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Vagabong
Mar 2, 2019
The tories realising that if you gently caress up egregiously these days you don't even have admit wrong doing and take a year sabbatical before being quitely accepted back into the party, but can instead deny everything and poo poo out 10 different excuses to muddy the water for a few weeks and get off scot free is worrying.

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Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP
Funny how Boris didn't hear about this issue until today, as it would have been weird if he'd rejected it yesterday.

Rude Dude With Tude
Apr 19, 2007

Your President approves this text.

peanut- posted:

It's not that unbelievable really, I only heard of it from the letter that he published yesterday.

It is slightly unbelievable, given that yesterday the PM's spokesman said that Johnson would respond so presumably had been made aware of it. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jun/15/boris-johnson-rejects-marcus-rashfords-plea-for-free-school-meals-over-summer

edit: ah gently caress

MonkeyLibFront
Feb 26, 2003
Where's the cake?
Random covid 19 RM delivery question, I've had something delivered but the person that's ordered has entered the wrong opening address line, will a tracked delivery say where it's been delivered to or just that it's been delivered as they are saying in the tracking website it will only change status when it's delivered. I hope it's not going to a random place as it's about 150 quids of stuff.

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

MonkeyLibFront posted:

Random covid 19 RM delivery question, I've had something delivered but the person that's ordered has entered the wrong opening address line, will a tracked delivery say where it's been delivered to or just that it's been delivered as they are saying in the tracking website it will only change status when it's delivered. I hope it's not going to a random place as it's about 150 quids of stuff.

Email the seller and ask them to change the address. Sometimes you get a text on the day saying it is due between x and y hours, otherwise itd be up to the seller to refund your stuff because they entered the address in wrong (assuming you can't go to the address and get it/post them a note?)

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Probably won't say, if you know they got the first line wrong can they not tell you what they put themselves?

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP
I think the MDEC system runs off post codes first and foremost, so if that's correct you might be fine.

Jollity Farm
Apr 23, 2010

R.I.P street cat Bob :(

His human is raising funds to permanently honour Bob's legacy, possibly with a statue.

MonkeyLibFront
Feb 26, 2003
Where's the cake?
So my friend who bought it put the first line of my address but the rest is his billing address, he emailed about two hours before he got a dispatch email but no reply, the dispatch email is showing the original error in address. He reckons when he auto filled his phone it repopulated with his address.

We only live about 15 miles away from each other so I may just go knock on doors which is why I was wondering if Royal Mail tracked delivery will show where it was delivered, I'm hoping it'll just be rejected and I'll pick it up from the sorting office.

MonkeyLibFront fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Jun 16, 2020

Rude Dude With Tude
Apr 19, 2007

Your President approves this text.
I've had stuff delivered when the postcode was my home address but all the other information was my office (after it bounced around between delivery offices for a while) so RM might figure it out if it's similar but if it's half and half then you might be screwed and just have to wait for RM to return it as undeliverable?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I've found it, I've found the best thing to come out of JKR's lovely blogpost, a categorical refutation of all the dozen shat out points that terves and tories alike use.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014


Which is ironic, considering cats treat humans like slaves.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

OwlFancier posted:

I wonder what the the choice is between "an opponent who hates you and is transparently evil" and "an opponent who hates you but is institutionally disguised in your own symbology, rhetoric, and gives the appearance of friendship"

It's very obviously a meaningful choice, the former is actively incentivised to escalate force against you while the latter will be forced to hesitate before escalating to a then more limited force against you, because the latter is bound by that shared spectrum of symbology, rhetoric and appearance of friendship because they don't know where exactly their various supporters are on that spectrum so don't know know how hard they can go, it's inherently a limiting factor in their ability to do harm and forcibly stop revolutionary change which the former party doesn't suffer from.

If both parties are bourgeois and hate you, but one is systemically weaker at using the force of the state to crush you because it would be institutionally more hesitant to impose martial law, put the muslims in death camps, impose explicit censorship, BOOTS ON THE GROUND TO PROTECT CHURCHILL (oh that was a spook lol guess we've normalised military police tho), end womens suffrage etc then even if you think electoralism is fake it still benefits you to have the weaker, more bound bourgeois party as your governmental opposition.

And honestly I'm not an anti-accelerationist dude at all but it has to be intellectual and with a plan, "bloo bloo Labour and the tories are both bad so for me it's neither" is weak as gently caress there are obviously marginalised people that would be hurt more by bourgeois tories than bourgeois labour it's loving cruel and lying to pretend otherwise.

Nothingtoseehere posted:

Thanks to capitalisms continued destruction of local communities for not making a profit, for many people work is their main outlet for social interaction - especially those who have had to move for jobs and don't have any roots in a local area. The sudden severing of those connections has cut many people socialization off - primarily single people, whether single parents or just young adults.

Yeah it's kind of sad but even though none of us want to be there, and we all feel a wierd amorphous guilt/fear/anger that we're spreading or contracting the virus for no reason other than to help the shareholders afford more child prostitutes, it has been really nice being around the work friends again this week.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/RavenholmCLP/status/1272926315608506370

The only vote that matters (click through for way too many Brendan O'Neill Heads)

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/francisqcoyle/status/1273001173352697868?s=20

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Yesterday Boris Johnson wanted to be an astronaut, but when faced with the facts that children need food to live, he channeled august economist John Milton Keynes and said "In the long run we are all dead" which is real leadership if you think about it.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
https://twitter.com/jessphillips/status/1273021885115248645?s=20

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

Reading Laura K articles is a vaccine against impostor syndrome

Algol Star
Sep 6, 2010

When I become aware of facts such as 'my sincerely held beliefs aren't playing well with the public despite my best efforts and I'm looking bad' then I 'change my mind'. I think that's the full original quote she's referring to, obviously some nuance was lost down the years.

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

It's like her editor caught the misattribution, but rather than fixing it, she added a completely redundant paragraph explaining that she's wrong in the previous paragraph, and that you, the reader, are a prig for noticing it? Like, just loving retire already.

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

It's very strange that everyone in British politics and media is so deferential to TERFs. Why not just call them dipshits all the loving time? Even the people in Labour who are good about trans rights are too polite to them.

Debbie Does Dagon
Jul 8, 2005



https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3927340

The June Movie of the Month thread might be of interest to some people here. It's Lizzie Borden's Born in Flames (1983), which follows a black lesbian militant group's struggle for workplace equality, in an alternative history NYC in which Socialism has already been realised.

It's also available on archive.org for free!

radmonger
Jun 6, 2011

SunAndSpring posted:

It's very strange that everyone in British politics and media is so deferential to TERFs. Why not just call them dipshits all the loving time? Even the people in Labour who are good about trans rights are too polite to them.

According the the last British social attitudes survey, 41% of those asked were ok with a trans person teaching in primary school.

Does that answer the question?

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Wachter posted:

It's like her editor caught the misattribution, but rather than fixing it, she added a completely redundant paragraph explaining that she's wrong in the previous paragraph, and that you, the reader, are a prig for noticing it? Like, just loving retire already.

She'll only retire from 'journalism' once her book, detailing her passionate affair with "lovable rogue" Alexander de Pfeffel Boris Johnson, has been released, following a 4-part serialisation in the Daily Mail, so that fellow passion-voids can wank themselves to the point of 1% sexual gratification about her description of being mounted like an obese sea lion by Boris and hosed 'boyishly' with his locks of hair splattering her with sweat for every cocaine-induced flaccid thrust.

StratGoatCom
Aug 6, 2019

Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice


Why did you feel the need to give us that mental image? :psypop:

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
I've always assumed she was angling to eventually become Downing Street press officer or something, which means the book would still be useful as blackmail material but we'd never actually see it.

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013
like lmao the dying old guy that the Democrats chose to be their presidential candidate is a far better supporter of trans people than any Labour politician. They’re way too soft on these anti-trans worms, the party has got to get mean about it rather than meekly going “erm yes I can understand why you may have some concerns about the loo being open to trans women but-“

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I think it's unlikely that they'll do that rather than just assume that younger voters will vote for them anyway and desperately chase tories.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






kingturnip posted:

She'll only retire from 'journalism' once her book, detailing her passionate affair with "lovable rogue" Alexander de Pfeffel Boris Johnson, has been released, following a 4-part serialisation in the Daily Mail, so that fellow passion-voids can wank themselves to the point of 1% sexual gratification about her description of being mounted like an obese sea lion by Boris and hosed 'boyishly' with his locks of hair splattering her with sweat for every cocaine-induced flaccid thrust.

What the actual gently caress, I was eating.

E: actually totally unrelated:

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/breeallegretti/status/1273138917936685056?s=20

pitch a fitness
Mar 19, 2010

radmonger posted:

SunAndSpring posted:

It's very strange that everyone in British politics and media is so deferential to TERFs. Why not just call them dipshits all the loving time? Even the people in Labour who are good about trans rights are too polite to them.
According the the last British social attitudes survey, 41% of those asked were ok with a trans person teaching in primary school.

Does that answer the question?

The last British social attitudes survey doesn't ask people about this but does cite the 2017 survey which does. In which, those 41% respondents state 'suitably qualified transgender people definitely should be employed as primary teachers' - there's a further 26% who state 'suitably qualified transgender people probably should be employed as primary teachers'. (12% probably not & 9% definitely not, & I presume 12% no response).

There's some issues with the nature of the question asked. People tend to avoid the end points on scales no matter the question asked, especially where it comes to absolutes (like 'definitely') and there's only one other option to show a positive response. Also this Q could be easily misread/interpreted as something like 'If a suitably qualified transgender person applies for a job they should definitely get it [irrespective of the other candidates]'.

You're painting a bleaker picture than the data reflects - especially through dismissing the 26% as somehow not 'ok' with a transgender person teaching at primary. This doesn't look like a parliament helplessly bound by the public's view but rather a set of influential people cruelly clinging on to a prejudice hoping to control public opinion - don't let them off the hook.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.



Old Danny will have a good laugh with his friend Mike Smalling about this.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol

https://twitter.com/surfacingwater/status/1272872121946058754?s=20

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Also on a personal level I'm not particularly impressed with people transparently recycling the "all gay men are child molesters" argument being given a pass on the basis that "well it's a popular belief"

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
we're a joke of a country

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1272903811745624066?s=20

Eararaldor
Jul 30, 2007
Fanboys, ruining gaming since the 1980's

Well what else could we spend that money on??? Keeping children fed during the summer???????

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Facebook link, but worth it.

https://www.facebook.com/100009221802516/posts/2606455903005111/

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

lmao

pitch a fitness
Mar 19, 2010

OwlFancier posted:

Also on a personal level I'm not particularly impressed with people transparently recycling the "all gay men are child molesters" argument being given a pass on the basis that "well it's a popular belief"

Yeah it's pretty callous to have such a question. The Q itself is drawn up in context of the harassment of Lucy Meadows and the Q's results show little difference to the other Q on being police officers. So it kind of makes sense to ask in a vacuum... but for any question around minority groups, researchers should be way more thoughtful on how outcomes could be interpreted and used.

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Nothing says "secret makeover" like "union jack coloured jet"

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