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A4R8
Feb 28, 2020

Penisaurus Sex posted:

The Counselor, not in sex but in the relationship ‘normal’ people have to real power

This movie is like a melodrama on the sociopathy of late capitalist societies altogether. Cartel snuff films, assassination devices that slowly decapitate you, corrupt police, sexual depravity, unfettered greed, arrogance, the banks in bed with human/drug trafficking, intelligence agencies running drugs, etc. - all in good Cormac McCarthy style. It was too bleak for critics.

And watching Altered Carbon post-Epstein sure does provide new context to the psycho sex poo poo.

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Giga Gaia
May 2, 2006

360 kickflip to... Meteo?!
ive watched true detective season 1 twice. once with a vague acceptance that pedophiles run the world and a second time with concrete proof in my lizard brain and folks, it owns.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Wasabi the J posted:

So they stretched out one episode of SAC into a movie?

it's from the manga you swine

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!

A4R8 posted:

This movie is like a melodrama on the sociopathy of late capitalist societies altogether. Cartel snuff films, assassination devices that slowly decapitate you, corrupt police, sexual depravity, unfettered greed, arrogance, the banks in bed with human/drug trafficking, intelligence agencies running drugs, etc. - all in good Cormac McCarthy style. It was too bleak for critics.

And watching Altered Carbon post-Epstein sure does provide new context to the psycho sex poo poo.

I’ve been praising the counselor since it originally came out. it’s a mean ugly movie but I think it’s extremely interesting and like you said touches on all those themes you mentioned. I always saw the message of the movie to be if you want to be a player within our system you’re directly involved with the horror of it all. even if you didn’t personally do any of it. No ones hands are clean. every one is complicit.

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!
also I always saw Neon Genesis Evangelion as a good look into the sociopathy of those in charge. it’s a secret cabal of people that wage an existential war on humanity by using emotionally damaged children. all to fulfill their desire to meld humanity into one single consciousness.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

The_Rob posted:

also I always saw Neon Genesis Evangelion as a good look into the sociopathy of those in charge. it’s a secret cabal of people that wage an existential war on humanity by using emotionally damaged children. all to fulfill their desire to meld humanity into one single consciousness.

Oh NGE goes to a whole other level exploring that everyone in the cabal was pursuing their own agenda individually from each other

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Choose your fighter https://twitter.com/bigblackjacobin/status/1277013608220811276 https://twitter.com/originalspin/status/1276222916229656576

Elderbean
Jun 10, 2013


Elysium doesn't get into sex stuff from what I remember but it was so blatant about rich people being monsters who grind everyone's lives to dust. Despite that, I vividly remember people insisting it was some kind of plot hole that the rich couldn't just give everyone on earth medical beds because Americans are stupid and are only beginning to understand class.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/stackwolljeck/status/1277199796223315973?s=19

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
Every real tankie been knew...

Elderbean
Jun 10, 2013


I'm such an anti-establishment goth please give me millions of dollars.

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019


every couple of years newcomers find out who this literal nazi sympathizer, occupy informant, stalker, pentagon stooge, CIA operative, and imperialist shill really is, and it's in those moments, looking at how they react, that you discover whether they have the stomach for this here game. cos when the spiderweb of connections sprawling from just this one fascist goth spook is laid bare, it is a true moment of revelation. you realize just how far They will go in pursuit of their objectives, how many phonecalls and favours and payoffs happen to get this scumbag an article in the uk guardian, a guest spot on democracy now, or as a signatory on some open letter alongside noam chomsky.

which is also why it is vexing to see people like r*bert e*ans being so recklessly boosted as any kind of authority to people. he is also an enemy.

gh0stpinballa has issued a correction as of 19:48 on Jun 28, 2020

Elderbean
Jun 10, 2013


Its amazing how these people are always catapulted into fame from nowhere and how obvious it is relative to people who actually built a reputation.

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

gh0stpinballa posted:

r*bert e*ans

I liked the it could happen here podcast, it was kind of my onramp to taking things a little more seriously

mark immune
Dec 14, 2019

put the teacher in the cope cage imo

Emma Quangel was right all this time

https://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/comments/406dyp/molly_crabapple_doxes_a_twitter_communist_to_get/

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"

gh0stpinballa posted:

every couple of years newcomers find out who this literal nazi sympathizer, occupy informant, stalker, pentagon stooge, CIA operative, and imperialist shill really is, and it's in those moments, looking at how they react, that you discover whether they have the stomach for this here game. cos when the spiderweb of connections sprawling from just this one fascist goth spook is laid bare, it is a true moment of revelation. you realize just how far They will go in pursuit of their objectives, how many phonecalls and favours and payoffs happen to get this scumbag an article in the uk guardian, a guest spot on democracy now, or as a signatory on some open letter alongside noam chomsky.

which is also why it is vexing to see people like r*bert e*ans being so recklessly boosted as any kind of authority to people. he is also an enemy.

Sympathizer? She's a Nazi fucker

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

https://twitter.com/irenicpoet/status/1277296153365606400?s=19

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

gh0stpinballa posted:


which is also why it is vexing to see people like r*bert e*ans being so recklessly boosted as any kind of authority to people. he is also an enemy.
Okay, what don't I know? I basically listen to most of his stuff and love BtB.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

jojoinnit posted:

Okay, what don't I know? I basically listen to most of his stuff and love BtB.

Evans works for Bellingcat and had to purge his tweets of pro-regime change takes

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
Ah Teen Vogue is bad now? Thought they took a turn left

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

Dumb Lowtax posted:

Ah Teen Vogue is bad now? Thought they took a turn left

idk read the article homeboy

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Dumb Lowtax posted:

Ah Teen Vogue is bad now? Thought they took a turn left

Lmao

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

I read teen vogue for the articles

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
How can any billionaire controlled mass media "go left"? People like you are dangerously credulous

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Perry Mason Jar posted:

How can any billionaire controlled mass media "go left"? People like you are dangerously credulous

even independent "left wing" magazines have been run/boasted by the CIA
https://www.theawl.com/2015/08/literary-magazines-for-socialists-funded-by-the-cia-ranked/

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
I don't read it never clicked it or know what it is, wouldn't recognize it or trust it, all I heard at some point this year was left Twitter joking about "welcome to the revolution, Teen Vogue" and "First Teen Vogue and now Britney Spears? Welcome comrade". Someone was credulous, yeah

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

stolen from twoday in the UK thread

https://twitter.com/FullFact/status/1277285632415596545?s=20

quote:

Mr Starmer was head of the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) when the decision not to prosecute Savile was made on the grounds of “insufficient evidence”. The allegations against Savile were dealt with by local police and a reviewing lawyer for the CPS.

...

When the investigation report was published in January 2013, Mr Starmer said in a statement that he accepted the conclusions and hoped it would be a “watershed moment” for the CPS.

He said: “I would like to take the opportunity to apologise for the shortcomings in the part played by the CPS in these cases.

“These were errors of judgement by experienced and committed police officers and a prosecuting lawyer acting in good faith and attempting to apply the correct principles. That makes the findings of Ms Levitt’s report more profound and calls for a more robust response.”


...
A spokesperson for the CPS said that, “in line with the established data retention policy”, none of the records for the decision not to charge Savile in 2009 were kept.

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

That Molly Crabapple poo poo is wild, I only vaguely recalled her from, like Warren Ellis' online proximity from forever ago. I think maybe she was one of the ladies he appointed as mods for his site? He is/was a huge simp for that type of girl.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Didn't Ellis get metoo'd

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


StashAugustine posted:

Didn't Ellis get metoo'd

He did.

I still don't understand who Molly Crabapple is. I thought she was a musician but I guess I'm mixing her up with other people.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Doc Hawkins posted:

He did.

I still don't understand who Molly Crabapple is. I thought she was a musician but I guess I'm mixing her up with other people.

She's a poster who seemingly only gets engagement from people who explicitly don't like her and is able to get payed six or seven figures for the pleasure

Basically a superior person compared to everyone dunking on her

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005
shes a poster like you, except shes good at it

The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

gh0stpinballa posted:

which is also why it is vexing to see people like r*bert e*ans being so recklessly boosted as any kind of authority to people. he is also an enemy.

Does anyone have anything to back this up except "he writes for Belligcat sometimes?"

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

The Atomic Man-Boy posted:

Does anyone have anything to back this up except "he writes for Belligcat sometimes?"










I could keep going but suffice it to say that Robert Evans is himself part of that regime change, interventionist ecosystem.

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

it's interesting to watch how they operate tho, how they infiltrate spaces. sometimes i wonder what the point is in keeping these guys on the payroll. but then you look at how well meaning leftist people itt and the cool zone thread etc have been had and, well, there it is. if i was confident enough i would make a thread for it, a guide to not getting captured and so on.

The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

gradenko_2000 posted:


I could keep going but suffice it to say that Robert Evans is himself part of that regime change, interventionist ecosystem.

Ah. I see why they keep him around.

Even if those are sincerely held beliefs, woof. I guess that's why you pay to keep well-meaning leftist around, even if they're 90% against you, the remaining 10% that supports your regime change carries much more weight.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Robert Evans does not only say that regime change is good because he's paid to, i am conviced he believes it.

He seems afraid that if anything sufficiently cool happens in America there's no one who could invade us to save us.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

Someone parse what I'm looking at for me please.

animist
Aug 28, 2018
maybe I oughtta swap out this gangtag :thunk:

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theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

night danger posted:

Someone parse what I'm looking at for me please.

a person paid directly by the ruling class is offering critiques of Lenin


also I love New America’s wiki page. their largest and most recent accomplishment that isn’t just paying journalists to fellate capital is a 10 year old Wi-Fi network in one of the smallest neighborhoods in Brooklyn on a revenue of $40m per year

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