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falz posted:1) Durability of Ikea. (cabinets, and counter?). Somewhat mitigated as they sell the same product line for many years, so replacement may be easy. It's not going to become a treasured family heirloom but unless you get sick of it IKEA stuff will easily last decades with minimal effort on your part. I've got a basic IKEA dresser that's old enough to vote.
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Relevant Tangent posted:It's not going to become a treasured family heirloom but unless you get sick of it IKEA stuff will easily last decades with minimal effort on your part. I've got a basic IKEA dresser that's old enough to vote. It definitely depends on what kind of product it is though. I'm the same with a dresser and nightstand I got nine years ago, but I wouldn't trust a table or desk with anything heavy on it, and definitely not a sofa. I had a bed which amazingly didn't have any major issues, but you could tell it was pretty drat cheap. I really like the Ikea Myrbacka latex mattress as I like my mattress very firm and I don't want to "sink" into it like with memory foam. I got the same model when upgrading to a queen size bed.
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Jun 17, 2020 18:11
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I've been using the same 2 IKEA desk tops and the shelf-like desk legs for the past 12, 13 years. The veneer is JUST starting to chip on the desktop where I usually sit, but I've moved house with them 4 or 5 times and sit big giant monitors on them and such. I have a monitor arm clamped to the back of one with a 20" cintiq drawing screen tablet on it and while it definitely gets marked up a bit, the utility hasn't faltered one bit. v v
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Jun 17, 2020 18:23
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Re: Ikea, thanks. I have had dressers and tv stands for years without issue, just no kitchen stuff which I'd presume takes more abuse. I also redid a closet with their closet stuff and it's been great. I'm likely to go forward with that after getting a competing quote from a local place that's supposed to be reasonably priced and imports everything from eastern Europe or something. This may have been a better question for the home improvement thread, will ask there too.
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I have a kitchen remodel planned for (hopefully) next year and have been reading a lot about kitchen cabinets. I seem to keep running into the stories of the builder who you'll hire to install your brand name $$$$$ kitchen cabinets that then puts Ikea cabinets into their own home. Perhaps they're apocryphal but looking at something like falz's kitchen from the 80's, those cabinets are probably made of MDF too and they've definitely held up and still look fine but are now going to be replaced because they're out of style. Any cabinet is going to crumble to dust if it's exposed to water long-term, doesn't matter if its MDF or plywood. I am personally considering the route of Ikea cabinet boxes and then fronts from someplace like semihandmade to give it a most custom look.
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If you have stuff from Ikea that survived ten or fifteen years, it is representative of the quality Ikea put out ten or fifteen years ago.
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Jun 17, 2020 20:38
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Flipperwaldt posted:If you have stuff from Ikea that survived ten or fifteen years, it is representative of the quality Ikea put out ten or fifteen years ago. The quality of our newer Ikea stuff seems better than the quality of our 8-10 year old stuff though.
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I just got a bed and dresser from ikea last year and it was pretty loving stout I once assembled flat box furniture for a living so I've seen a range of qualities
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Jun 17, 2020 21:01
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mcmansion: all of the above
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Sirotan posted:but looking at something like falz's kitchen from the 80's, those cabinets are probably made of MDF too and they've definitely held up and still look fine but are now going to be replaced because they're out of style. Any cabinet is going to crumble to dust if it's exposed to water long-term, doesn't matter if its MDF or plywood. This is correct, the shelves/boxes of my cabinets are mdf with laminate, the front facing stuff (doors, frame(?)) appear to be actual wood. Worth noting that ikea DOES change some drawer models at times, but I suspect the hole pattern used inside of the cabinet frames stays the same so if one wanted to switch out the internals of something at a later time, it's still do-able. Or most importantly, just buy a few extra shelves in case something breaks or gets wet.
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Jun 17, 2020 21:22
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I mean I know there are some savings since you assemble it yourself, and because Ikea just has huge volumes, but they have to be skimping on something to get you poo poo that cheap.
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Jun 17, 2020 22:16
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When I bought cabinets, Ikea was actually a little more expensive than other options. MDF cabinets are just not that expensive if you're assembling on-site.
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brugroffil posted:The quality of our newer Ikea stuff seems better than the quality of our 8-10 year old stuff though.
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Flipperwaldt posted:I'm just making the argument that it's not really meaningful to roll out the testimonials of the family heirloom Ikea pieces. Ikea will look at all their products periodically and redesign from the ground up if necessary to save cents on production and transport, while keeping the look and name. The Klippan you buy today isn't the Klippan of 5 years ago, which isn't the Klippan you could buy 10 years ago. Some of their stuff turns more cardboardy in the process and sometimes the finish isn't as nice. Ok. It's still a good counterpoint to the people saying they'd never put a TV on an Ikea cabinet or whatever nonsense.
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Jun 17, 2020 22:45
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brugroffil posted:Ok. Even within Ikea there are good/better/best models If it's advertised for a tv it will be fine for a tv
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Jun 17, 2020 22:54
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Just don't buy any furniture you haven't seen in person and don't necessarily expect to get away with it remarkably cheap and you'll absolutely be fine in Ikea too.
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Jun 17, 2020 23:18
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Flipperwaldt posted:Just don't buy any furniture you haven't seen in person and don't necessarily expect to get away with it remarkably cheap and you'll absolutely be fine in Ikea too. True. I wanted Ikea's svalnas shelf system until I played with it in person. The basic shelves were fine but any moving parts like drawers and cupboard doors were just too flimsy to contemplate. I'd rather take a couple of years to eBay enough ladderax to do a good job of it.
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there wolf posted:When I bought cabinets, Ikea was actually a little more expensive than other options. MDF cabinets are just not that expensive if you're assembling on-site. Ikea does seem cheap but adds up when you add doors, drawers, and other options. Still a winner in my book as they have a lot of well thought out storage options that fit together nicely.
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actionjackson posted:I mean I know there are some savings since you assemble it yourself, and because Ikea just has huge volumes, but they have to be skimping on something to get you poo poo that cheap.
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based on how real estate photography works, i can only assume that door is about 3" wide
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Jun 18, 2020 03:36
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Ok now switch it to Inner Glow.
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Jun 18, 2020 03:45
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for sale other half of bed never used
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Jun 18, 2020 04:23
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Is that the bedroom portion of doom-bathroom?
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Nessus posted:The meatballs are 70% horse by volume You say that as if it were a bad thing.
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Jun 18, 2020 12:02
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PRADA SLUT posted:for sale Ouch. (also true)
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falz posted:Re: Ikea, thanks. I have had dressers and tv stands for years without issue, just no kitchen stuff which I'd presume takes more abuse. I also redid a closet with their closet stuff and it's been great. If you build them correctly (supply your own wood glue) and pick things made of actual wood, with no other materials or moving parts, their regular furniture will last fine. Also helps if you don’t move home a bunch, though it’s more often owned by younger people who move often. Their product ranges seem to include reasonably well designed, simple, solid wood stuff, and also lots of pressboard / cardboard junk that doesn’t hold up nearly as well, will survive no house moves, and isn’t all that much cheaper.
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gschmidl posted:You say that as if it were a bad thing. People getting all upset that they get a higher quality meat by surprise.
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gschmidl posted:You say that as if it were a bad thing.
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Is there such a thing as an attractive filing cabinet? Or one that looks less like just a sheet metal box?
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The Bloop posted:apparently the word I meant to say was "stringer" not riser It's the only thing that makes sen......AHAHAHAHA......sorry. Yes. MetaJew posted:Is there such a thing as an attractive filing cabinet? Or one that looks less like just a sheet metal box? Make it out of wood, you can make it hella nice.
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MetaJew posted:Is there such a thing as an attractive filing cabinet? Or one that looks less like just a sheet metal box? Your definition of attractive is working against you really hard here so I'll say: no.
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There are some from Uplift or poppin that look a little better than your traditional Office Max cabinet if you want to go that route.
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Jun 18, 2020 23:58
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Allmodern has some decent looking filing cabinets. BlueDot has some gorgeous ones, but hah at paying $700 for a small one with two drawers.
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MetaJew posted:Is there such a thing as an attractive filing cabinet? Or one that looks less like just a sheet metal box? For wood: https://www.dwr.com/workspace-storage-shelving/line-file-credenza/1020.html?lang=en_US
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I feel the need to post this here: https://www.redfin.com/MI/Cassopolis/20451-Cara-Ave-49031/home/111085938    e: also this may be slightly overbuilt for the area - https://www.redfin.com/MI/Kalamazoo/10463-W-H-Ave-49009/home/96347600  
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Youth Decay posted:https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/291-Boland-St-Sparta-GA-31087/235719569_zpid/ A 4500+sf 1918 Arts and Crafts house on an acre of land, in a historic town equidistant between Atlanta and Augusta, used as a residence/artist retreat in recent years, for sale for $157,000. Can you guess why it's so cheap? My parents have a lakehouse across from the Sparta side of the lake, and while I usually enjoy dunking on how very, incredibly, and completely racist Sparta is ( Hancock county is 15% white and they hold all the political power. They sent deputies to the houses of black voters telling them they had to show up in court to prove their residency or lose their voting rights) that's actually a pretty reasonable price for a house in that location. "Halfway between Atlanta and Augusts" is loving nowhere; it's a 2hr drive to get there and then you aren't even on the lake. There is no demand except by the people who already live and are employed in that area, and the big employer is the state prison.
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