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Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

BrainDance posted:

That argument is way too close to the chud "Africans were the ones selling other African slaves to white people!" argument for me. Christ...

It wasn't a defense, it was just clear this person has no idea what's going on and doesn't care to.

Devils Affricate posted:

Yes, the Native American genocide is absolutely comparable. And now we have a modern nation doing it again right in front of our eyes. What was your point again?

Someone said I was a genocide defender and my point was all I've ever said about it is it's very similar to native american genocide. I didn't bring it up.

Dont Touch ME posted:

The idea that China is singled out here on a basis of cultural prejudice, because it's so "alien", is in direct contradiction with the reality of this thread. Taiwan and Japan are universally praised...

Nah, I said it's because they haven't integrated into the west. That's true. And that's why people focus a lot more criticism toward them, knowingly or not.


The fact of the matter is I haven't made any statement you all disagree with, but you've circled the wagons against me because I didn't make them from a racist, ignorant viewpoint and that's apparently earth shattering to you, to the point where you get your britches in a bunch and forget what was even said. lol

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Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009



Here, this ought to calm you dumbasses down, just look at the image and laugh at how good & smart you are,


the president doesn't like the pooh bear but he looks like one!!

Dont Touch ME
Apr 1, 2018

Antonymous posted:

Nah, I said it's because they haven't integrated into the west

Explain what this means to you, and how countries like Vietnam, Taiwan and Japan have "Integrated" into the "west".

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Antonymous posted:

It wasn't a defense, it was just clear this person has no idea what's going on and doesn't care to.


Someone said I was a genocide defender and my point was all I've ever said about it is it's very similar to native american genocide. I didn't bring it up.

I'll take your word on this but goddamn, how do you expect people to take it? We live in a world where "I'm not a holocaust denier but 6 million jews is just etc etc etc let me tell you about how cyanide gas can also be used for etc etc" is basically the genocide denier playbook.

I'm not even sure what you're trying to do here. GBS is racist? Yeah man I've been shouting that for a while (I didn't like the Haier stuff I'm glad he's gone.) That doesn't make all of whatever this is.... not ridiculous.

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010

Antonymous posted:

Someone said I was a genocide defender and my point was all I've ever said about it is it's very similar to native american genocide. I didn't bring it up.

Yeah that was me. And here you are defending genocide, post after post.

Antonymous posted:

The fact of the matter is I haven't made any statement you all disagree with, but you've circled the wagons against me because I didn't make them from a racist, ignorant viewpoint and that's apparently earth shattering to you, to the point where you get your britches in a bunch and forget what was even said. lol

So people can only argue with the evil, stupid poo poo you're saying if literally everyone in the thread agrees that it's bad? This thread isn't a hivemind. It just feels like it is to you because your opinions are so goddamn bonkers that you're ideologically a mile away from anyone with an ounce of compassion and an IQ above room temperature.

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Dont Touch ME posted:

Explain what this means to you.

What's the difference between Taiwan, which you said also has a dark history, and China, why are they treated differently? Why is Japan? If the 50s in China were bad, what about the 40s in Japan? This isn't whattaboutism, I mean this is the question you posed to me so I wonder why you think it is and why I'm wrong since we seem to agree on the premise.

I think it's entirely a cold-war framework that lets us look at Japan's or any other modern nation's problems as being policies or maybe specific individuals that need to be condemned rather than a nation of people. The reason I went off is seeing someone say they were excited that three gorges might collapse, and it seems like any bad news in china is deserved because of events 60 years ago, and if I think there can be Nuance I get called a genocide supporter despite consistently being against it. That's the stuff that pisses me off, that's totally brainwashed hatred.

The Cubelodyte
Sep 1, 2006

Practicing Hypnolaw since 1990
Grimey Drawer

Antonymous posted:

it seems the equally severe problems westerners could actually solve are treated with less passion and rage than against foreigners on the other side of a planet.

This is like almost every country, ever. It’s not like the CCP doesn’t sweep poo poo under the rug and spend all their energy waving their dicks at evil foreigners instead of tackling hard issues for their own people. This is sadly far too common; the thought that this is particularly endemic to the Evil West is laughable.

Antonymous posted:

The special focus on a culture that has not integrated with the west is exactly why the Nazis went after the Jews

You do realize that Jews were quite well-integrated in Germany and Western Europe, right? (Not so much in Eastern Europe, but what do you expect when pogroms are more common).

So are you equating criticism of the CCP with Nazism?

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Antonymous rules!!!!!

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Antonymous posted:

What's the difference between Taiwan, which you said also has a dark history, and China, why are they treated differently? Why is Japan?

Because they don't behave like massive shitheads in the time where we're alive right now

Dont Touch ME
Apr 1, 2018

Antonymous posted:

What's the difference between Taiwan, which you said also has a dark history, and China, why are they treated differently? Why is Japan?

Because right now Taiwan and Japan are highly developed democracies that do not violate their citizens rights. Both of them have the lowest rates of police brutality and incidents of fatalities caused by police in the entire world. The People's Republic of China is currently engaged with pacifying 3 of their largest (if sparsely populated) provinces and replacing the ethnic minorities that live there. The abuse of power, corruption, and violation of human rights that the PRC allows to go on underneath their impressive surveillance network is not becoming of a government worthy of respect, admiration, or approval. It is as though China has looked at what the Americans were doing and decided it wanted to be just like that, maybe even surpass them.

Antonymous posted:

If the 50s in China were bad, what about the 40s in Japan? This isn't whattaboutism, I mean this is the question you posed to me so I wonder why you think it is and why I'm wrong since we seem to agree on the premise.

I don't give a poo poo about what Mao did when it comes to formulating an opinion on China right now. Or rather, I wouldn't, if the current Paramount Leader wasn't a Mao-fetishist who wants to try and model himself after that massive failure of a leader right now.

That being said, when a tankie rolls in to make excuses for Mao's genocides, it's kind of prudent to call that poo poo out. Nobody here is talking about the Rape of Nanking because that would be (really pathetic) whataboutism.

Antonymous posted:

I think it's entirely a cold-war framework that lets us look at Japan's or any other modern nation's problems as being policies or maybe specific individuals that need to be condemned rather than a nation of people.

We just had a discussion a few weeks ago where we reminisced about Hu Jintao and everybody had generally positive things to say about him. It's almost like China is given that treatment, but the current Paramount Leader is a huge piece of poo poo sending China in a massive backslide, and everybody here is salty as gently caress about it.

Antonymous posted:

The reason I went off is seeing someone say they were excited that three gorges might collapse

Who said they were excited to see that? I'm the one who posted the article and most people were making fun of the CCP for doing its normal face-saving dance routine. No regular here would clap and cheer at 100,000,000 mainlanders dying because of the CCP's lovely games. 95% of this thread is making fun of the CCP and the culture it has instilled in the lost generation which leads to such dire situations in China.

Antonymous posted:

and it seems like any bad news in china is deserved because of events 60 years ago

We don't need to go 60 years back in time to find some monstrous poo poo China's getting up to.

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
Chinese genocide is different Outlander, you wouldn't understand, no why.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
Posting with C-SPAM characteristics

C-SPAM are all four pests

Cry Havoc
May 10, 2004

This cyberpunk cartoon avatar is pretty dang ol' good, I tell you what.
our sparrows will blot out the sun

Dont Touch ME
Apr 1, 2018

Kharnifex posted:

Chinese genocide is different Outlander, you wouldn't understand, no why.

Another thing to seperate Taiwan from the mainland, if you learn to read mandarin, you really don't have to look very hard to find a mainlander espousing this attitude unironically.

You will never ever find a Taiwanese person justifying the crimes committed against the aboriginal Taiwanese. That would be unthinkable, evil poo poo to the average Taiwanese person.

The only difference between the two is that a mainlander is subject to the CCP's propaganda and brainworms.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Cry Havoc posted:

our sparrows will blot out the sun

Then we will starve in the shade!

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

bob dobbs is dead posted:

lol wrong genocide

Was gonna say, if your claims against being a crypto-fascist genocide-supporting cocksucker is that people are mixing up the atrocities you were called out on at one particular time? You might want to stick to /r/sino.

Or /pol/, come to think of it.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

If China is so good, why hasn't it ever won a World Cup?

Serious Question: Has China ever won a world championship in any team sport?

Maybe a Chinese team has won the AFC Champions League, but without looking it up i don't think so.

CIGNX
May 7, 2006

You can trust me

Grand Fromage posted:

Adding tankies to your ignore list is great, I recommend it to all.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

BrigadierSensible posted:

If China is so good, why hasn't it ever won a World Cup?

Serious Question: Has China ever won a world championship in any team sport?

Maybe a Chinese team has won the AFC Champions League, but without looking it up i don't think so.

Does doubles ping pong count?

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Dont Touch ME posted:

Another thing to seperate Taiwan from the mainland, if you learn to read mandarin, you really don't have to look very hard to find a mainlander espousing this attitude unironically.

You will never ever find a Taiwanese person justifying the crimes committed against the aboriginal Taiwanese. That would be unthinkable, evil poo poo to the average Taiwanese person.

The only difference between the two is that a mainlander is subject to the CCP's propaganda and brainworms.

That's what's so sad about these lowlife "tankies" and poo poo. They aren't victims of these evil regimes, they had every advantage, the freedom of speech, of information and of conscience that is wrongfully denied to more than a billion people. And they squandered it, pissed it all away. Its an obscenity.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Didn't a province erect a statue or monument after beating Korea in soccer?

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

WarpedNaba posted:

Didn't a province erect a statue or monument after beating Korea in soccer?

Dunno, but I remember recently an U17 team getting pissy and banning Korea from ever playing China again after losing to Korea, and one of the players posed with their feet on the trophy or similar.

Which was a heinous act of disrespect which was not allowed to stand! Therefore China was the real winners and took the trophy back.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Roumba posted:

Chinathread: Dam breaks, but it's not what you'd think!!1 [3/4 face+boobs thumbnail img goes here]

And yet you participate in dams :smugbert:

Tarquinn
Jul 3, 2007

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you
my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal.
Hell Gem
Okay, I have to ask: Why are China weaboos called Tankies? Is it related to the tanks in Tiananmen Square?

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

Tarquinn posted:

Okay, I have to ask: Why are China weaboos called Tankies? Is it related to the tanks in Tiananmen Square?

its stalinist weeaboos, maoism after the secret speech of khruschev was p much the last major pro stalinist communist dealio

there were a lotta tanks. tiananmen, czechslovakia, etc

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Tarquinn posted:

Okay, I have to ask: Why are China weaboos called Tankies? Is it related to the tanks in Tiananmen Square?

In response to popular protests in Hungary (I think?) the USSR sent in tanks to massacre the folks doing so.

A tankie is someone who - in similar circumstances or atrocities - wholeheartly approves of such actions because it's their side doing it. Only with a communist slant.

Tarquinn
Jul 3, 2007

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you
my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal.
Hell Gem
Alright, thanks guys! :tipshat:

Son of Rodney
Feb 22, 2006

ohmygodohmygodohmygod

Stop replying to obvious trolls guys, they're just stirring up poo poo because the forum is in upheaval.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

Blistex posted:

Sup girl!

-Lowtax beats women
-Burt and other pro-abuse mods are laying low
-Tankies and banned re-regs are flooding this thread
-I miss bouncing Korea memories off you and GF

:(

We can snuggle my cats a lil bit until you feel better. :)

lilbeefer
Oct 4, 2004

Tarquinn posted:

Okay, I have to ask: Why are China weaboos called Tankies? Is it related to the tanks in Tiananmen Square?

Nothing happened at Tiananmen Square so I cannot comment

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


BrigadierSensible posted:

If China is so good, why hasn't it ever won a World Cup?

Serious Question: Has China ever won a world championship in any team sport?

Maybe a Chinese team has won the AFC Champions League, but without looking it up i don't think so.

They've won the gold medal in women's volleyball a few times, most notably in 1984 at the first Olympics they competed in post-1949. The coach of that team is still lionized as a hero, I think it was possibly their first gold medal ever in any sport. I guess whether this counts depends on whether the Olympics would be considered the world championships for volleyball.

People forget that the famous moment where Brandi Chastain ripped off her shirt celebrating the US winning the women's World Cup in 1999, they won it in a penalty shootout against...China. So at least once they came really close? I don't think they've ever won though.

In answer to your question, maybe one sport.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

A beautiful world with beautiful places to visit

Barudak fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Jun 28, 2021

Vice President
Jul 4, 2007

I'm number two around here.

How good is Chinese professional basketball? The only thing I know about it is Stephon Marbury went there to play and never left after he became a superstar, and did some interview about how being in China was the best thing to ever happen to him second to the what I am sure was the giant bag of money handed to him from the propaganda department just before the interview.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


hey friends lotta posts today whats going on

stfu and show bobas and vaccine

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.

Dont Touch ME posted:

Explain what this means to you, and how countries like Vietnam, Taiwan and Japan have "Integrated" into the "west".

anime

Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012
so i skipped like about 1000 posts, but what's our hk posting pal caberham up to ever since he permaed himself??

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

probably in hk still being a dick, I dunno

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


please hush because his safety requires privacy

Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.

lilbeefer posted:

Why do tankies whattabout so hard on a forum known for being extremely critical of the US government and capitalism as a whole? What is so hard to understand about 2 things can be bad at the same time?

The complete inability of some people to understand that not everyone believes in 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' continues to astound me, yes.

'BUT YOU THINK CHINA IS BAD. THAT MUST MEAN YOU'RE SAYING AMERICA IS GOOD?!?'

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MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000



ex-secretary for justice Elsie Leung posted:

“Don’t you think their behaviour is like terrorism? If this is not controlled, [Hong Kong] will become like Taiwan in the future,”
https://hongkongfp.com/2020/06/26/pro-beijing-figures-say-hong-kongs-security-law-very-likely-to-be-passed-at-weekend-meeting/

classy

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