster, it will all be on your head," I said. "You'll be the one who feels bad. You'll be the one to blame".

So I guess I don't know whether I agree with you or not? I think I maybe have a more charitable view of "she wants to keep her hands clean" than the people who have the theory a saying, "She doesn't want to be stuck with the responsibility or guilt when things go wrong", which is maybe more fear than hypocracy?

Either way this is prob why they are heading towards being a couple, in contrast Jake seems to be the natural leader in the group and has no problem making decisions or taking responsibility.

# ? Jun 16, 2020 16:31

Ytlaya: Nov 13, 2005

Khizan posted:

Where would you go? Is there a government that you would trust with this? One that you believe would handle it properly, that wouldn't just lock you in a black site research center for the rest of your life? That would be willing to let you walk free while knowing what you could do?

I can't think of any.

You can communicate via mind speech without being seen pretty easily (due to being able to morph insects or birds or other things that can easily escape if the human is a Controller, if they even notice who's sending the thought speech to begin with). Just try it with various people in a place far from their city (I get the impression the Yeerks aren't in most of the world - kinda by necessity, since the whole reason they find Earth appealing is because its population is so massive compared with other galactic civilizations in this setting), and maybe do it to several people in the same room so they know the others aren't lying (and they're not going crazy).

chitoryu12 posted:

During this secret war in which aliens are mind controlling humans, why do the resistance not merely tell the government what's happening?

There are other governments (most of which probably aren't infiltrated since there just aren't that many Yeerks and 99% of people in world governments are probably still not Controllers), and being able to morph into birds makes very long distance travel pretty plausible (if a bit tedious due to having to morph out briefly every couple hours).

Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jun 16, 2020

# ? Jun 16, 2020 19:24

Cythereal: Nov 8, 2009; I love the potoo,
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I think a bigger issue is: how could the Animorphs prove the truth of what they're saying? Yes, they have their morphing capabilities. Yes, there is a certain spoiler character. But that's still a long way from proving their version of events to anyone, particularly given that what Controllers do exist in whatever government or institution they reveal themselves to would likely try to muddy the waters.

Doing so would also risk an escalation with the Yeerks that Earth might not survive. Just because the Yeerks haven't hit the planet with an open attack yet doesn't mean they're not capable of making one, and the Animorphs putting all their cards on the table might very well result in the Yeerks putting down all of theirs. That's a scenario the Animorphs probably won't walk away from whistling.

# ? Jun 16, 2020 20:14

Epicurius: Apr 10, 2010; College Slice

Ytlaya posted:

There are other governments (most of which probably aren't infiltrated since there just aren't that many Yeerks and 99% of people in world governments are probably still not Controllers), and being able to morph into birds makes very long distance travel pretty plausible (if a bit tedious due to having to morph out briefly every couple hours).

I mean, the kids don't know that, though. They don't know to what extent the Yeerks have infiltrated. Also, from a practical standpoint, even assuming they can do the bird/person/bird/person thing every two hours, which they're having trouble with in this book, they still have parents, and while the "Mom, dad, I'm sleeping over at Rachel's house, and you don't have to call her mom because she said its ok" thing might work, if you say to your parents "Umm, mom, dad, I'm going to be gone for a few days because I have to turn into a bird and fly to England so I can tell the Prime Minister that alien slugs are trying to take over the world", the response you should expect is more on the level of either "We're taking you to a therapist" or "You're grounded".

There's also, of course, the big answer to "why doesn't the author have their characters do x" which is that it doesn't fit with the story they're trying to tell, and this is, of course, a story about becoming a teenager and going through experiences and changes you're convinced you can't tell anybody about, as all the things you took for granted as a kid about trusting adults and knowing who your friends were and just accepting the world around you and what you've been taught all fades away. This is, at its base, a story about adolescence and the fears and struggles you face going through it.

# ? Jun 16, 2020 20:56

Avalerion: Oct 19, 2012

Telling and warning people about the yeerks is literally what the dying andalite told the kids to do, as someone remembered earlier, though. :allears:

# ? Jun 16, 2020 21:08

OctaviusBeaver: Apr 30, 2009; Say what now?

TBF I think they kind of have been trying to warn people.

Book 1 - try to free a bunch of people from the Yeerk pool which would definitely blow the Yeerk's cover
Book 3 - try to disable the food ship's cloaking device over a city

Neither one worked out well for them.

# ? Jun 16, 2020 21:14

wizzardstaff: Apr 6, 2018; Zorch! Splat! Pow!

I don't think it's ever addressed in the fiction exactly how they are narrating the books and to whom, but the whole conceit is that they are telling their story so that you, the reader who just picked the book up at your Scholastic book fair, know what's going on.

# ? Jun 16, 2020 21:18

chitoryu12: Apr 24, 2014

Avalerion posted:

Telling and warning people about the yeerks is literally what the dying andalite told the kids to do, as someone remembered earlier, though.

The Andalites clearly have no familiarity with ACAB.

# ? Jun 16, 2020 21:25

nine-gear crow: Aug 10, 2013

chitoryu12 posted:

The Andalites clearly have no familiarity with ACAB.

That's because the Andalites are the cops :colbert:

# ? Jun 16, 2020 21:28

Khizan: Jul 30, 2013

Ytlaya posted:

There are other governments (most of which probably aren't infiltrated since there just aren't that many Yeerks and 99% of people in world governments are probably still not Controllers), and being able to morph into birds makes very long distance travel pretty plausible (if a bit tedious due to having to morph out briefly every couple hours).

Travel by this method w+ould be exceedingly dangerous.

How good is your sense of direction? Is it "Fly across the freezing cold ocean as a bird while turning into a human every ~1hr45mins and still hit your target" good? They can't wear a watch to track the time. These books predate affordable consumer GPS, which they couldn't carry with them anyways. Similarly, they can't carry a map and compass and even if they could carry them they couldn't effectively navigate with them as a human treading water in, again, the freezing cold ocean.

And if they did get over there successfully they'd have no identification and no passport and no local currency. If they don't hit the UK, they wouldn't speak the language, either, though English is fairly common across Europe. They wouldn't know the country, so they'd basically have to hit shore somewhere and then make their way to government so they could turn into mosquitoes and hope that their psychic messages would be believed and acted upon without the person receiving them just assuming they're going loving crazy.

And while all this is going on their home life would be probably incinerating behind them. Missing persons reports, search teams, the whole nine yards.

Sure, none of those obstacles are insurmountable given enough resources, but they're 13 year old kids who predate the internet. They don't have those resources.

# ? Jun 16, 2020 22:08

President Ark: May 16, 2010

nine-gear crow posted:

That's because the Andalites are the cops

# ? Jun 16, 2020 23:08

Daikloktos: Jan 1, 2020; by Cyrano4747

biracial bear for uncut posted:

ACAB, though. Also the books don't mention it much, but don't forget Cassie's background and that these books took place in the US.

That bit in Megamorphs where she gets called the N-Word and obliges the guy in becoming white was pretty great.

# ? Jun 16, 2020 23:56

Epicurius: Apr 10, 2010; College Slice

The Message-Chapter 17

quote:

<Everyone take in as much air as you can,> I said again. <We're going deep.>

We dove and swam almost straight down. Down, down, leaving the bright barrier behind. Away from the sun. Away from the light. Away from the air that we needed just as much as humans did.

I echolocated a school of fish ahead, just below us. But we weren't there to eat lunch. We swam through the fish and still we headed down. Down until we could see the ocean floor beneath us.

We leveled off and skimmed across the ocean floor, like low-flying jets racing at treetop level. Over waving fields of seaweed. Through darting schools of fish. Over jutting extrusions, of rock, encrusted by barnacles and home to a thousand bizarre crabs and lobsters and urchins and worms and snails.

Ahead was a ridge, a sort of long, low hill. We sailed over it.

< I'm starting to feel like maybe taking a breath would be a good thing,> Rachel said. <How much farther - >

We all saw it at the same time.

Saw it, yes, but could hardly believe it.

I've become used to seeing impossible things - aliens, spaceships, my own friends turning into animals. But this was just plain mind-boggling.

It was round. As round as a plate. A very large plate. From one side to the other, the diameter must have been half a mile.

It was covered by a transparent dome. Clear glass, or whatever it is the Andalites use for glass.

And within the dome, protected from the crushing force of the water, was what looked very much like a park.

A park, in a plastic dome, at the bottom of the ocean.

There was grass, more blue than green, but it still looked like grass. There were trees like huge stems of broccoli. And other trees like orange and blue asparagus spears. At the center was a small lake, crystal-clear blue water. From the water grew fantastic, transparent green crystals in shapes like eccentric snowflakes.

<Whoa,> Marco said.

<Man,> Jake commented.

<Is this what you expected, Cassie?> Rachel asked me.

<I ... I had dreams ... I saw flashes of something . . . but this! This is unbelievable.>

<l think that may be a hatch down there,> Marco said. <You see the part that sticks out?>

<Let's try it,> Jake said. <l can't hold my breath much longer.>

We arced down toward a part of the glass dome that seemed different from the rest. As we got closer, we could really begin to feel the size of the dome. It was like approaching one of those huge stadiums where they play football. But even bigger, if you can imagine that.

<It is a hatch,> Rachel reported. She was a little ahead of the rest of us. < It's some kind of a glass door. On the other side there's a little room, then another door that leads into the dome. There's a little red panel beside the outer door.>

<Let's either try it or surface,> Marco said urgently.

<That red panel. That's got to be the door-knob,> Jake said. <Here goes. Let's hope this works.> He pressed his beak against the panel.

Instantly the outer door opened.

<We should try this one at a time, see if it's safe,> Marco said.

<Not enough time,> I said. My lungs were burning. I needed air.

The four of us swam in through the outer door. There was a second red panel. I punched it with my beak and the door closed, sealing us into a small, glass room. We could see out and up into the ocean all around. But the side leading into the dome was opaque.

<l knew we'd end up in an aquarium sooner or later,> Marco said.

The water began to drain from the room, slowly, a little at a time. This opened an area of air at the top of the enclosure. I raised my blow hole and sucked in blessed oxygen.

< Okay , let's morph,> Jake said.

I had already started. By the time the enclosure was half drained, I could stand on my own human feet.

"We made it," Marco said after his human mouth reformed. "I don't know where we made it to, but we made it."

The enclosure was empty now. The four of us stood there barefoot, dressed only in our soggy morphing outfits. There was one last red panel beside the door leading into the dome.

"Ready?" Jake asked.

"As ready as I'll ever be," Marco said.

Jake pressed it with his hand.

The door slid open. I felt a wave of warm, incredibly fragrant air rush in.

I caught a glimpse of. . .

Then a brilliant flash of light. . .

And suddenly I was unconscious.

They've found.....something.

# ? Jun 16, 2020 23:58

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Daikloktos posted:

That bit in Megamorphs where she gets called the N-Word and obliges the guy in becoming white was pretty great.

The book where she goes to Australia and teams up with some Kangaroos and Aborigines to take out Visser 3's hit squad with boomerangs and badass kangaroo muscles was neat, too.

# ? Jun 17, 2020 01:37

Tree Bucket: Apr 1, 2016; R.I.P.idura leucophrys

I honestly can't wait for the next chapter. Come on come on come on!

# ? Jun 17, 2020 02:26

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Goddamn this series rocks

# ? Jun 17, 2020 02:35

QueenOfTheEvening: Jan 6, 2020; by Athanatos

Avalerion posted:

It's weird how little actually happens book per book (presumably, but we are on chapter 18 and last book had 20 so I figure they get rescued/escape here but that's it for this one too). It works in thread format where we just move to the next one right away but I wonder how this was received back then, seems like it would be easy for kids to loose interest between books.

cptn_dr posted:

I think because they came out once a month, it was just serialised enough to keep kids hooked. Worked for me, at least.

I think the other thing to remember is that kid lit/YA books just were different back in those days. Most books for kids were short and sweet pre-Potter, whether its because nobody thought kids could handle a longer book or just because they were trying to keep more product on a shelf or what. Its why every one of these feels, roughly, like an episode of a saturday morning cartoon: Problem, solution, complication, fight, resolution. See you next weekend.

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QueenOfTheEvening posted:

because nobody thought kids could handle a longer book

This is literally the case. Most publishers tossed Rowling out the door because the first HP book was "far too long" for kids to read on their own.

# ? Jun 17, 2020 03:15

QueenOfTheEvening: Jan 6, 2020; by Athanatos

My favorite thing from these that I don't ever see anyone mention is, in the latter two-thirds of the series there's a mention of an island out in the harbor that nobody goes near because they hear a ghostly wailing, someone screaming for help where there's no people, and its presented as just an urban legend, and as a kid you accept it as such. Except its obviously not, its David, trapped as a rat, still screaming for help in thoughtspeak, and every time someone tells this ghost story or urban legend or whatever these kids have to relive this awful thing they did. Books were brutal in all kinds of ways.

# ? Jun 17, 2020 03:16

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QueenOfTheEvening posted:

My favorite thing from these that I don't ever see anyone mention is, in the latter two-thirds of the series there's a mention of an island out in the harbor that nobody goes near because they hear a ghostly wailing, someone screaming for help where there's no people, and its presented as just an urban legend, and as a kid you accept it as such. Except its obviously not, its David, trapped as a rat, still screaming for help in thoughtspeak, and every time someone tells this ghost story or urban legend or whatever these kids have to relive this awful thing they did. Books were brutal in all kinds of ways.

They definitely should have just snapped his neck quickly and painlessly.

# ? Jun 17, 2020 03:32

QueenOfTheEvening: Jan 6, 2020; by Athanatos

PetraCore posted:

They definitely should have just snapped his neck quickly and painlessly.

I mean you can't do that a) because these are still books for kids and its way way way too early to have them straight up murder another human on-screen, let alone one that isnt controlled (when they kill Tom at the end, he's in snake form, so they still never explicitly kill a human) and b) you wouldn't get that scene I mentioned! That scene's great!

# ? Jun 17, 2020 05:11

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QueenOfTheEvening posted:

I mean you can't do that a) because these are still books for kids and its way way way too early to have them straight up murder another human on-screen, let alone one that isnt controlled (when they kill Tom at the end, he's in snake form, so they still never explicitly kill a human) and b) you wouldn't get that scene I mentioned! That scene's great!

Oh, yeah, I understand why they don't, I'm just arguing that the most ethical thing to do is not what they actually do, which is pretty par for the course.

# ? Jun 17, 2020 16:42

Epicurius: Apr 10, 2010; College Slice

The Message-Chapter 18

quote:

I opened my eyes. I was staring straight up. I was on my back. Above me I could see the ocean all around. High overhead, fish swam by, sparkling. Higher still I could see the bright bar rier between sea and sky. But it was very far away.

I rolled my head to the side. Jake was beside me, still unconscious. There was blue grass under my head. I looked the other way.

"Yaaaahh!"

<Do not move. I stunned you to see what you are. But if you move, I will destroy you.>

He stood on four delicate hooves, looking, at first glance, like a pale blue and tan deer or antelope. But he had a strong upper body, like a mythical centaur, with two small arms and many-fingered hands. His face was almost triangular, built around two huge, almond-shaped eyes. There was a small vertical slit where his nose should have been, and nothing where his mouth should have been.

From atop his head rose twin horns. Only they were not horns. They each ended in an eye and turned this way and that, independent of his main eyes.
He seemed gentle, quizzical, almost delicate. Until you noticed the tail. The tail was like a scorpion's. It was thick, powerful, and ended in a wicked scythe blade that literally glittered along its razor-sharp edges.

I knew what he was. There is no mistaking an Andalite when you see one.

It's an Andalite!

quote:

And there was no question about what he was holding in his hand, either. It looked a lot like a Yeerk Dracon beam.

He was pointing it at me.

The others were waking up all around me.

"What the ... Oh," Marco said. "Please tell me that's a real Andalite and not Visser Three."

Suddenly, without warning, the Andalite's tail arched forward. The blade stopped inches from Marco's face.

<Visser Three! Do not speak that name!> the Andalite thought-spoke.

"O -o-o-o-kay," Marco said slowly. "Whatever you want."

"We are friends," I said.

<l don't know you,> the Andalite said. But he withdrew his tail and Marco started breathing again.

"You called me," I said. "We've come to help you."

<Called? You heard my call?> He fixed all four of his eyes on me. <What are you?>

"Human. A person of Earth."

<l have seen images of your kind. My call was to my cousins. How did you hear it?>

"I don't know," I admitted. "I heard it in my dreams. So did a friend of mine. We guessed it was an Andalite. We wanted to help."

<What do you know of Andalites? My people are not known to humans. You do not travel the stars. You know only your own planet. My elder cousins have taught me this.>

"We knew one Andalite. We were with him when . . . when he was killed."

The Andalite narrowed his main eyes. <Who was this Andalite you say was killed?>

I searched my memory for his name. He had told us, but it was a strange, long name. "I can't remember all of his name. But part of it was Prince Elfangor."

The Andalite jerked as if he'd been hit. His entire body seemed to quiver. His deadly tail arched high in the air.

<Prince Elfangor? No one could kill Elfangor. He is the greatest warrior ever. No one could kill him!>

"Someone did," Jake said. "We were there."

<Who? Who do you claim killed Elfangor?>

"The one whose name you don't want us to speak," I said softly.

The Andalite held his head high, but his tail sagged and dragged down to the grass. He lowered his weapon. <He was my brother. Did . . . did he die well? In battle?>

Oh. Now, looking back, one of the people in that picture Elfangor had of his family must have been him.

quote:

Jake answered. "He died protecting us, and defying the Yeerks to the end. At the very last moment he struck with every weapon he had."

The Andalite closed his main eyes for a brief moment. <My brother was a great warrior. His cousins loved him. His enemies feared him. No more can be said of any Andalite warrior.>

I was surprised by what Jake said next. "I've lost a brother, too. He's one of them. A Controller."

The Andalite opened his eyes. <And you, human. Do you serve the Yeerks or fight them?>

"I fight them. We fight them."

<With what weapons? Do you have powerful weapons?>

"Only the weapon your brother gave us," I said. "The power to morph."

<Elfangor gave you that? It is never done!> He seemed disturbed. <The situation would have to be very bad for him to give you morphing capability>

"The situation is worse than you think," Marco said. "The Yeerks seem to know you're here. Some piece of Andalite wreckage washed up on shore. They are up on the surface right now."

For the first time the Andalite seemed uncertain. <What is your plan?>

"To get you out of here and hide you," I said.

<You came only to rescue me? This is true?>

"Yes."

He smiled with his eyes, just as Prince Elfangor had done. <You will be tired after this last morph. You will need to rest.>

"A little while, yes," I agreed.

"What is this?" Rachel asked. "This dome, I mean. It's like a park or something."

<This is the main part of an Andalite dome ship. It is where we live. The engines and the war bridge are in a long section that sticks out from the bottom, with this dome perched on top.>

"Like a mushroom. Or an umbrella," I suggested.

The Andalite just looked blank.

"Never mind," I said.

<During the great battle in orbit over your planet, the dome was separated from the rest of the ship.>

"Why?"

The Andalite dug at the grass with his fore- hoof. < I...I was too young for battle, by the laws of our people. Besides, the rest of the ship maneuvers better without the dome.>

"You're a kid? I mean, like a young person?" Marco asked.

<Yes.>

"Are you the only one left? The only Andalite here?"

<Yes. I am alone. When the Blade ship appeared unexpectedly, they caught us off guard. I saw the main section burn. Dracon beams damaged the orbital stabilization of this dome. It fell. It splashed into the ocean and sank to the bottom. I have been here for these many weeks, hoping that my cousins would come for me. Hoping that some survived. Finally I risked sending out a mirrorwave call. It works by . . .> He stopped, and looked embarrassed. <l am not supposed to explain Andalite technology. My brother will ... He would have been angry with me.>

"Just you survived," I said sadly.

<Just me,> he said. <No prince. No warriors.>

I felt a sinking in the pit of my stomach. I think the others felt the same way. I guess we'd all kind of been hoping this Andalite would be like the prince. A leader. Someone who could take over the battle. Someone who would know more than we did.

"We're young, too," I said. "Too young to fight, according to the laws of our people."

<But still you fight!>

"We feel like we don't have a choice. Look, we don't even know your name. This is Jake, Rachel, Marco. I'm Cassie. There's one more. His name is Tobias."

<l am Aximili-Esgarrouth-lsthil.>

We all just kind of stared.

"Ax," Marco said. "Pleased to meet you."

<Who is your prince?>

One by one we looked at Jake.

"Oh, give me a break," Jake said. "I am not anyone's prince."

But the Andalite had stepped forward. He bowed his head and lowered his tail. <I will fight for you, Prince Jake, until I can return to my cousins.>

We've met Ax! Ax the Andalite.

# ? Jun 18, 2020 00:11

cptn_dr: Sep 7, 2011; Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies

It's our boy! The best Animorph!

# ? Jun 18, 2020 00:17

Soup du Jour: Sep 8, 2011; I always knew I'd die with a headache.

And the whole gang is finally together! (don�t call him Prince)

# ? Jun 18, 2020 00:54

Fuschia tude: Dec 26, 2004; THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

Huh, I'd forgotten this is how they get Ax on the team, this late in the series, four books after the crash landing on Earth. Funny which books stay with you decades later.

Avalerion posted:

It's weird how little actually happens book per book (presumably, but we are on chapter 18 and last book had 20 so I figure they get rescued/escape here but that's it for this one too). It works in thread format where we just move to the next one right away but I wonder how this was received back then, seems like it would be easy for kids to loose interest between books.

cptn_dr posted:

I think because they came out once a month, it was just serialised enough to keep kids hooked. Worked for me, at least.

QueenOfTheEvening posted:

I think the other thing to remember is that kid lit/YA books just were different back in those days. Most books for kids were short and sweet pre-Potter, whether its because nobody thought kids could handle a longer book or just because they were trying to keep more product on a shelf or what. Its why every one of these feels, roughly, like an episode of a saturday morning cartoon: Problem, solution, complication, fight, resolution. See you next weekend.

Also, at the end of every one of these books is a preview chapter from the next book, right up to one of its early cliffhangers. So it wasn't all that different from this thread moving to the next one right away.

# ? Jun 18, 2020 08:02

Avalerion: Oct 19, 2012

Ha. I was spoiled on Ax but not the details. The "non human" in a party like this is usually an older and experienced mentor figure who can teach and guide the heroes, here he's being painted as a clueless kid just as out of their depth as the others. That's... not at all what I expected, interesting twist on that trope. :allears:

# ? Jun 18, 2020 08:46

Comrade Blyatlov: Aug 4, 2007; should have picked four fingers

Avalerion posted:

Ha. I was spoiled on Ax but not the details. The "non human" in a party like this is usually an older and experienced mentor figure who can teach and guide the heroes, here he's being painted as a clueless kid just as out of their depth as the others. That's... not at all what I expected, interesting twist on that trope.

How I envy you.

# ? Jun 18, 2020 10:27

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Avalerion posted:

Ha. I was spoiled on Ax but not the details. The "non human" in a party like this is usually an older and experienced mentor figure who can teach and guide the heroes, here he's being painted as a clueless kid just as out of their depth as the others. That's... not at all what I expected, interesting twist on that trope.

Note what he fixates on when explaining things to the team, though! He's not completely unskilled or useless by any means, but I love how his age and grasp of the situation matches the others.

# ? Jun 18, 2020 15:24

feetnotes: Jan 29, 2008

# ? Jun 18, 2020 16:23

Soup du Jour: Sep 8, 2011; I always knew I'd die with a headache.

https://twitter.com/kaaauthor/status/1273646987783680003?s=21

an incredibly well-timed thread

# ? Jun 18, 2020 17:06

Comrade Blyatlov: Aug 4, 2007; should have picked four fingers

I don't see how you could make a good film of it, but hey, give it a go!

# ? Jun 18, 2020 17:50

Avalerion: Oct 19, 2012

Yea, I could see this work as a tv series but as a movie? They'll have to take a lot of liberties.

# ? Jun 18, 2020 18:01

SardonicTyrant: Feb 26, 2016; BTICH IM A NEWT
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They could adopt book 1, big loss and all, and end on a cliffhanger.

It worked for Alita

# ? Jun 18, 2020 18:06

wizzardstaff: Apr 6, 2018; Zorch! Splat! Pow!

Yeah, I don't see how this could be anything other than an introduction to the premise with a big TO BE CONTINUED to maybe tease a franchise. Maybe they get as far as introducing Ax to the team before a big climax, but no way they're fitting the entire series in 120 minutes.

This really should be animated instead of live-action though.

# ? Jun 18, 2020 18:28

Comrade Blyatlov: Aug 4, 2007; should have picked four fingers

The first Megamorphs would probably do alright as a film. Especially if told from the viewpoint of Rachel starting from when she wakes up.

# ? Jun 18, 2020 18:36

Avalerion: Oct 19, 2012

I don�t see them having the restraint to not have Ax in the first movie for one thing.

Even Alita shoved in motor ball early, which did make for a cool action scene but did hurt the pacing i felt.

# ? Jun 18, 2020 18:37

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# ? May 26, 2024 13:55

nine-gear crow: Aug 10, 2013

wizzardstaff posted:

Yeah, I don't see how this could be anything other than an introduction to the premise with a big TO BE CONTINUED to maybe tease a franchise. Maybe they get as far as introducing Ax to the team before a big climax, but no way they're fitting the entire series in 120 minutes.

This really should be animated instead of live-action though.

It�ll probably follow the same flow and format at the Power Rangers movie from a few years back.

# ? Jun 18, 2020 18:37

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