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Kevin DuBrow
Apr 21, 2012

The uruk-hai defender has logged on.

Blistex posted:

"Very hesitant" is putting it lightly. Some universities, companies, and government offices have to make blood donation mandatory since there is such an aversion to it, which is nothing compared to organ donation. The predominant feeling that I picked up in China is that signing up for organ donation is tempting the fates and basically asking them to cause you to die younger than you should. Being an organ donor is like putting a big target on your back and asking for something bad to happen. There is a (imo) greater than 99% chance that any organ you receive in or from China was without the consent of the original owner.

Is this feeling something that Chinese people expressed to you? Are they saying that a doctor wouldn’t fight as hard for your life if they know they can harvest your organs? I thought that the reluctance for donating organs had to do more with spiritual/cultural importance placed on the body.

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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Alan Smithee posted:

korean blood death

The first Korean doctor I went to helpfully explained the reason was Koreans have different biology than foreigners so foreign blood won't work. He also couldn't help with my sinus infection because he'd only studied Korean biology and didn't know how to treat a foreigner.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
do people there still espouse fan death theory

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Unless there's been a massive change in the past couple years, oh yeah. I had not heard of fan death and mentioned sleeping with a fan on at work and it was like a week long drama of people bringing printouts and begging me to stop using a fan before I got sick or died. I repeatedly explained I have slept with a fan my entire life and it's fine. Glad they forgot about it over that weekend and went back to the normal daily "you can use chopsticks?" conversation.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

A4R8 posted:

America is not a democracy

look @ guy who can't tell freedom house from waffle house

Grand Fromage posted:

The first Korean doctor I went to helpfully explained the reason was Koreans have different biology than foreigners so foreign blood won't work. He also couldn't help with my sinus infection because he'd only studied Korean biology and didn't know how to treat a foreigner.

Remo Williams was a documentary

Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Jun 22, 2020

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Kevin DuBrow posted:

Is this feeling something that Chinese people expressed to you? Are they saying that a doctor wouldn’t fight as hard for your life if they know they can harvest your organs? I thought that the reluctance for donating organs had to do more with spiritual/cultural importance placed on the body.

There's a lot of superstition against 'tempting fate' with death in China, all the aversion to the number 4 is about that because the word for the number four sounds like the word for death.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Grand Fromage posted:

Unless there's been a massive change in the past couple years, oh yeah. I had not heard of fan death and mentioned sleeping with a fan on at work and it was like a week long drama of people bringing printouts and begging me to stop using a fan before I got sick or died. I repeatedly explained I have slept with a fan my entire life and it's fine. Glad they forgot about it over that weekend and went back to the normal daily "you can use chopsticks?" conversation.

im honestly surprised there isn't a K Horror about fan death tho maybe there is I dont claim to know them all

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Alan Smithee posted:

im honestly surprised there isn't a K Horror about fan death tho maybe there is I dont claim to know them all

The funny thing is there is actually one very specific case where fans can be dangerous, if the heat index in the room is high enough you can basically turn your bedroom into a convection oven. But if you're using an air conditioner (another sickness-inducing technology in East Asia) that will never be an issue.

Shadow0
Jun 16, 2008


If to live in this style is to be eccentric, it must be confessed that there is something good in eccentricity.

Grimey Drawer

Grand Fromage posted:

My blood bank experience in Asia was going in once to donate in Korea and being told I wasn't allowed because "Koreans can't use foreign blood".

They're being overdramatic. Lace it 50/50 with corn syrup and it's identical.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

I had the opposite thing.

When I returned to Australia from being in Korea the first time about 7 years ago, I tried to give blood at the Red Cross. But they wouldn't let me because I had been in Korea too soon.

I didn't even try after I returned from China.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Grand Fromage posted:

Unless there's been a massive change in the past couple years, oh yeah. I had not heard of fan death and mentioned sleeping with a fan on at work and it was like a week long drama of people bringing printouts and begging me to stop using a fan before I got sick or died. I repeatedly explained I have slept with a fan my entire life and it's fine. Glad they forgot about it over that weekend and went back to the normal daily "you can use chopsticks?" conversation.

but you see fans destroy oxygen molecules and you suffocate its how all of those korean stars die!

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


ded posted:

but you see fans destroy oxygen molecules and you suffocate its how all of those korean stars die!

It does have its utility as a face-saving excuse for suicide/alcohol poisoning.

There's also the thing about keeping windows open when the heater is on. That actually has a sensible basis, heating systems were just burning coal/wood/charcoal and people dropped like flies in winter from carbon monoxide poisoning. They actually mandated the window thing during the Park Chung-hee era to deal with the problem IIRC. Unfortunately, people forgot the actual reason behind it and it turned into "grandma said" wisdom, so now they still keep all the windows open while the electrical heater is on and doing nothing.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Grand Fromage posted:

It does have its utility as a face-saving excuse for suicide/alcohol poisoning.

There's also the thing about keeping windows open when the heater is on. That actually has a sensible basis, heating systems were just burning coal/wood/charcoal and people dropped like flies in winter from carbon monoxide poisoning. They actually mandated the window thing during the Park Chung-hee era to deal with the problem IIRC. Unfortunately, people forgot the actual reason behind it and it turned into "grandma said" wisdom, so now they still keep all the windows open while the electrical heater is on and doing nothing.

I leave the window open whilst the heater is on in my current bedroom.

Due to the fact that I am now back living with my parents, and my parents are stupid old people who turn the heater on full blast the second it gets a touch chilly. Also because I am soft and indolent because living in an enclosed room/house with the heater on and no fresh air gives me a headache.

Shadow0
Jun 16, 2008


If to live in this style is to be eccentric, it must be confessed that there is something good in eccentricity.

Grimey Drawer

BrigadierSensible posted:

I had the opposite thing.

When I returned to Australia from being in Korea the first time about 7 years ago, I tried to give blood at the Red Cross. But they wouldn't let me because I had been in Korea too soon.

I didn't even try after I returned from China.

I have never been able to donate blood because every year I go to Korea, and every time they have a check box "Have You Been to One of These Places Within a Year?" with Korea on the list. Apparently it's a risk area for Yellow Fever? I thought it was some kind of joke, but they deny me every time.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


In any case, being restricted because of diseases is quite different than being rejected because foreigners are biologically incompatible with the Korean species.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Shadow0 posted:

I have never been able to donate blood because every year I go to Korea, and every time they have a check box "Have You Been to One of These Places Within a Year?" with Korea on the list. Apparently it's a risk area for Yellow Fever? I thought it was some kind of joke, but they deny me every time.

Haier's influence knows no bounds

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Kevin DuBrow posted:

Is this feeling something that Chinese people expressed to you? Are they saying that a doctor wouldn’t fight as hard for your life if they know they can harvest your organs?

No.

Kevin DuBrow posted:

I thought that the reluctance for donating organs had to do more with spiritual/cultural importance placed on the body.

They expressed to me the superstitious aspects, rather than any spiritual/cultural importance on the body. Chinese people (generally) don't like talking about death as they see it as tempting fate. While this is a cross-cultural thing, they really take it seriously be in China.

Pro-tip: write your name in red in front of a Korean.

Super-pro-tip: write their name in red.

BrassRoots
Jan 9, 2012

You can play a shoestring if you're sincere - John Coltrane

Grand Fromage posted:

It does have its utility as a face-saving excuse for suicide/alcohol poisoning.

There's also the thing about keeping windows open when the heater is on. That actually has a sensible basis, heating systems were just burning coal/wood/charcoal and people dropped like flies in winter from carbon monoxide poisoning. They actually mandated the window thing during the Park Chung-hee era to deal with the problem IIRC. Unfortunately, people forgot the actual reason behind it and it turned into "grandma said" wisdom, so now they still keep all the windows open while the electrical heater is on and doing nothing.

Nice. I was wondering when this news story would pay off. Fires have chimneys for a reason kids.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-08/two-people-die-at-kurrajong-property-north-of-sydney/6528930

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Shadow0 posted:

I have never been able to donate blood because every year I go to Korea, and every time they have a check box "Have You Been to One of These Places Within a Year?" with Korea on the list. Apparently it's a risk area for Yellow Fever? I thought it was some kind of joke, but they deny me every time.

were you a weird white dude chasing korean girls because you like kpop?

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Grand Fromage posted:

It does have its utility as a face-saving excuse for suicide/alcohol poisoning.

There's also the thing about keeping windows open when the heater is on. That actually has a sensible basis, heating systems were just burning coal/wood/charcoal and people dropped like flies in winter from carbon monoxide poisoning. They actually mandated the window thing during the Park Chung-hee era to deal with the problem IIRC. Unfortunately, people forgot the actual reason behind it and it turned into "grandma said" wisdom, so now they still keep all the windows open while the electrical heater is on and doing nothing.

This is a Taiwanese thing as well. My wife still wants to keep windows open in winter time, and then complains about mosquitos. I have mentioned this several times in this thread.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Blistex posted:

Pro-tip: write your name in red in front of a Korean.

Super-pro-tip: write their name in red.

Super-duper-pro-tip: write "Korea" in red.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


hahhahaaaa

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

McGavin posted:

Super-duper-pro-tip: write "Korea" in red.

:eyepop:

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
I think everyone's missing the point, China's providing the Saudis with Halal organs, it's a Halal market, ok?

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

McGavin posted:

Super-duper-pro-tip: write "Korea" in red.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Write Dokdo in Kanji.

Vesi
Jan 12, 2005

pikachu looking at?
php:
<? Takeshima has always been a part of Japan, not 'Korea'

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Filtration system a marvel to behold. It remove 80 percent of human solid waste.

Shadow0
Jun 16, 2008


If to live in this style is to be eccentric, it must be confessed that there is something good in eccentricity.

Grimey Drawer

Alan Smithee posted:

were you a weird dude chasing korean girls because you like kpop?

Yeah.

WarpedNaba posted:

Write Dokdo in Kanji.

毒島

uguu
Mar 9, 2014


That's a lto of pyung.

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

Team-Red doesn't usually say these things aloud,

Tam Yiu-chung posted:

To a large extent [the law] protects human rights, as it only takes aim at a minority of the population…

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
I dunno, seems pretty common to me

quote:

“People often fail to note that Meng is worth 10 Kovrig & Spavor, if not more,”

quote:

"Any Canadian in China must wonder if they are worth a tenth of a Meng, or a fifteenth or a twentieth if the court goes against her and she is slated for extradition.”

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
No fair the Chinese are revaluing their meng!

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Alan Smithee posted:

No fair the Chinese are revaluing their meng!

I thought it was pegged to the Michael... :thunk:

For cool poo poo that came from China, this portrait AI is pretty neat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSunooUTwKs

The current state of the art comparisons are very :wtc:.



The unnamed country can only pixelate.

McGavin fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Jun 23, 2020

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
That's not cool; it just means their dataset of faces was that much bigger.

oh and tag urself everyone

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
column 3 row 5

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


do the zuck

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
They are the new models for the Goldeneye remake.

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sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost

Shumagorath posted:

That's not cool; it just means their dataset of faces was that much bigger.

oh and tag urself everyone

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