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ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus

hakimashou posted:

Depending on what kind of magic the cult has that the cultists are from, they might put some crystals in or something and they can have a new workbench in the hideout the ENCHANTMENT ALTAR where you can combine some unenchanted item and the crystal and it will produce an enchanted item of the same item by enchanting it.

I love that they actually thought what this game needed was a bunch of crazy npc rats jumping out of bushes and poo poo to stab you in the back. Why not just randomly spawn rakes all over the ground in every level to smack you in the face and take off 50hp a hit. Would be just as fun.

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InevitableCheese
Jul 10, 2015

quite a pickle you've got there
You know what this game needs? NPC hatchlings.

Mondian
Apr 24, 2007

ChesterJT posted:

Why not just randomly spawn rakes all over the ground in every level to smack you in the face

:five:

Canadian Surf Club
Feb 15, 2008

Word.
loving this wipe so far, great changes all around. anything that makes the "mid-game" stretch out longer is going to lead to a healthier diversity of what you seen in each raid.

I really appreciate tarkov as a game you can gradually pick at and gain little bits of progress, whether it's skills, stash money, weapon/armor hordes, or whatever else. I don't play every day, but feel like I can usually complete or get good progress on a quest each time I play. I definitely feel like I get "good raid days" and "bad raid days". I don't expect to complete everything in my hideout for months and months, which is actually good. I'm on standard and don't intend on upgrading because it feels like the progress is way more rewarding than EOD.

A lot of the recent key changes were mentioned as a way to combat RMT and are only temporary by Nikita on reddit

edit: I do wish they would add a phone number validation per account, similar to what CSGO did. It was a good change that cut into the number of hackers significantly from what I remember

Canadian Surf Club fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Jun 20, 2020

Mesadoram
Nov 4, 2009

Serious Business

ShowTime posted:

I fixed it.



F



:smug:

Pale Sickly Trevor
Sep 28, 2001
a few days ago I got the Jack O Lantern helmet as a twitch drop... i was level 6 and didn't realize how valuable it was on the flea so I sold it to a trader

Just checked and it goes for 43 million rubles :negative:

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Pale Sickly Trevor posted:

a few days ago I got the Jack O Lantern helmet as a twitch drop... i was level 6 and didn't realize how valuable it was on the flea so I sold it to a trader

Just checked and it goes for 43 million rubles :negative:

twitch tv.com drops arent enchanted so you cant sell them on the flea mkt

idiotsavant
Jun 4, 2000
Also there’s at least a small chance that 43m rubles is some kind of money trade

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
prob the one nerd who figured out how to cheat enchantments onto items or something

maybe you can get it from scav box or something?

rap music
Mar 11, 2006

I guess I’m done with customs but learning new maps scares me :ohdear:

Looks like woods and factory are next in the quest order

ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus

rap music posted:

I guess I’m done with customs but learning new maps scares me :ohdear:

Looks like woods and factory are next in the quest order

Woods is a poo poo show. Lots of getting sniped from a bush, never seeing it coming. I love factory, lots of quick raids, close quarter battles, good places to hide. Loot isn't great though.

I had a moment where I found a thing I thought I could flip for some quick cash then I remembered you can't sell poo poo from vendors and that I hate nikita.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Is it possible if we could somehow create a "goon" uniform?

We keep shooting each other :smith:

Jarf
Jun 25, 2006

PLATINUM



Gabriel S. posted:

Is it possible if we could somehow create a "goon" uniform?

We keep shooting each other :smith:

They should sell helmet covers like the arm bands.

Then we can all be purple helmets :v:

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Gabriel S. posted:

Is it possible if we could somehow create a "goon" uniform?

We keep shooting each other :smith:

Last wipe we did a Bunch of raids with a "uniform", 6B3TM, Ratnik, Berkut, Vepr Hunter.

The most fun though was going in as a 5 stack to interchange all wearing Killa Armor, Triton, Killa Helm and his gun(s) 4 with RPKs and I brought the PP-19 Zenit. We all filled our pockets with grenades and a Labs Keycard. Sprinted to mid mall and immediately wiped by some guy who was sherpaing his friends. It was good fun.

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
all going usec and going the white shirt with mk3 rig+real armor or 3-m armor with a white armband and just don't shoot white wearers is pretty good, me and the fam do that when we factory

fennesz
Dec 29, 2008

ShowTime posted:

I fixed it.



F

Holy poo poo dude! That drop is nuts!

TheTofuShop posted:

Last wipe we did a Bunch of raids with a "uniform", 6B3TM, Ratnik, Berkut, Vepr Hunter.

The most fun though was going in as a 5 stack to interchange all wearing Killa Armor, Triton, Killa Helm and his gun(s) 4 with RPKs and I brought the PP-19 Zenit. We all filled our pockets with grenades and a Labs Keycard. Sprinted to mid mall and immediately wiped by some guy who was sherpaing his friends. It was good fun.

He also posted it to reddit which was pretty funny.

Miguel Prado
Nov 5, 2008

Don't worry, like they say " It's all good! "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5kseiw7KMU

South
Apr 9, 2001

I am the highest paid lifeguard in the world. Love me.
Looks like something has been changed. All of my quest rewards and some of my drops from the Twitch event have expired.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

South posted:

Looks like something has been changed. All of my quest rewards and some of my drops from the Twitch event have expired.

yeah one of the many lovely vandalisms they did this execrable wipe was to make it so quest rewards expire after 48 hrs

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

hakimashou posted:

yeah one of the many lovely vandalisms they did this execrable wipe was to make it so quest rewards expire after 48 hrs

what the gently caress?

also unless something is bugged on my end it appears there is no way to acquire 5.45 BS from vendors at the moment - the hot rod trade is gone, and I don't see it for sale from Prapor anymore

fennesz
Dec 29, 2008

LGD posted:

what the gently caress?

also unless something is bugged on my end it appears there is no way to acquire 5.45 BS from vendors at the moment - the hot rod trade is gone, and I don't see it for sale from Prapor anymore

Did the Hot Rod > BS trade this morning. So it's there unless they hotfixed it.

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

fennesz posted:

Did the Hot Rod > BS trade this morning. So it's there unless they hotfixed it.

I did it yesterday as well, but it's not there now (I was going to sell hot rods and was wondering why they were 8k) and (while hardly conclusive) the Tarkov wiki page shows the same thing:

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/5.45x39_mm_BS

otoh it's totally possible it'll be back tomorrow, hard to know if it's an intentional change or just someone loving up when hotfixing ammo prices

InevitableCheese
Jul 10, 2015

quite a pickle you've got there
Is there a reason to not pickup rewards immediately?

I guess stash space if that’s an issue.

mysteryberto
Apr 25, 2006
IIAM
Is head bob at a minimum of .2 a new change or has it been around? Head bob in video games makes me a bit queasy.

Fingat
May 17, 2004

Shhh. My Common Sense is Tingling



This happened the other day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ9wjPu6UYY

ShowTime
Mar 28, 2005
So drops are definitely not connected. I've gotten 5-6 drops that haven't shown up on my Twitch notifier. I just checked my account before going to bed and found some ammo and a 219 key that didn't show up in my Twitch drops. Maybe they eventually will. For now though, i'd check your Tarkov inventory before your Twitch drops.

Bucnasti
Aug 14, 2012

I'll Fetch My Sarcasm Robes

ShowTime posted:

So drops are definitely not connected. I've gotten 5-6 drops that haven't shown up on my Twitch notifier. I just checked my account before going to bed and found some ammo and a 219 key that didn't show up in my Twitch drops. Maybe they eventually will. For now though, i'd check your Tarkov inventory before your Twitch drops.

There is a delay before you get a twitch notification, but eventually everything I’ve had dropped showed up on my twitch profile.

Idiot Doom Spiral
Jan 2, 2020
I don't even play this game anymore, but it still rules:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg2ng4iueFc

Lemon
May 22, 2003

Idiot Doom Spiral posted:

I don't even play this game anymore, but it still rules:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg2ng4iueFc

:laffo: and I just got 120 rounds of 7n39 as a Twitch drop, looks like I'm gonna be trying those out today.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

InevitableCheese posted:

Is there a reason to not pickup rewards immediately?

I guess stash space if that’s an issue.

They expire after some time, I've even seen some stuff floating around that the timer could be as short as 48 hours

idiotsavant
Jun 4, 2000

hakimashou posted:

yeah one of the many lovely vandalisms they did this execrable wipe was to make it so quest rewards expire after 48 hrs

I noticed that, but it looks like the Twitch drops expire without any warning. Rip tactec

fennesz
Dec 29, 2008

Idiot Doom Spiral posted:

I don't even play this game anymore, but it still rules:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg2ng4iueFc

Here I would have chalked it up to somehow fragmenting after it penetrates armor. But it's also clearly doing 70 thorax damage to no armor. I guess that explains a lot of Killa's lethality.

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

fennesz posted:

Here I would have chalked it up to somehow fragmenting after it penetrates armor. But it's also clearly doing 70 thorax damage to no armor. I guess that explains a lot of Killa's lethality.

based on this, and a rant by pestily recently, I'm starting to questions how worthwhile armor is as far as cost/benefit goes. seems like kirasa + a peen helm is the way to go until you can afford Level 6 consistently.

edit: by kirasa I mean the 6B level 3

Famethrowa fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Jun 22, 2020

fennesz
Dec 29, 2008

Famethrowa posted:

based on this, and a rant by pestily recently, I'm starting to questions how worthwhile armor is as far as cost/benefit goes. seems like kirasa + a peen helm is the way to go until you can afford Level 6 consistently.

edit: by kirasa I mean the 6B level 3

It's still worthwhile. I've encountered one player firing Igolnik so far this wipe. A handful of people firing BS, many of which killed me.

The overwhelming majority will never see this video and will happily trick out their AK and load it up with PS.

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

fennesz posted:

It's still worthwhile. I've encountered one player firing Igolnik so far this wipe. A handful of people firing BS, many of which killed me.

The overwhelming majority will never see this video and will happily trick out their AK and load it up with PS.

personally, I'd rather run a level 3 + rig, or a level 4 armored rig, and block a good number of PS bullets (and say welp if a BP/BT gets me!) + hope for a nice ricochet off my peen.

I'd rather not spend 20-30k extra on a level 4 or 5 and have to spend the outrageous repair costs on ceramic just for the minor amount of protection.

I'm a weekend warrior though, so I'm not exactly rolling in cash.

idiotsavant
Jun 4, 2000
It feels like there are still enough players using lovely ammo that a 6b3 armored rig is worth it. Not sure how quickly that will be coming to an end, though.

This is my first fresh wipe; do they normally go this fast? I’ve been playing a lot but not crazy furloughed/wfh amounts and I’m a pretty mediocre FPS player, but I’m pretty much done with Hideout/traders and have enough of a bankroll that tedious quests aren’t a horrible, money-burning grind.

It’s actually kinda interesting - grinding a lot of these quests when I started mid-wipe last wipe was pretty miserable. You run into dorms to pick up Prapor’s sippy cup and man purse and get obliterated by Gearlord #15 for the sixth time in a row, and scrabble and scrape just to get by on scav runs. Starting with a fresh wipe and mostly level playing field it’s actually fun - like, “Oh, shoot a bunch of stuff with shotguns? Cool, I can get a bunch of cheap AP-20 from Jaeger and just grab a 153 off flea” and when I die miserably I can just heal up and do it again.

Not meant as a humblebrag, but it’s been a huge difference to have a decent amount of game knowledge and a fresh start.

Tarandis
Jun 16, 2012
Level 4 armor is still really good if, like me and most of us, you're bad enough to get shot by bad players and scavs with some regularity. If you just instantly delete bad players and scavs, yeah, save your money I guess.

idiotsavant
Jun 4, 2000
PS cheap level 5 (that repairs for poo poo but whatever) is to barter Ragman 2 gold chains and 3 coffee for a gzhel. Should end up around 90-100k if you watch flea for good prices.

Another question for people - is there anything worth crafting for later-game that isn’t basically ammo, moonshine, or mag cases? I’ve been making hoses in the lavatory between mag cases but that seems to be heading to a revenue-neutral point. Making sugar in nutrition unit when I have chocolate and cigs for the M1A barter. Salewas in med unit for the 10-15% profit. It seems like there’s a point where you’re better off just selling raw materials on flea vs mucking around in the hideout though; like the time cost just isn’t worth it.

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

I mean ultimately those are the things that retain demand once everyone’s hideout is upgraded because they’re either consumable and/or have high vendor prices (and leverage a material you produce via fuel consumption)

depending on prices some other precursor materials can be worth it - Eagle Gunpowder generally is generally worth it for example, sometimes bleach depending on prices (not atm though), sometime aquamari

there’s a hideout rentability calculator spreadsheet floating around that can calculate this for you, though it’s data importation seemed whacked last time I checked so you’ll want to either double-check the math and/or manually update prices for things you’re considering making locally

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fennesz
Dec 29, 2008

idiotsavant posted:

PS cheap level 5 (that repairs for poo poo but whatever) is to barter Ragman 2 gold chains and 3 coffee for a gzhel. Should end up around 90-100k if you watch flea for good prices.

Another question for people - is there anything worth crafting for later-game that isn’t basically ammo, moonshine, or mag cases? I’ve been making hoses in the lavatory between mag cases but that seems to be heading to a revenue-neutral point. Making sugar in nutrition unit when I have chocolate and cigs for the M1A barter. Salewas in med unit for the 10-15% profit. It seems like there’s a point where you’re better off just selling raw materials on flea vs mucking around in the hideout though; like the time cost just isn’t worth it.

Mag case crafting is virtually dead by the way. The only reason it was good into late last wipe is because metal scissors held constant at 50K a piece. Now that they're also used in the scav junkbox craft they go for 100k a pop and it's just not worth the time to craft anymore.

There seems to be a lot more things you can craft, but like you said the profit margin is so slim no one really bothers. I'm still only at 16 GPU's and my passive income is still high enough I was able to buy 7 GPU's yesterday with just a few decent runs plus unloading my ammo crafts.

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