sebmojo posted:

I just realised that star wars bf2 has a decent single player game! Enjoying zapping the rebel scum.

It's surprising how often I'll be playing something and think this is so much better than star citizen.

Nyast posted:

Note that I never said that SC looked better, only that you took effort in comparing apples vs oranges

I mean, if you look at your two first pictures, the one with the running character from behind in SC and the one in Horizon Dawn Zero.. you can't really say the HD:Z character looks any better than the one in SC. Although it's hard to compare directly, cause one is from the back, so you don't even see his face. You can speak of artistic style ofc, SC characters are generic as gently caress, but in terms of production quality, I wouldn't say these other games are light-years ahead of SC's.


Now if you compare your NPC in Andromeda with another NPC also sitting in a chair in SC:



Point is, some look better, some look worse, but I don't agree with the idea that in-game characters in SC are looking way worse than in recent games.

no_recall posted:

I'm quite surprised why they never thought of going right to left with the symbols. Or top to bottom script.





Star Citizen : free things make them uncomfortable.

bbchops posted:

This is such an incredibly naïve view of EC2. They clearly haven't actually tried any of this.

bbchops posted:

This is such an incredibly naïve view of EC2. They clearly haven't actually tried any of this.

The Titanic posted:

Here's your Star Citizen mission giver npc I could find.

She's talking to the player right now. The player has to move in front of her so she was talking to the player properly.

trucutru posted:

Ok, be honest. Who else thought for a minute that they were watching a screenshot from a film?

The Titanic posted:

But one thing I tried to avoid was the cig trailers, which looks like where you pulled your dude from. Does he actually look like that in the game?

Mr. Peepers posted:

I'm incredibly mad I've found out about that Shipbreakers game now because it's only an EA release and according to their steam page they think they won't be done until 2022. The idea behind it looks SO GOOD but I'm loving tired of burning out on half-finished games.

The Titanic posted:

I for one am depressed that my skin looks more rough than a grizzled war veteran with a robotic leg who works hard labor on a space base.

Inacio posted:

the launcher does not have a launcher button at the moment. it did ask me to allow itself to update, but the launch button didn't come back after that.

trucutru posted:

Have you trying taking selfies out of focus or -if you wear them- smearing some vaseline on your glasses?

Oh, wait, you're a ship!

Inacio posted:

e: it crashed

Inacio posted:

i want to mention that it's noon on a thursday

Beet Wagon posted:

Beet Wagon posted:

This is what miles three jackets looks like for me as of today



Dunno what my settings are, the game crashed before I could check. But probably somewhere between medium and high I guess idk. He looks fine - less of the horrible plasticy-ness that you see on most Star Citizen npcs and pcs - but not like... great. I don't play a lot of games with a big focus on facial fidelity but he's probably on par with like minor npcs in something like Shadow of the Tomb Raider, except maybe a little more smoothly animated in his movement (because of course everything he does is mocapped)?

Inacio posted:

then you're wrong, sorry. this isn't a matter of opinion (even though, in my opinion, SC's artstyle, including human characters, is bad), it's purely technical. CIG can't possibly keep up.

tl;dr: buy an idris

Inacio posted:

i managed to make the launcher button appear.



this number is going up and down.
$40,000 spenders get priority slots?

Nyast posted:

Yep, yep, keep comparing apples and oranges, here an entire list of main characters in cinematics, versus a random mob character in Star Citizen.

I give up on this discussion, logic doesn't seem to apply here.

The Titanic posted:

The dude looks fine to me in a screenshot!

Did he look at you when he's talking or did you have to position yourself to be in his line of sight as he was talking?

It seems like a lot of the videos is the npc is playing a static animation and the player sort of moves themself to be in the line of sight of the guy they're talking to rather than the npc turning or looking to face them.

Nyast posted:

Yep, yep, keep comparing apples and oranges, here an entire list of main characters in cinematics, versus a random mob character in Star Citizen.

I give up on this discussion, logic doesn't seem to apply here.

Nyast posted:

Yep, yep, keep comparing apples and oranges, here an entire list of main characters in cinematics, versus a random mob character in Star Citizen.

I give up on this discussion, logic doesn't seem to apply here.

The Titanic posted:

Don't be that way, I've been playing in your sandbox fairly.

I even said the guy with the jacket with two collars looks ok too!

Cig isn't going to fail at everything. They'll hit something good too, especially in the art department since that's where most of their time, money, and effort seems to go.

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I won't say zero regrets. There are some things I would have done differently if I knew what I know now about the insurance and exchange system. I've got a Pioneer with only 10 year insurance because I couldn't CCU an LTI token into it and a Redeemer with 6 month insurance because I CCU'd my original game package + SQ42 into it. I'll get used to paying insurance on the Redeemer well before the Pioneer becomes a liability, at least.

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Well I have this little dinky plastic card with 2942NOV03 printed on it. Since then i'm in thousands over time. I haven't regretted it once. One day I sat down and though to myself about how fulfilling contributing to Star Citizen development has been for me. I'm tired of games that hype into focus one day, only to disappear or fall into obscurity because of the next big thing showed up. But you know what's been there this whole time, trucking away one failure/problem/30k/patch at a time? Star Citizen.

Worth...every...penny for the pure amount of enjoyment I've received out of this game. Steady on CIG Steady on.
Edit: worth mentioning, if this game were to fall apart tomorrow it would still be worth it from a time spent + enjoyment vs other forms of digital entertainment.

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No. For one simple reason. Before I spend money on ANYTHING, I do research for the positives and negatives. And not pie-in-the-sky, but worst case scenarios, because of this I almost never have buyers remorse. That is because I learned my lesson many years ago after doing an impulse purchase and then realized the only person I should blame at that time was myself. Alot of complaints I see from people totally absolves themselves of the choice they made, when in fact they are the ones who made the choice and there is a metric ton of information and videos for people to judge by.

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I once pre-ordered a AAA title from a known publisher. Had a midnight release for a boxed PC CD game meaning that I couldn't get a refund. It's been 6 years and I still can't play the game because of how broken it was and how it got zero support to get fixed. I paid £50 for the game and it was a big publisher so you'd think it would be finished. I've spent a few hundred on this game and I've got far more fun from it and feel that the hundreds I've spent is worth it.

People try the argument that a publisher forces a studio to release a game, but what good is a game that is still unplayable years after release.

Star citizen has its bugs sure, but I've had memorable moments, unique multiplayer experience, and made friendships. All this from a unfinished "broken" game.

All I have to say is that, if it's done so well in its current state, I can only imagine what it'll be like once it's release ready.

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Absolutely not. If you even for a moment think you shouldn't make the purchase don't.

I have zero regrets simply because I went in with my eyes wide open, with the risks clear to me.

If you are not ok with losing $2500 on a failed project, you should not have bought in.

I've donated $1500, key word donated you aren't buying ships you are receiving ships (and LTI which is more than likely worthless) as a thank you for backing, I backed because I think there is a better than 50% chance this project will see completion and I want to see it done.

If CIG closed its doors tommorow and Chris Roberts were dragged in front of Congress and jailed for a giant ponzi scheme and the game were never finished I would not be mad because I've ACCEPTED the risk.

If you can't accept the risk don't pledge the money.

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Um...yes. $2500 in too. Buy ship. Melt Ship. Upgrade ship. Melt ship. Buyback ship to get LTI, upgrade to new ship. Melt ship again. Rinse and repeat. Promise to stop. Then ship sale shows up and I buy something again. Make me stop. But so glad to be able to do it and support a vision I believe in.

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I do, I backed heavy early on, back when it was the "last time LTI would be sold" (I'm still bitter about that by the way), before the stretch goals morphed from something that were supposed to be added iteratively and not impact the release, to crippling scope creep and excuses for missed deadlines, before CIG scrapped god knows how much money in subcontractor work due to poor oversight, before several cycles of re-doing their own work due to what feels like directionless leadership, before "weeks not months", and "answer the call 2016". If I knew then what I know now I would have never backed at the level I have.

I would have still backed though. The game still has potential to be everything I want in a space sim. I'm still more fulfilled doing commodities shipping in Star Citizen's buggy hellscape than in Elite Dangerous (most of the time). And, honestly I do still occasionally throw some more money in for this or that, although it's rare and with an entirely different perspective.