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DACK FAYDEN posted:Yes, unless the transcend is within about 5 seconds of reincarnation, in which case, jiggle the timers until it isn't. You get offerings each transcend, so it's way better. Testing right now but it looks like you want to do your offering timer against reincarnation: At 1842 seconds: Transcendence: 2.5k offerings Reincarnation: 11k offerings
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Virigoth posted:Testing right now but it looks like you want to do your offering timer against reincarnation: Reincarnation offering is transcendence amount + reincarnation gain amount - ie. if you transcend it removes its amount from reincarnation amount and starts ticking up again. The reason you'd do your timer off transcendence is because reincarnations want to run longer for obtainium and now ants so it will be well past the optimal time for offerings while transcendence would then be back only ticking through optimal gain.
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Rynoto posted:Reincarnation offering is transcendence amount + reincarnation gain amount - ie. if you transcend it removes its amount from reincarnation amount and starts ticking up again. The reason you'd do your timer off transcendence is because reincarnations want to run longer for obtainium and now ants so it will be well past the optimal time for offerings while transcendence would then be back only ticking through optimal gain. Yeah, if you have all of the things that boost offering time and a high enough SI things settle into a 2201 second transcendence period and a 4400 second reincarnation period.
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Can someone point out any holes in my synergism strat right now? Research wise I have all top rowdone but 1-19, all but 2-19 and 2-20 in second row, and I have 3-16, 3-20, and 4-16 done I'm working on capping off 2-20 right now My rune levels are 551/526/347/505/139 I just don't see how i will ever do No Runes challenge ever when I'm e85M coins in normal runs
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Chin Strap posted:Can someone point out any holes in my synergism strat right now? Anthill is most likely going to be the solution to No Runes with its tax reduction ant and other bonuses so  I've just been pumping SI hard and doing 3-hour reincarnations so ants have a full hour of max speed growth. Doubt No Runes will be done legitimately for a while.You should definitely pick up 5-19 though for the +2 quarks per hour. And 4-20 to help push your offering gain along. Rynoto fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Jun 26, 2020 |
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Yeah ants are what let you push challenges and particles, so anything that helps them. The expensive research section you should be going as hard on anything that gives you obtanium, rune exp, or SI effectiveness. Dump into SI for more obtanium/ants and ride the research train while your ants do they thing seconding the +2 quark research, it massively helps getting shop upgrades, and the new ant one is primo.
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Syngergism: So I decided to test it and the scaling from time on ant gain caps at +100% after two hours. The actual scaling to that point seems linear. *Requires the e20 crumbs achievement
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Its a full week now since all my ROCK LOBSTER gear hit level 100, except Pet Rock which was level 92. Pet Rock is STILL level 92. RNG is a fickle bitch. EDIT: Whining helps, the 2 lobster kills after my whine both gave me a Pet Rock Ineptitude fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Jun 27, 2020 |
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So i've just got myself the fully boosted set of Numerical gear from Meta Land in NGU, and was wondering if at this point there's any Evil challenges i should be able to tick off easily enough? I've got enough energy/number to reach the Typo Zonw, but can't even idle in Inter-dimensional Party yet because my adventure stats are still too low. Just wondering if there's anything I can do that'll give me a nice boost or if i should just wait until after I've beaten the next titan before going back to them?
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I assume you've already done all Basics? If not, that's the highest priority. The first Troll for the acc too. While you're there, do some NRCs to get the Godmother to 1h for when you unlock her, and try to push some No NGUs. Those aren't ever fast but they are probably the best bonus you'll get. I think 3 completions was around what you could reasonably get at that point but ymmv. No TMs aren't bad, and much easier than in Normal since you already start with the Chocolate Zone unlocked, 100lvl and NoAugs are kinda recursive since their bonus are mostly useful for challenge completions themselves.
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Jun 28, 2020 18:03
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First time!   Can I stop now  
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is there an activate all yggdrasils button that i'm missing. harvest all is nice but having to click all the activations...
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You missed the auto activation in the Exp menu but now I really want to know how long you've been manually activating your fruits
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Jun 28, 2020 20:44
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does this still work if i have all my energy and magic tied up
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Jun 28, 2020 20:48
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Aurora posted:does this still work if i have all my energy and magic tied up Yes. I refused to buy a new fruit if I couldn't auto-activate it.
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You only need to clear the requirement to buy the autoactivation once - 10x the amount of Energy or Magic to manually grow - which you can cheat by equipping gear with +Cap bonus. After that, the fruits will grow without draining your resources. Since you're already on multiple manuals, I guess at least the first three are already doable, and maybe you can reach a little bit further and get that sweet Pom.
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Xtanstic posted:Yes. I refused to buy a new fruit if I couldn't auto-activate it. same, i only bother with fruits if i can auto-activate at this point fruit auto-activation reqs are all here https://ngu-idle.fandom.com/wiki/Experience#Yggdrasil
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For some reason I keep pressing the all fruits>1 button in stead of the max tier button. And now you will too.
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I'm slowly flailing my way up NGU. I am Vooze in the discord.
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Question for the maxxed out Rock Lobster people: What's your PP/kill and XP/fruit? I'm curious how much actual stat growth is left in the game, or if all these sad perks etc are just going to be stretching progress milestones that used to take days and now take weeks even further into the month range.
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Francis posted:Question for the maxxed out Rock Lobster people: What's your PP/kill and XP/fruit? I'm curious how much actual stat growth is left in the game, or if all these sad perks etc are just going to be stretching progress milestones that used to take days and now take weeks even further into the month range. 200ish/kill and no idea on the fruit. 10b or so?
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Jesus christ I just finished grinding out all the west world gear and used the optimizer to add that and V1 IT HUNGERS gear at various levels into my Wishes build and all the sudden my E/M caps are so high that it's going to take 14 days with bars to max it out. Did this just sneak up on me and I haven't been upgrading my bars enough or does this gear just have that much more cap than the back to school gear?
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explosivo posted:Jesus christ I just finished grinding out all the west world gear and used the optimizer to add that and V1 IT HUNGERS gear at various levels into my Wishes build and all the sudden my E/M caps are so high that it's going to take 14 days with bars to max it out. Did this just sneak up on me and I haven't been upgrading my bars enough or does this gear just have that much more cap than the back to school gear? around there all the bars are on the chest, and if you wearing beuc that's why. personally I keep my bars equal to my power and I've never had issues
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Eldercain posted:200ish/kill and no idea on the fruit. 10b or so? 200ish or 2000ish? Because 200 is way too low end-game. I'm getting around 2600 with little blue pills, 1300 without.
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New Yorp New Yorp posted:200ish or 2000ish? Because 200 is way too low end-game. I'm getting around 2600 with little blue pills, 1300 without. 200ish. just finished rock lobster gear, my guess is you have way better r3 than me
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Eldercain posted:200ish. just finished rock lobster gear, my guess is you have way better r3 than me I just finished the 70s zone and I get around 160, so I'm going to be closer to your perk point generation when I catch up than New Yorp's. My guess is some players having a huuuuuge exp lead to give them a leg up on the hacks and NGUs at this point.
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Manyorcas posted:I just finished the 70s zone and I get around 160, so I'm going to be closer to your perk point generation when I catch up than New Yorp's. My guess is some players having a huuuuuge exp lead to give them a leg up on the hacks and NGUs at this point. yeah I'm always just tickling endgame when content hits, iirc he's been way ahead most of the game
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Eldercain posted:around there all the bars are on the chest, and if you wearing beuc that's why. OH poo poo you're right, it totally was BEUC. I had that on before and didn't have this problem, is it because the new gear just has that much more cap then I guess?
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explosivo posted:OH poo poo you're right, it totally was BEUC. I had that on before and didn't have this problem, is it because the new gear just has that much more cap then I guess? actually em cap stops showing up shortly after, just a coincidence and beuc is so good you end up having this awkward gearing stage. just throw on a bars accessory and you'll be fine
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People talk about having gear sets for hacks or wishes - me, my only gear sets are everything and bars.
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Francis posted:Question for the maxxed out Rock Lobster people: What's your PP/kill and XP/fruit? I'm curious how much actual stat growth is left in the game, or if all these sad perks etc are just going to be stretching progress milestones that used to take days and now take weeks even further into the month range. 800 pp/kill and 11e9 xp from fruit (and about 7e9 per day from ITOPOD?) explosivo posted:Jesus christ I just finished grinding out all the west world gear and used the optimizer to add that and V1 IT HUNGERS gear at various levels into my Wishes build and all the sudden my E/M caps are so high that it's going to take 14 days with bars to max it out. Did this just sneak up on me and I haven't been upgrading my bars enough or does this gear just have that much more cap than the back to school gear? I max my EM in about 9 minutes in NGU set and 15ish in wishes or hacks set. The trick when using the gear optimizer is to let it use 1 less accessory slot than your max, then put the best EM BARS item in that slot afterwards. That item is probably the tentacle. Ineptitude fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Jun 30, 2020 |
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In the gear optimizer you can lock items in a set instead of leaving it blank if you want
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If you're really minmaxing you can put on your bars accessory for the first 10 minutes of a rebirth and then swap it out for the "real" item at the same time you're assigning all your stuff. You probably have at least one accessory that doesn't give any caps.
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Jabor posted:If you're really minmaxing you can put on your bars accessory for the first 10 minutes of a rebirth and then swap it out for the "real" item at the same time you're assigning all your stuff. You probably have at least one accessory that doesn't give any caps. ring of greed which I assume everyone runs in every set
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Popping in after like a year or something. Any new hotness? I played the gently caress out of NGU until I lost my year old save file and didn't feel like starting over. Any new neat stuff to check out?
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Agent355 posted:Popping in after like a year or something. Any new hotness? I played the gently caress out of NGU until I lost my year old save file and didn't feel like starting over. Synergism is a lot of fun. It starts out with a lot hidden and gradually unrolls a ton of features and prestige layers. The developer is fairly active, although he tends to favor big content updates every month or so. The good news is, one just came out a few days ago so there's plenty to keep you occupied. It wavers back and forth between being fairly interactive and fairly "wait for the next milestone"-y, but there's a nice balance there. https://game320578.konggames.com/gamez/0032/0578/live/index.html?kongregate_game_version=1590487282&kongregate_host=www.kongregate.com Incremental Adventures was in this thread a while ago, but it's gotten more refined and has more long-term gameplay. It quickly reaches a point where you interact with it relatively infrequently, but I'm enjoying playing through it right now. https://game310893.konggames.com/gamez/0031/0893/live/kong-index.html?kongregate_game_version=1591784604&kongregate_host=www.kongregate.com
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