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The backstory they're pushing for Snoke in the comics is that he enticed Ben while acting as the gardener for Luke's new academy right? Even if that blame it in Sith force veiling it whatever that just makes Luke seem like an even bigger idiot and more of a failure.
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Before episode 9 that would have been a good explanation for how his face got all hosed up looking, an epic showdown with Luke where he fled in disgrace
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Jun 21, 2020 00:18
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Mat Cauthon posted:The backstory they're pushing for Snoke in the comics is that he enticed Ben while acting as the gardener for Luke's new academy right? Even if that blame it in Sith force veiling it whatever that just makes Luke seem like an even bigger idiot and more of a failure. I don't think so - Ben visited Snoke on a space station that had a garden in it in one of the comics, but that was right after he fled the academy and it was implied it was the first time they'd ever spoken face to face.
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Jun 21, 2020 00:38
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Snoke would have been a way better character had he not been a Sith lord and was just a regular guy. Let's say he's an Admiral who survived v the Battle of Endor. It would fix almost everything wrong with the First Order and give Kylo a much more interesting arc in the first two movies.
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Jun 21, 2020 09:04
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*rewatches Rise of Skywalker* ...hm, I'm actually starting to enjoy Palpatine, Rey, and Kylo's interactions Forgot about the guy whose first thought when Palpatine is revealed to be alive is casually dropping the fact he's aware of Sith rituals and cloning, and then later translates Sith dialect, rendering the entire fetch quest portion of the movie to Canto Bight levels of relevant You can once again completely ignore literally everything about Finn and lose nothing in terms of understanding the slog that is this movie
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Jun 21, 2020 10:23
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Vinylshadow posted:*rewatches Rise of Skywalker* It's so unbelievably bad. I was watching it with a buddy on Discord last night and I was getting actively angry at how scattershot the whole thing was: The editing, the writing, the cinematography (Jesus Christ, Dan Mindel, you used to be good), the plotting ... Jesus. When Rose said she had to stay home to do homework on Star Destroyers I was so astounded that I wanted to get high (though I don't have weed).
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Jun 21, 2020 10:44
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General Dog posted:Thought about “they fly now?!” the other day and had a little chuckle The "Stay low Chewie" line made me facepalm.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:You could probably make a pretty good story with Ben, brought back to life by the force but stripped of his powers, his title, and his empire, bumming across the galaxy with force ghost Anakin as a mentor, learning more about the nature of the force and what it will take to truly bring peace to the galaxy in the aftermath of the First Order's collapse and the elimination of the New Republic. I'd rather they save this for the Tales of the Jedi trilogy/tv adaptation. I think all this High Republic stuff is really building to that anyway.
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Jun 21, 2020 13:27
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Timby posted:It's so unbelievably bad. I was watching it with a buddy on Discord last night and I was getting actively angry at how scattershot the whole thing was: The editing, the writing, the cinematography (Jesus Christ, Dan Mindel, you used to be good), the plotting ... Jesus. When Rose said she had to stay home to do homework on Star Destroyers I was so astounded that I wanted to get high (though I don't have weed). Rose showed up a lot more than I remembered in this movie - yes, she stayed behind for 60% of the movie, but she then appeared a lot more once they got back from the Filler arc
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Jun 21, 2020 17:32
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MasqueradeOverture posted:Since when did Attack Of The Clones become considered a good movie? At least 18 years ago
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Jun 21, 2020 20:09
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I don't particularly enjoy it because I prefer bro moments and manly tears (eg Farscape) but it's got a bunch of cool and interesting stuff in it
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The new trilogy made me rewatch the prequels and I found then.. good Except Phantom Menace, which is still bad (and still much better than RoS)
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Jun 21, 2020 20:50
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The prequels had a solid story with poor execution
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TPM is a great irony movie. I don’t mean that you should enjoy it ironically, but rather that it's fun to watch with the knowledge that every single person in the movie but Palpatine is loving up big-time
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Jun 21, 2020 20:57
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TPM holds up - the other 2 are complete garbage - esp 3.
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Vintersorg posted:TPM holds up - the other 2 are also pretty good - esp 3.
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From a filmic perspective TPM is an extremely good looking film in general and one of the last blasts at large scale film photography. And also has one of Williams' best scores. And was edited pretty well, especially with the Maul fight since it's only editing and score (and choreography) that makes that interesting at all - the stakes aren't anything we care about. AOTC is much weaker in both. Very ugly early digital photography, a mediocre Williams score, and weird pacing and editing at times. RotS gets better in score and is much better than AOTC, while still not as good as TPM, editing and cinematography and has Sheev hamming it up as opposed to reserved in the other two.
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Darko posted:AOTC is much weaker in both. Very ugly early digital photography, a mediocre Williams score, and weird pacing and editing at times. But “Across the Stars” is the best piece of prequel music
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Jun 21, 2020 21:52
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Revenge of the Sith is my favorite Star Wars score. The expanded version at least. When it kicks into Duel of the Fates...my god. As a kid I lost my poo poo.
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CelticPredator posted:Revenge of the Sith is my favorite Star Wars score. Same but also movie. Of all the Star Wars, Revenge of the Sith is the Star Warsiest.
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Jun 21, 2020 22:56
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Revenge Of The Sith is Top 3 Star Wars. Phantom Menace and Rise Of Skywalker are tied at the bottom for me (Phantom Menace looks nice and blows up the scope of the galaxy, but it fucks up at almost everything else). Attack Of The Clones is close to bottom of the barrel, but at least it's George hilariously unfiltered.
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It rules that every ten days for months someone posts "finally saw ROS what the poo poo" Star Wars ESB TLJ TPM ROTS ROTJ TFA AOTC ROS
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Pretty sure AotC's score suffered because Williams was overworked at the time, with Chamber of Secrets coming out at the same time and having similar issues, plus two other films.
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Jun 22, 2020 00:46
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General Dog posted:But “Across the Stars” is the best piece of prequel music   Across the Stars is about as good as Battle of the Heroes—and by that I mean it's really loving good (my favorite tracks). I was hoping Williams would take cues from Across the Stars and somehow use them to weave Rey and Ben's themes together in TROS, but alas.
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God Tier: - The Empire Strikes Back Messiah Tier: - The Last Jedi - Revenge Of The Sith - A New Hope "Pretty Dope" Tier: - Rogue One - Return Of The Jedi (Theatrical cut) - The Force Awakens "Uh..." Tier: - Return Of The Jedi (Special Edition) - Attack Of The Clones - Solo "Oof" Tier: - The Phantom Menace gently caress Tier: - The Rise Of Skywalker gently caress TROS is so bad gently caress gently caress Nightmare Cinema fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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Perhaps Finn should have died in TLJ since they gave him gently caress all to do in Rise of Skywalker.
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Detective No. 27 posted:Perhaps Finn should have died in TLJ since they gave him gently caress all to do in Rise of Skywalker. Hi john boyega
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Detective No. 27 posted:Perhaps Finn should have died in TLJ since they gave him gently caress all to do in Rise of Skywalker. That’s on JJ.
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STAR WARS FILMS A New Hope Empire Strikes Back Revenge of the Sith Rogue One Return of the Jedi Last Jedi Attack of the Clones Force Awakens Solo Phantom Menace Rise of Skywalker
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General Dog posted:But “Across the Stars” is the best piece of prequel music It is okay for the movie its in and would be great for another movie. As far as its usage in the film, I'll always have a soft spot for when it just starts up full bore and then basically does a record needle stop. As stated, though, that movie just wasn't really scored that well, Williams kind of phoned in the actual scoring and just seemed to work around that singular composition for time's sake.
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MasqueradeOverture posted:God Tier: This is pretty good except move RotS to the bottom of the "Pretty Dope" tier. And remove the RotJ:SE altogether. Something I was wondering: has Star Wars ever had a Jedi Vigilante type character? Like a character who can use the Force and is probably an ex-Jedi but now just travels the galaxy doing good, like a Jedi Batman? Cause I was talking to some friends the other day about how that would have been a good ending for Kylo (tortured soul, doesn't allow himself to be happy, travels the galaxy trying to make up for the horrible things he's done, maybe Jedi Punisher is a more apt comparison), but I don't know enough about the Star Wars EU to know if that's a character that's been done before. The closest thing I can think of to that is Ashoka, but she's not actively trying to be a vigilante (as far as I know - I haven't watched the new season of Clone Wars yet.)
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Does Kyp Durron doing genocides count?
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OldSenileGuy posted:And remove the RotJ:SE altogether. I mean just an example of how much the SE screws that movie.
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Special edition chat is so retro with two other trilogies to gripe about, but I do prefer the laserdisc rip of the first movie. Whatever the going version of ESB and ROTJ is is fine by me, there are big doors and jedi rocks but whatever Funny how ghost Hayden was a big deal but now everyone loves that goofball
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There's also an undercover Corran Horn going vigilante against some pirate gangs in the old EU novel I, Jedi. I really enjoyed that book on its own merits, but it was written in part as a way to throw shade on Kevin J. Anderson's awful Jedi Academy series, so you miss out on some stuff without that context.
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The Special Editions changing Vader's line at the end of ESB and adding in extra stuff where he boards his the star destroyer loving bugs me because it's so pointless. It's not showing off new tech or linking to the prequels or restoring cut stuff, it's just a pointless addition.
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TROS is the Star Wars equivalent to Star Trek Nemesis
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I don't have a problem with the special edition of ROTJ, I was never really attached to the Yub Jub song at the end and the replacement is nice as a trilogy ender. The sarlacc having a little prehensile mouth coming up out of its mouth is dumb but w/e
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Revised Tier List, June 2020 God Tier: OT, Mando Top Tier: TCW, PT High Tier: Rebels, Solo, R1 Mid Tier: ST
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOG7LcBFFRQ "The door of Jabba's Palace was edited to appear larger."
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