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Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.

Choose posted:

There is content and momentum from this specific forum that matter to our community.

As one small example, on any new site, there are no vilerat posts.
This forum's archives are preserved by the Library of Congress. Yes there is value in continuity, if there weren't we'd have already moved, but that continuity is only worth so much if the money is going to create future harm. It's very clear that the threat of everyone leaving anyway is the leverage that got Lowtax to agree to sell. Saying it doesn't matter what was paid is just as absurd as saying a single cent is too much.

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biznatchio
Mar 31, 2001


Buglord

Blue Moonlight posted:

Serious question: any thought about opening some of the site source code up for open-source contributions?

The bulk of the site is still vBulletin code, which they wouldn't be able to open up.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

Chris James 2 posted:

Will C-SPAM stay open? Because it should and yet QCS continue harassing despite repeated mod and admin posts there stressing it'll go nowhere; your final word on this would be greatly appreciated
Yes the large popular subforum will stay open. I'm doing this to *avoid* pointlessly destroying good things.

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

Jeffrey you are the hero we need, not the one we deserve.

Thank you for your service o7

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

GHOST_BUTT posted:

Not to get ahead of ourselves either but an intact community sans lowtax can also put together a legal fund or something with victims' consent whereas a goon diaspora will never be able to organize anything ever

A good idea.

TheRecogScene
Aug 22, 2010

I'm gonna miss you when you're gone.

Peaceful Anarchy posted:

The alternative is Jeffrey migrates everything to another site and we all either follow or leave altogether. Lowtax's leverage is minimal, he's getting paid for everyone's convenience not for any meaningful assets (garbage backend code and a userbase ready to abandon ship is not worth much). I don't expect him to give up the forum for free and I agree that those that do are hoping for something impossible. But that convenience is only worth however many hours it would take Jeffrey to set up an alternative and I hope the amount being paid isn't too high or else those concerns people have about Lowtax profiting from abuse are meaningful and troublesome.

This is basically a better-worded and probably less sanctimonious-sounding version of what I’d meant to say; I expect Lowtax to get paid; I hope it’s not to the tune of the 500K that keeps coming up in the other thread. There was a general vibe in that thread that at that amount people would rather Jeffrey just start a new forum.

Adus
Nov 4, 2009

heck

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Dark mode? New types of embeds? Archives search??? It's a lot easier to justify spending lots of time on a bigger project like the latter now.

YOU CAN GET A DARK MODE RIGHT NOW WITH THE 'STYLISH' ADDON

I AM NOT AFFILIATED WITH THIS ADDON IN ANY OFFICIAL CAPACITY I JUST THINK IT'S NEAT

RuBisCO
May 1, 2009

This is definitely not a lie



Xenoblade loving rules and so do you, Jeffrey.

Thanks for doing your best.

Adus
Nov 4, 2009

heck
also thank you jeffrey. i would hate to lose this community.



now can we please get rid of that loving annoying rear end video on the login page?

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
Can you please make the front page funny again.
Thanks

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread
I am so glad Jeffrey is smart

TheRecogScene
Aug 22, 2010

I'm gonna miss you when you're gone.

GHOST_BUTT posted:

Not to get ahead of ourselves either but an intact community sans lowtax can also put together a legal fund or something with victims' consent whereas a goon diaspora will never be able to organize anything ever

This is also valid and if we can group out-fundraise whatever Lowtax gets paid for this site my qualms about him getting so much money would be way, WAY lower.

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
can you bring back the porn forum, the music downloading forum, and the bittorrent forum

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

OgNar posted:

Can you please make the front page funny again.
Thanks

Also can we actually pay the writers

Grem
Mar 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 25 days!
Jeffrey since PI was a thing all I ever yearned for was to be the mod of pet island. Literally A Bird is a great person and was a great mod but they literally kept me from being a mod there by not ever given up the golden throne, no matter how hard I try. Now that they are gone, nobly, of course, can I be mod of Pet Island? I will be a better mod than whatever pretender you have there now. Or we can co-reign, whatever, I don't care.

BigBadSteve
Apr 29, 2009

I for one welcome our new Overlord.

Thanks for saving SA, Jeffrey, and may mad goons not drive you mad.

Grem
Mar 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 25 days!

Grem posted:

Jeffrey since PI was a thing all I ever yearned for was to be the mod of pet island. Literally A Bird is a great person and was a great mod but they literally kept me from being a mod there by not ever given up the golden throne, no matter how hard I try. Now that they are gone, nobly, of course, can I be mod of Pet Island? I will be a better mod than whatever pretender you have there now. Or we can co-reign, whatever, I don't care.

Oh there's no mod there right now just make me mod of PI

The Grimace
Sep 18, 2005

Are you a BigMac of imbeciles!?
Thank you, Jeffery! I'm very happy to see this place in the hands of someone so interested in it thriving.

My advice is that if things do get expensive after a point, don't be afraid to charge for some kind of services. Nothing major, but given how many avatars are sold here on a regular basis, people are okay with paying towards the forums if they're having fun.

Lucavi
May 12, 2002
answer ur phone

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon

Grem posted:

Jeffrey since PI was a thing all I ever yearned for was to be the mod of pet island. Literally A Bird is a great person and was a great mod but they literally kept me from being a mod there by not ever given up the golden throne, no matter how hard I try. Now that they are gone, nobly, of course, can I be mod of Pet Island? I will be a better mod than whatever pretender you have there now. Or we can co-reign, whatever, I don't care.

same, but for the professional wrestling forum

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
大切な物を protect my balls


Recognition Scene posted:

This is basically a better-worded and probably less sanctimonious-sounding version of what I’d meant to say; I expect Lowtax to get paid; I hope it’s not to the tune of the 500K that keeps coming up in the other thread. There was a general vibe in that thread that at that amount people would rather Jeffrey just start a new forum.

I really don't see a new forum being a good solution. With Jeffrey getting the entirety of Something Awful LLC as from the announcements, than the front page and all the quality content that it contains will still exist. A new forum in some random shithole, isn't going to have the quality flash tubs or the 9/11 star wars or any of that.

Getting control of the Something Awful company is truly the best outcome IMO and I hope Jeffrey can pull it off.

Shitty Wizard
Jan 2, 2013

ASK ME WHY
I VOTED
FOR TRUMP
Can we get more options for extremely annoying avatars now that the two decades and change of either underpaid sidegig "just trying to fix the spaghetti code" programmers or radium tier moron programmers has come to an end? Like scrolling test, blinking text, rotating images - the works?

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


So what's going to happen with the front page? I mean obviously the forums are the bread and butter of this site and most people, myself included, have never once heard of the front page. Long-term is that a thing that's going to have time invested in it to make it... I dunno, a thing again for the first time since 2001 or whatever, or will it finally be taken off its decades of life support?

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Bring back the orange colorscheme

sliami
Apr 28, 2018



Gimme a hug man

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

Nessus posted:

Will we actually migrate to forums software that wasn't forged in traditional Japanese metallurgy during the Kamakura era?

Do you expect to continue paying for bandwidth etc. from selling avs/new accounts/re-regs/parachute accounts, or do you think we may need to have occasional fundraisers?
I kinda like the existing software in that a lot of SA culture is wrapped up in it and it'd be a long rear end time before anything else felt like home. It absolutely needs modernizing but that's....not impossible by any means. Obviously not making any sort of commitments and I will keep my options open but, well, my dream world involves using this software, but it works now.

Amp
Sep 10, 2010

:11tea::bubblewoop::agesilaus::megaman::yoshi::squawk::supaburn::iit::spooky::axe::honked::shroom::smugdog::sg::pkmnwhy::parrot::screamy::tubular::corsair::sanix::yeeclaw::hayter::flip::redflag:

Seth Rollins posted:

same, but for the professional wrestling forum

Can’t let a wrestler be in charge of the wrestling forum

literally this big
Jan 10, 2007



Here comes
the Squirtle Squad!

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

I plan to be pretty open about finances and everything. This is not a business that I'm seeking to wring profit out of, it's a community rec center and I'm to be the lead janitor.

A lot of folks have asked how they can give money. I'll say first and foremost, I don't need it. I will pay the hosting costs as long as I can without receiving anything. I owe it to this place. That said, I will set up a patreon. It's a little sketchy for me to do so before a contract is signed. Does patreon have a robust refund system? If somehow it falls through, will I have to manually find and pay each donor back their $2.33? I genuinely don't know. If patreon makes that easy, I'll do it sooner. No way am I keeping any money if this doesn't go through.

This is very generous, but I insist on buying you a box of Goldbelly cookies.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


also can we buy an aircraft carrier on ebay

sliami
Apr 28, 2018



Drone posted:

So what's going to happen with the front page? I mean obviously the forums are the bread and butter of this site and most people, myself included, have never once heard of the front page. Long-term is that a thing that's going to have time invested in it to make it... I dunno, a thing again for the first time since 2001 or whatever, or will it finally die?

I'm interested in this actually because I like reading the articles every few months.

Djarum
Apr 1, 2004

by vyelkin
Echoing what several people have said before, there does need to be a more open and transparent system for mods and admins in the future. I understand it is a hard and thankless job often but I think we all have seen issues with many over the years. I think the idea of term limits as well as some form of voting or approval from the userbase of the subforum should be instituted. As well as a way to report or hold accountable mod/admin behavior.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



1. get rid of burt
2. bulk up existing mods
3. make it free to join sa for a little bit to bring in freshblood, permanently mark free accounts as scabs until they get plat
4. please genuinely look into updating the forum software, make a kickstarter or chaturbate or whatever it is to accrue any funds required
5. review mod/admin transparency
6. review the sheer number of subforums, are they all relevant?

ok bye

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

biznatchio posted:

Do you have a pretty good idea of what the site's revenue and expenses look like currently? I expect you won't want to share any details until the LLC's in your hands, but what I'm getting at here is to make sure you're already aware of the expenses you'll be taking on and you're confident you can float it until your new monetization channels come online?

Lowtax always played it up like it was some enormous life-destroying expense and OH GOD I NEED MONEY NOW.
There are always unknown unknowns but I know the server hosting cost and rough forums store income numbers. I think we'll be fine without any sort of specific fundraisers but, well, I don't know what I don't know.

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD

Adus posted:

YOU CAN GET A DARK MODE RIGHT NOW WITH THE 'STYLISH' ADDON

I AM NOT AFFILIATED WITH THIS ADDON IN ANY OFFICIAL CAPACITY I JUST THINK IT'S NEAT



Oh my god. It is neat. This is so much better.

Ammat The Ankh
Sep 7, 2010

Now, attempt to defeat me!
And I shall become a living legend!
Please keep the front page around it had good poo poo like Roamin' Dad and Monstergeddon.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Ratjaculation posted:


2. bulk up existing mods


I'll accept being paid in exercise payment.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Roth posted:

I'll accept being paid in exercise payment.

i had a friend who went to hospital after making GBS threads out his guts from overeating protein powder

aim higher roth

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Can part of the funds be funnelled towards mailing goons better modems? Or is that too ambitious?

Sir John Falstaff
Apr 13, 2010

Ratjaculation posted:

3. make it free to join sa for a little bit to bring in freshblood, permanently mark free accounts as scabs until they get plat

Good god, don't do this

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Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


sliami posted:

I'm interested in this actually because I like reading the articles every few months.

Also piggybacking off of this: assuming the front page is kept long-term, would there be thoughts about... I dunno, making its content delivery a bit more modern? Basically nobody reads anything on the internet anymore, it's all about that ~pivot to video~ and ~podcasting~ and whatever poo poo the kids are into these days.

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