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Mods can be bad without being cops. Mods are not armed enforcers of the state with the power to kill. Comparing mods to cops is weird and bad analysis. SA mods have the power to block you from publishing content on one website. If you want to dig out an equivalent example in real life, they are maybe comparable to security guards that have the power to escort someone off private property. They can be lovely, racist, homophobic, trans-phobic, etc. But they still aren't cops.
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Oh Snapple! posted:it's almost as if the problem with the forums wasn't actually the dipshit who barely had anything to do with them i think low tax was a problem with the forums
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Atrocious Joe posted:Mods can be bad without being cops. Mods are not armed enforcers of the state with the power to kill. Comparing mods to cops is weird and bad analysis. you're right, the moderation power on the forums is largely imaginary and pointless which makes it all the more baffling that a lot of them act like power-tripping cops
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Jun 27, 2020 01:29
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Atrocious Joe posted:Mods can be bad without being cops. Mods are not armed enforcers of the state with the power to kill. Comparing mods to cops is weird and bad analysis. and also all the guests have lived there for 20 years. and the owner is a deadbeat (probably played by bill murray) who hasn't had anything to do with it in a decade and doesn't even live in the same state. 
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Jun 27, 2020 01:31
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Yeah i was never too big on the mods=cops thing even if some of them definitely have a similar attitude or reactions but in light of recent events and the bigger picture of what cops are the comparison seems especially poor That having been said I'm going to sneak into every cspam mods bedroom and wipe my rear end and balls all over their pillows
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Jun 27, 2020 01:34
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i listened to the mp3 i feel very bad for both of the people in the mp3
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Jun 27, 2020 01:35
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does that make me a sucker
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Jun 27, 2020 01:35
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i only feel bad for the one and wish the other to never have another moment of peace and for the alt right he covets to cannibalize him as is their wont
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Jun 27, 2020 01:36
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slopJoe 2020330 posted:does that make me a sucker yes
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Jun 27, 2020 01:36
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slopJoe 2020330 posted:does that make me a sucker I too feel bad for the guy who beat at least 3 women.
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Jun 27, 2020 01:37
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slopJoe 2020330 posted:does that make me a sucker yes. dont listen to the mp3 morons
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Jun 27, 2020 01:37
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yeah probably
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Jun 27, 2020 01:37
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Yinlock posted:you're right, the moderation power on the forums is largely imaginary and pointless its not too baffling, people get mad aggro at them. just look at brutalist, due to one person being unable to say no they had to go round and round as people acted like being a mod meant they were inducted into a cabal lmao.
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Jun 27, 2020 01:38
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i still do tho
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Jun 27, 2020 01:38
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:you realize mods are not paid right? why would anyone volunteer to mod a forum for free if they have to go through basically a struggle session/HR meeting on schedule every two weeks? youd have to be a hosed up psycho to want to do that and not be paid lol doing shirley jackson's the lottery so people with extra buttons on a web site stay in line 👍
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Jun 27, 2020 01:40
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Homeless Friend posted:its not too baffling, people get mad aggro at them. just look at brutalist, due to one person being unable to say no they had to go round and round as people acted like being a mod meant they were inducted into a cabal lmao.
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Jun 27, 2020 01:42
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Valleyant posted:I too feel bad for the guy who beat at least 3 women. wait i thought mrs. lowtax #1 had zero kind of physical thing alleged
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Jun 27, 2020 01:42
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slopJoe 2020330 posted:wait i thought mrs. lowtax #1 had zero kind of physical thing alleged Oh, wrong thing then. Mea Culpa
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Valleyant posted:Oh, wrong thing then. Mea Culpa you don't seem that concerned
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Homeless Friend posted:its not too baffling, people get mad aggro at them. just look at brutalist, due to one person being unable to say no they had to go round and round as people acted like being a mod meant they were inducted into a cabal lmao. we need to apply marxist theory to internet modship but let's uh forget the humanist parts of it
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Jun 27, 2020 01:43
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Yinlock posted:you're right, the moderation power on the forums is largely imaginary and pointless yeah, that’s where I land. mods are not cops, but lots sure act like they’re cops, and it’s a concise way to get that point across without multiple paragraphs of explanation. is there an easier way to summarize “power-tripping rule-enforcers looking out for each other” than ‘the thin blue line’? Valleyant posted:I too feel bad for the guy who beat at least 3 women. yeah, imagine how bruised his knuckles must get
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Jun 27, 2020 01:44
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Yeah, there is similar psychology at play but on a way smaller scale. If anyone actually truly thinks the mods are cops please grow some sense of perspective.
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Dreylad posted:we need to apply marxist theory to internet modship but let's uh forget the humanist parts of it amerikan social democrats 
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Gumball Gumption posted:Yeah, there is similar psychology at play but on a way smaller scale. If anyone actually truly thinks the mods are cops please grow some sense of perspective. i don’t think anyone believes the mods are literally murdering people and driving tanks while getting paid piles of OT cash id respect them more if they were
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Jun 27, 2020 01:48
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I will say it's not a bad thing to demand accountability, and it sounds like a couple of the mods/admins should step down, but it's just been like two days since this poo poo went down and people need to sleep and eat and go to work on top of dealing with a domestic abuser
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Jun 27, 2020 01:51
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Dreylad posted:I will say it's not a bad thing to demand accountability, and it sounds like a couple of the mods/admins should step down, but it's just been like two days since this poo poo went down and people need to sleep and eat and go to work on top of dealing with a domestic abuser They should probably also spend some time internalize what their actions and inactions propagated and come to terms with some pretty heavy poo poo authority ain't free
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Fly Molo posted:i don’t think anyone believes the mods are literally murdering people and driving tanks while getting paid piles of OT cash I also don't but I've seen crazier poo poo on this website. I think it's cool to make comparisons because I think the problem is similar, more solidarity between a secret inside group than with the larger group they're supposed to be helping. But obviously the mods are not cops. I don't know what else to call it but you see the same mentality in cults, companies that are really abusive, and lots of other really lovely situations.
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Gumball Gumption posted:I also don't but I've seen crazier poo poo on this website. I think it's cool to make comparisons because I think the problem is similar, more solidarity between a secret inside group than with the larger group they're supposed to be helping. But obviously the mods are not cops. I don't know what else to call it but you see the same mentality in cults, companies that are really abusive, and lots of other really lovely situations. It's the "boys club" mentality but that's sexist/exclusive and I don't know a better phrase for it
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:It's the "boys club" mentality but that's sexist/exclusive and I don't know a better phrase for it I think ‘culture of silence’ that somebody else used pages back was decent, but it misses the authoritarian in-group defensiveness that goes along with ‘thin blue line’
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https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3930176&perpage=40&pagenumber=1#post506064339 This thread is a loving doozy if you haven't read it
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Valleyant posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3930176&perpage=40&pagenumber=1#post506064339 mods knew
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Jun 27, 2020 02:08
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There was apparently an add that went to a pdf of the arrest records a few months back Mods definitely knew
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Valleyant posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3930176&perpage=40&pagenumber=1#post506064339 huh i click and the op just is an image of a cloud so whatever accusation it's throwing around I'm just going to have to trust my friends (the accused) over it sry
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Culture of silence is good. It's the shared secrets that do it. The inner group has secrets the outer group can't know for the outer groups protection. The inner group trust the outer group but they trust each other more. And they know that if the outer group knew "the secrets" they would have a very different opinion about the inner group and they would realize that the inner group is just trying to protect them. But they don't know the secrets so they're working with bad info which means none of the criticism is real and you don't need to take it seriously or look into that thing they said about your buddy in the inner group.
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Valleyant posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3930176&perpage=40&pagenumber=1#post506064339 thats really weird
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My reflections on what's been said here tonight: I have always felt that the mod=cop comparison is a bit of an exaggeration, and I agree that power corrupts, especially if you imagine that there is power to being a mod. I guess there is, but as people have said, it's stupid illusory internet power, it's not real power, and it's dumb to let it get to your head. In my time as mod so far, I haven't felt any benefits from modding, there aren't many plus sides to it; I feel only a lot of weighty responsibility. I don't feel like I am myself in any position of power, but I guess you are right, I do have some kind of power now, and I should be careful to make sure that I don't let it corrupt me. Being a mod here is kind of a thankless responsibility. It's not something I asked for, and the only reason I'm doing it, now that I think about it, is because I see that there are a bunch of problems in this community, and right now I've been given a platform that might allow me to try to improve that situation. And of course, if I am given a chance like that, to improve a community I am a part of and which means a lot to me, I'm going to take that chance, and try to improve that community. I have to be extremely vigilant, not of you, but of myself, to make sure that I don't fall into the traps that others have fallen into. And like I said, I'll try my best, and I'll step down when I feel that I am no longer able to be helpful to the community. Sadly, I worry that like most people in a similar position, I won't realize that this is the case until it's too late. But I am aware of it for now at least. While we are talking about hyperbolic comparisons, please allow me to compare my current philosophy, both in life in general, and with regards to how I see my role in moderating this subforum, to this overly dramatic speech by the notorious marxist, Charlie Chaplin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HA8kSdsf_M
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Jun 27, 2020 02:19
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can mods queue up bans on other mods? can you just go ahead and knock that one out right now?
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Jun 27, 2020 02:20
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twoday posted:My reflections on what's been said here tonight: thanks twoday! thoday!
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Giga Gaia posted:can mods queue up bans on other mods? can you just go ahead and knock that one out right now? I can step down as a mod, I could probably ban myself but I think that would cause a thread
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twoday posted:I can step down as a mod i meant burt, you good
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