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Snowglobe of Doom: Mar 30, 2012; sucks to be right

Remember how Thursday's new detected cases for the US was the first time they'd exceeded 40,000 in one day? Well Friday's results smashed through that and came within spitting distance of 50,000 cases:

That's an increase of 47,341 cases in just one day! It took the US 19 days to get from just under 2 million cases to 2.5 million on Thursday but if they stuck to the current rate they'd go from 2.5 million cases to 3 million in just 10 days. (They won't stick to the current rate, it'll probably happen in less than 10 days.)

But the good news is ..... uh .... Brazil is no longer #1 in daily infections? :patriot:

big cummers ONLY posted:

I exploded after getting out of the shower today. I told my girlfriend that she can break up with me if it bothers her, but I am not going back to loving work. It's the state Department of Public Health and no one is temperature checking, no one is wearing masks, no one is social distancing. I'm the only motherfucker in there with a mask on. I am surrounded by chuds. My boss verbally admits another spike is coming, but STILL WANTS EVERYONE BACK IN THE OFFICE NOW.

I work in the division that literally investigates nursing homes for malfeasance. I am only a receptionist, and the lowest person on the totem pole in the entire department of government. Nursing homes are having MASS CLUSTERS OF INFECTIONS which they then try to cover up, and people in my office shrug their shoulders and joke about it.

I don't know what to loving do. I finally came to the realization that I am worth something and I do not need to have my health and safety violated. I called my doctor to try to get FMLA or short-term disability or something, anything, because I can't go back there. I was hospitalized at the end of May because I expressed feelings of wanting to die and not wanting to keep going. This morning I think I just wanted to die because it was easier than losing my job and healthcare (I have conditions that require medical attention but will not qualify for a medical card in my state unless I remain completely unemployed, which is not something I want, and I also have other people depending on my income for basic needs).

I feel like I'm at my wit's end, screaming into the void, with no recourse. I don't know where to turn. I don't know how to fight this. I'm afraid to call a paper because I'm afraid they will tell me this is small potatoes, that everyone is in the same boat, and that they can't help me, and I'm afraid to say anything to anyone period because I fear retaliation. I feel completely alone and helpless.

Free to join us in the CSPAM coronavirus thread, pretty much everyone there is at the exact point you are or even beyond it and we'll help you maintain that rage so you don't waver and go back to your job. :v:

If you need advice on getting a med cert to get out of work or anything like that they're probably your best bet for that as well.

# ? Jun 27, 2020 14:45

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# ? May 23, 2024 18:07

beer gas canister: Oct 30, 2007; shmups are da best come play some shmups they're cheap and good and you like them; Plaster Town Cop

I put in my notice at one of my jobs last week. Going to continue remotely until they can find a replacement. gently caress getting sick for nothing, I can make the money back later

# ? Jun 27, 2020 15:04

Hazo: Dec 30, 2004; SCIENCE

This has been making the rounds and it�s some nice schadenfreude

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/starbucks-karen-san-diego-barista-43000-dollars-tips-mask-encounter/

quote:

When Amber Lynn Gilles expressed her indignation over a Starbucks worker's suggestion that she follow the company and county's public health mandate by wearing a face mask, she likely had no idea how profitable it would prove � for the barista she blasted.

Gilles is the latest social media participant to be dubbed a "Karen," a name now used to reference white women acting entitled in public. The San Diego resident on Monday posted a photo of Starbucks employee Lenin Gutierrez on Facebook, saying the young barista "refused to serve me cause I'm not wearing a mask. Next time I will wait for cops and bring a medical exemption."

The self-described activist and yoga instructor did not respond to a request for comment, but made clear in multiple posts that she rejects medical data and science showing masks curb the spread of the coronavirus.

As of Friday, 5,806 Californians had died of COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, according to John Hopkins University, and San Diego has required residents to wear masks in public since May 1.

The widely shared and commented-upon post promoted many expressions of support for Gutierrez, including from those who wrote they'd like to give him a tip, prompting a sympathetic stranger, Matt Cowan, to start a virtual tip jar for the worker on GoFundMe. The donation page entitled "Tips for Lenin Standing Up To A San Diego Karen" had raised more than $43,000 for Gutierrez as of Friday afternoon.

"Everybody is rallying around somebody for doing what they're supposed to do and trying to protect everyone else. It just goes to show you there are a lot of good people out there and that outweighs the bad," Cowan told a San Diego news outlet.

Gutierrez, an aspiring dancer, posted a Facebook video expressing gratitude for the donations, and relaying his surprise that an unpleasant incident that lasted just a few minutes could result in something "so big."

He described being assigned the front register and asking Gilles if she had a face mask, leading her to curse and storm out, only to return moments later to snap a photo of Gutierrez, ask his name and threaten to phone Starbucks corporate headquarters before leaving again.

"We respectfully request customers follow social distancing and safety protocols recommended by public health officials, including wearing a facial covering when visiting our stores," a Starbucks spokesperson stated in an email.

So an entitled white lady gets owned on social media and the kid she tried to shame gets cash. Good. The real juicy stuff is the lady herself. Not posting a link here but her Facebook page reveals her to be EXACTLY the kind of horrible person you think. For instance:

Too stupid to understand how to make it private
Barely coherent English
Yoga instructor
Energy healer
Anti-vaxxer
White supremacist

It�s simply breathtaking how she exemplifies literally every disgusting trait a modern American could have.

Oh, and she wants to sue to get a cut of the kid�s gofundme money

# ? Jun 27, 2020 15:30

spiritual bypass: Feb 19, 2008; Grimey Drawer

Really appreciating that this worker is named Lenin

# ? Jun 27, 2020 15:48

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Here, have a nice intersection of 2020, an entire article of sheriffs around the country who refuse to enforce mask laws or wear masks themselves

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Don-t-be-a-sheep-Sheriffs-rebel-against-new-15368271.php#photo-19444867

quote:

Hours after Gov. Jay Inslee, D, ordered Washington state residents to cover their faces in public, a Republican sheriff in a rural swath of the state's southwest suggested they should be doing no such thing.

"Here's what I say," Lewis County Sheriff Robert Snaza told the crowd outside a church Tuesday, carrying a megaphone and sporting his green and beige uniform but no face mask. "Don't be a sheep."

Few of the people cheering on Snaza covered their faces either, according to video of the scene taken by the Daily Chronicle of Centralia, Wash. Indeed, the words on a billboard above the crowd seemed to capture their feeling about the pandemic: "Oh, no! A virus. Quick - burn the bill of rights."

With coronavirus infections rapidly spreading across the American South and West and more states making masks a requirement, dozens of sheriffs like Snaza are staging a rebellion against state governments. An adherence to their interpretation of Constitution, they say, comes before any kind of public health advice.

Since April, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has said people should cover their faces in public to stop the spread of the coronavirus, which has killed more than 122,000 people in the United States to date. But Snaza said he did not believe masks were effective, arguing they should be optional instead.

"My frustration is we continue to listen to the governor's requests without asking questions, without saying: 'Well wait a minute, there's the other side to this,' " Snaza told Oregon Public Broadcasting.

He is not alone. In Nevada and North Carolina on Thursday, multiple sheriffs said their Democratic governors' mask requirements were "unconstitutional and unenforceable." After five California counties ignored a similar directive, Gov. Gavin Newsom, D, threatened to withhold state funds. Another Washington state sheriff called Inslee an "idiot."

As they battle through viral Facebook posts and appearances on local TV and radio, these mostly Republican sheriffs have effectively blocked their governors' orders. If they refuse to enforce their rules, it is unclear who else will.

Public health officials have insisted that masks are an easy way to protect the whole population.

"Everybody should wear a mask when out public," Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious-disease specialist, told the Sacramento Press Club this week. "It should not be a political issue. It is purely a public health issue."

At a news conference Wednesday, Inslee spoke out against the sheriffs objecting to his "Mask Up, Washington" campaign, saying that mask wearers should not be compared to "barnyard animals."

"We have to be disappointed in any law enforcement officer who would encourage illegal behavior," Inslee said. Mask wearing, he added, "is about demonstrating our respect and care for the other people around us."

Still, two Washington sheriffs insisted they can only "educate" residents instead of strictly enforcing the mask order. Snaza's twin brother, who heads up the sheriff's department in a neighboring county, said he will not require his own deputies to cover their faces, fearing it could put the officers in jeopardy in high-risk situations.

In North Carolina, at least 10 sheriffs this week said they would not be carrying out a similar directive from Gov. Roy Cooper, D. The minor nature of the offenses as well as a lack of resources, many said, meant they had more serious things to worry about.

"I certainly encourage people to be careful and take safety precautions," Wes Tripp, sheriff of Halifax County, wrote on social media, according to WWBT. "The wearing of a mask is a personal decision, not one of a governor in Raleigh."

While a wave of newly elected black Democratic sheriffs has radically changed the face of law enforcement in North Carolina, many of those who spoke out against Cooper's mask order were white, male and Republican.

But joining them was Paula Dance, the Democratic sheriff in Pitt County, who in 2018 was elected as the first black female sheriff in the state's history.

"These are very tense and polarizing times in so many ways," she wrote in a memo to residents of her county, in North Carolina's mostly agricultural eastern end. "So many issues in 2020 have tried to divide us. I pray we prove once again that the people of Pitt County are better than this and can rise above the conflicts of elsewhere."

The trend of "constitutionalist sheriffs" standing up against state laws is hardly new. Many of the country's most prominent law enforcement officials, like Arizona's Joe Arpaio, rose to fame on such campaigns.

But the pandemic has created a particularly ripe opportunity to rebel against left-leaning governors, as law enforcement officials feel emboldened to speak up on behalf of the more conservative voters who brought them into office.

A May analysis by the Marshall Project found that at least 60 sheriffs across more than a dozen states were publicly resisting stay-at-home orders and other virus-related restrictions issued by governors. Three-quarters of those sheriffs were in states governed by Democrats.

As NPR has reported, sheriffs can give voice to political frustration that is especially tangible in more conservative, rural areas - including those in Washington and North Carolina - where top state officials were voted in by an urban majority.

Some scholars, however, also trace the sheriffs' refusal to enforce laws they disagree with back to more sinister roots: from the Ku Klux Klan to the far-right Posse Comitatus movement of the 1980s and eventually the quiet founding of a group for hundreds of sheriffs who refuse to enforce all laws they find unconstitutional.

Since his speech Tuesday, Sheriff Robert Snaza clarified that he wants to take the mask order on a case-by-case basis - while getting people to think, too.

"Just because I said 'don't be sheep' does not mean that I'm outwardly saying I want you to violate the orders," Snaza told OPB.

These people have guns and can murder and torture with impugnity

The Glumslinger fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Jun 27, 2020

# ? Jun 27, 2020 16:06

bird with big dick: Oct 21, 2015

Trump supporting Floridian feral ghoul informs CNN the cure is in fact worse than the disease.

# ? Jun 27, 2020 16:07

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

bird with big dick posted:

Trump supporting Floridian feral ghoul informs CNN the cure is in fact worse than the disease.

This scene from Robocop really scared me as a kid!

# ? Jun 27, 2020 16:15

Schadenboner: Aug 15, 2011; by Shine

So any word on whether the Republican convention is going to be virtual too?

I mean: it v.obvs. should be but they can't really do it, can they?

# ? Jun 27, 2020 16:18

Hasturtium: May 19, 2020; And that year, for his birthday, he got six pink ping pong balls in a little pink backpack.

Schadenboner posted:

So any word on whether the Republican convention is going to be virtual too?

I mean: it v.obvs. should be but they can't really do it, can they?

Think back on the last four years. Really think about the hubris infusing everything done with the GOP�s assent on a national level, then tell me what on earth would cause a gear shift to their hubris now.

# ? Jun 27, 2020 16:23

Schadenboner: Aug 15, 2011; by Shine

Hasturtium posted:

Think back on the last four years. Really think about the hubris infusing everything done with the GOP�s assent on a national level, then tell me what on earth would cause a gear shift to their hubris now.

What's the lucky city?

Dems were going to be in Milwaukee but :negative:

# ? Jun 27, 2020 16:24

Rolo: Nov 16, 2005; Hmm, what have we here?

Ehud posted:

Best part of the taskforce meeting

https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1276574780725121026?s=20

gently caress this guy. God drat it.

# ? Jun 27, 2020 16:33

Beef: Jul 26, 2004

First amendment, first amendment! He shouted, as he was being rolled into the ICU.

# ? Jun 27, 2020 16:36

Hazo: Dec 30, 2004; SCIENCE

The Glumslinger posted:

"My frustration is we continue to listen to the governor's requests without asking questions, without saying: 'Well wait a minute, there's the other side to this,' " Snaza told Oregon Public Broadcasting.

�Has anyone considered the virus�s side of the story?�

loving lmao

# ? Jun 27, 2020 16:39

Uncle Lloyd: Sep 2, 2019

Schadenboner posted:

What's the lucky city?

Dems were going to be in Milwaukee but .

It was originally Charlotte, but they wanted the whole pack-the-arena experience and got pissy about the NC governor saying "hey maybe the middle of a pandemic isn't the best time for this," so now it's Jacksonville.

# ? Jun 27, 2020 16:45

Guy Axlerod: Dec 29, 2008

You have a constitutional right to be a dumbass. But that doesn't mean you have to, or encourage others to do so.

# ? Jun 27, 2020 16:47

Schadenboner: Aug 15, 2011; by Shine

Uncle Lloyd posted:

It was originally Charlotte, but they wanted the whole pack-the-arena experience and got pissy about the NC governor saying "hey maybe the middle of a pandemic isn't the best time for this," so now it's Jacksonville.

And here I was gearing up to feel bad for whatever city drew the short straw. I take it all back: they truly truly deserve each-other.

# ? Jun 27, 2020 16:47

Outrail: Jan 4, 2009; www.sapphicrobotica.com

Ehud posted:

Best part of the taskforce meeting

https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1276574780725121026?s=20

Never seen a guy speaking so carefully. Someone should ask Trump the exact same question.

# ? Jun 27, 2020 16:53

Hazo: Dec 30, 2004; SCIENCE

I know sheriffs are locally elected, but does the governor or AG have any sort of oversight to discipline them for dereliction of duty like they�re doing now? What the gently caress do you even do?

�You swore an oath to protect public safety and uphold lawfully issued mandates. Your refusal to do this for political reasons shows you are unfit to carry out your duties and as such are immediately relieved of your office.�

# ? Jun 27, 2020 16:55

The Ferret King: Nov 23, 2003; cluck cluck

Outrail posted:

Never seen a guy speaking so carefully. Someone should ask Trump the exact same question.

"What a nasty question, at a time like this. You're part of the problem. NEXT!"

Easy peasey.

# ? Jun 27, 2020 16:59

Delta-Wye: Sep 29, 2005

The Glumslinger posted:

Here, have a nice intersection of 2020, an entire article of sheriffs around the country who refuse to enforce mask laws or wear masks themselves

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Don-t-be-a-sheep-Sheriffs-rebel-against-new-15368271.php#photo-19444867

These people have guns and can murder and torture with impugnity

Goddamn American Taliban. All enemies, foreign and domestic!

# ? Jun 27, 2020 17:16

HoAssHo: Mar 10, 2005

Untrustable posted:

I have to seriously consider whether I want to quit my job. I've been there for almost a decade. I'm high up-ish. I like my coworkers. I detest the petulant, spoiled, lazy, dumb patrons at the casino. An ounce of empathy from them or my higher-ups would make a world of difference. I pushed for tighter restrictions and better health and safety precautions and got promised them, but now that the BIG boss went back to the head office, his assistant boss is trying to pull back on the commitment to safety. We need to shut down. Furlough me as long as needed. I'll come back. I've worked through this whole thing so far save two weeks. No hazard pay, no raises, took a pay cut. For a tribe of less than 1,500 they're pretty fuckin cavalier about this thing. Their elders are in the casino and they tell them they don't have to wear masks, or distance, or get temp-checked. Elders are held in high regard! I don't get it I don't loving get it.

I've been interested in your posts because I work on the tribal government side for the tribe that owns Foxwoods in CT. Tribal Council fought with the governor to open the casino on June 1, earlier than other businesses, because they were losing millions weekly. They basically said that they're a sovereign nation so, ultimately, they'll do whatever the gently caress they want. Normally, I think that attitude is cool as hell but right now, er, not so much.

I know this will probably shock you but the mostly pointless white collar government office workers (like me) don't have to go back until July 6. Also, they're laying off way less of us than the casino employees. Because we must preserve the jobs of people who spend most of their workday looking at their phones at all costs.

They have only have 700 adult tribal members (1000 total) and Elders are treated as a special class to the point where we put a little "e" next to their name on internal lists so that we know to treat them with special deference. I have no trouble whatsoever believing that they are letting the elders do whatever they want without question in the casino while trying to enforce the rules for everyone else. My boss is an elder and...she acts like it.

Anyway, I'm never loving going back.

# ? Jun 27, 2020 18:50

21st Cherry boy: Jan 28, 2004; i'm a girl, fucktard

My Swedish friend tells me his country is very angry they are not getting tourists right now. He also says it's only him and one other (older, existing conditions) lady wearing masks at his office which insisted they must come back in person even though working from home was going fine.

# ? Jun 27, 2020 19:10

flubber nuts: Oct 5, 2005

bird with big dick posted:

Trump supporting Floridian feral ghoul informs CNN the cure is in fact worse than the disease.

will this result in ostracized communities of corona hosts ala leprosy? what in the gently caress happened to this guy. is this what it looks like when you have caught the covid three + times? certainly someone out theres on their third round.

# ? Jun 27, 2020 19:14

Der Kyhe: Jun 25, 2008

21st Cherry boy posted:

My Swedish friend tells me his country is very angry they are not getting tourists right now. He also says it's only him and one other (older, existing conditions) lady wearing masks at his office which insisted they must come back in person even though working from home was going fine.

Swedes in general are right now salty that other Nordic countries opened their passport-control free borders to each other but everyone told Swedes to stay the gently caress home and sort their COVID-19 poo poo out.

# ? Jun 27, 2020 19:47

Comfy Fleece Sweater: Apr 2, 2013; You see, but you do not observe.

ThermoPhysical posted:

COVID-19 can make zombie cells that infect other cells for the virus.

COVID-19 can affect the immune system in a similar way to HIV.

I'm sorry if these are posted already.

Ahhh what the gently caress, are they just making stuff up now ? Zombie cells

I hope the joke predictions of �wait till next year when infected asymptomatics turn into zombies� don�t come true

https://twitter.com/covidperspectiv/status/1276912241028153344?s=21

# ? Jun 27, 2020 20:21

Antigravitas: Dec 8, 2019; Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

I'm not clicking on a yahoo link, but "zombie cells" are how viruses propagate in general, so�eh?

# ? Jun 27, 2020 20:33

Professor Shark: May 22, 2012

The Ferret King posted:

"What a nasty question, at a time like this. You're part of the problem. NEXT!"

Easy peasey.

�Who are you with? Excuse me, who are you with? Exactly, your [sic] Fake News and that�s why your ratings are so low. Next. Next. Quiet... next. You are being ver- you are being very rude and� *walks away from podium with pouty face*

# ? Jun 27, 2020 21:01

Sir John Falstaff: Apr 13, 2010

Ehud posted:

Best part of the taskforce meeting

https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1276574780725121026?s=20

Wonder if Pence knows they've decided to make him the face of the failure?

# ? Jun 27, 2020 21:08

PederP: Nov 20, 2009

Antigravitas posted:

I'm not clicking on a yahoo link, but "zombie cells" are how viruses propagate in general, so�eh?

Not all viruses - and even those that use filopodia or tubules will still rely on virions making it through the cellular membrane as the primary mechanism (like the ACE2 trickery of SARS-CoV-2). But the "zombie cell" thing isn't really that special. Hijacking the existing cellular architecture, to which these "tentacle"-like filopodia belong (they're pretty normal on many cells) is just one of the many messed up techniques available to a virus. One could even say it would be surprising if this wasn't a feature of SARS-CoV-2.

# ? Jun 27, 2020 21:21

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

lol...

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1276967294833315840?s=20

# ? Jun 27, 2020 21:57

Untrustable: Mar 17, 2009

HoAssHo posted:

I've been interested in your posts because I work on the tribal government side for the tribe that owns Foxwoods in CT. Tribal Council fought with the governor to open the casino on June 1, earlier than other businesses, because they were losing millions weekly. They basically said that they're a sovereign nation so, ultimately, they'll do whatever the gently caress they want. Normally, I think that attitude is cool as hell but right now, er, not so much.

I know this will probably shock you but the mostly pointless white collar government office workers (like me) don't have to go back until July 6. Also, they're laying off way less of us than the casino employees. Because we must preserve the jobs of people who spend most of their workday looking at their phones at all costs.

They have only have 700 adult tribal members (1000 total) and Elders are treated as a special class to the point where we put a little "e" next to their name on internal lists so that we know to treat them with special deference. I have no trouble whatsoever believing that they are letting the elders do whatever they want without question in the casino while trying to enforce the rules for everyone else. My boss is an elder and...she acts like it.

Anyway, I'm never loving going back.

The problem is that NO ONE other than employees are following safety practices. Management doesn't want us to "inconvenience" the patrons by making them follow very simple rules. I just don't understand the disconnect between "our elders, last fluent speakers of our dying language, forbearers of the tribe's successes" with "The safety of our elders does not matter, along with the safety of everyone else. Die. We hate having employees and our elders. Die."

# ? Jun 27, 2020 22:11

Comfy Fleece Sweater: Apr 2, 2013; You see, but you do not observe.

Ehud posted:

lol...

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1276967294833315840?s=20

Just in case you wondered how far people are willing to go in order to justify their worldview where everything is awesome under Yrump

# ? Jun 27, 2020 22:14

Doggles: Apr 22, 2007

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/alexdstuckey/status/1276653523636273152

https://mobile.twitter.com/spooknine/status/1276673343203278850
https://mobile.twitter.com/Reddy/status/1276944919697985536zz

# ? Jun 27, 2020 22:15

Zugzwang: Jan 2, 2005; You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.; Ramrod XTreme

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

https://twitter.com/covidperspectiv/status/1276912241028153344?s=21

Okay so, a case fatality rate - "case" meaning "you are sick enough for us to notice that you have the virus" - of 5% means that if half of infections are asymptomatic, the infection fatality rate is 2.5%. And if 80% of people who get it are asymptomatic, IFR = 1%. Where the gently caress did the CDC get that number of ~0.2% IFR then?

And does this suck as much as I'm suggesting here or am I oversimplifying somehow? Maybe not everyone with symptoms counts as a "case"? Anyway, still sucks.

Doggles posted:

https://twitter.com/Reddy/status/1276944919697985536

lmao

# ? Jun 27, 2020 22:27

Chocobo: Oct 15, 2012; Here comes a new challenger!; Oven Wrangler

I've begun writing off my family as they've begun mocking public health measures.

"Unfriend me if you'd actually wear a mask!" Okay I loving will. Go build yourself a loving echo chamber of conspiracy theorists and "spiritual thinkers" to reinforce your maliciously ignorant loving opinions. Endanger the ones you love because you saw a "news" article where an unnamed doctor made a bunch of claims with no citations. I'm about loving done with people. This pandemic is fuelled entirely by ignorance and pride. I despair for the future of humanity, there's no hope.

# ? Jun 27, 2020 23:07

flubber nuts: Oct 5, 2005

Chocobo posted:

I've begun writing off my family as they've begun mocking public health measures.

"Unfriend me if you'd actually wear a mask!" Okay I loving will. Go build yourself a loving echo chamber of conspiracy theorists and "spiritual thinkers" to reinforce your maliciously ignorant loving opinions. Endanger the ones you love because you saw a "news" article where an unnamed doctor made a bunch of claims with no citations. I'm about loving done with people. This pandemic is fuelled entirely by ignorance and pride. I despair for the future of humanity, there's no hope.

Its loving nuts how it feels like most of everyone is dismissing this is one way or another. Like all my worst fears come true. I dont think I've even begun to process the psychological trauma. My only respite has been drugs and nature. I hope everyone is taking care of their own mental health in these hosed times

# ? Jun 27, 2020 23:30

Untrustable: Mar 17, 2009

Go fishing. Set on a bank and catch fish and throw them back after a stern talking-to.

# ? Jun 27, 2020 23:48

canyoneer: Sep 13, 2005; I only have canyoneyes for you

Untrustable posted:

Go fishing. Set on a bank and catch fish and throw them back after a stern talking-to.

"Fella, I might be eating you if this pond wasn't so gross looking. If someone weirder than me comes along, you might not be so lucky next time"

My wife was in a grocery store today in hotspot Arizona, the Florida of the West, and saw two grown men roll their eyes and scoff as she was putting on her mask. Despite the city requiring it, and the store requiring it, those two yokels were smart enough to not need one.

My country is doomed. We, collectively, are too stupid to survive.

# ? Jun 27, 2020 23:54

Tiny Timbs: Sep 6, 2008

Zugzwang posted:

Okay so, a case fatality rate - "case" meaning "you are sick enough for us to notice that you have the virus" - of 5% means that if half of infections are asymptomatic, the infection fatality rate is 2.5%. And if 80% of people who get it are asymptomatic, IFR = 1%. Where the gently caress did the CDC get that number of ~0.2% IFR then?

And does this suck as much as I'm suggesting here or am I oversimplifying somehow? Maybe not everyone with symptoms counts as a "case"? Anyway, still sucks.

lmao

Having a case requires testing and confirmation, so IFR includes untested positive cases as well as asymptomatic cases. The CDC believes the US has 10x more infections than we've been able to test for.

Because of the testing issues CFR mostly refers to "sick enough to go to the ER," not "sick and showing symptoms."

# ? Jun 28, 2020 00:02

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# ? May 23, 2024 18:07

zer0spunk: Nov 6, 2000; devil never even lived

has the person who randomly asks if we're all dead yet every now and then asked if we're all dead yet, yet

# ? Jun 28, 2020 00:03

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