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The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

My favorite part of pro-Maduro-overthrow pundits is they can't ever point to a single terrible thing the guy has done. It's usually "wow, this guy is bad and so goddamned crazy, he thinks the CIA and Columbia are out to overthrow him!"

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Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
LMAO looking up Molly Crabapple and she's a straight up spook.


quote:

Crabapple learned Arabic and traveled to Turkey and Turkish Kurdistan.[60] Near the Syrian border, she was detained by police for a short period.[16][61] Her impressions of the artistry and culture of the Ottoman Empire in the Near East would come to influence her style and work.[16][17]

That's some loving B-grade spy movie cover.

I mean it worked, but drat.

https://twitter.com/KingK4hn/status/1277107799198179329?s=20

Wasabi the J has issued a correction as of 10:43 on Jun 29, 2020

nut
Jul 30, 2019

gradenko_2000 posted:

I could keep going but suffice it to say that Robert Evans is himself part of that regime change, interventionist ecosystem.

I don’t know anything about this dude besides that he makes pretty gross breakfast sausages but if someone whose tweets, at best, score 250 likes really being boosted?

animist
Aug 28, 2018

nut posted:

I don’t know anything about this dude besides that he makes pretty gross breakfast sausages but if someone whose tweets, at best, score 250 likes really being boosted?

bellingcat is a regime-change rag though

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
But don't we want regime change?

And where does that come from?

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


The Atomic Man-Boy posted:

My favorite part of pro-Maduro-overthrow pundits is they can't ever point to a single terrible thing the guy has done. It's usually "wow, this guy is bad and so goddamned crazy, he thinks the CIA and Columbia are out to overthrow him!"

you can go to the Venezuela thread in d&d to find a bunch of people from there who have more specific complaints

Penisaurus Sex
Feb 3, 2009

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The_Rob posted:

I’ve been praising the counselor since it originally came out. it’s a mean ugly movie but I think it’s extremely interesting and like you said touches on all those themes you mentioned. I always saw the message of the movie to be if you want to be a player within our system you’re directly involved with the horror of it all. even if you didn’t personally do any of it. No ones hands are clean. every one is complicit.

It's even bleaker than that.

The conversation at the end with Jefe lays it out clearly: there is a divide between normal people and those who truly have power, and when normal people cross that divide their lives are exposed as worthless. I watched it when I was still managing a bar at a fairly remote country club. Throughout that year, I'd interacted with probably a dozen billionaires personally, and it really cast the film (and my further interactions at that place) in a whole new light.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Robert Evans did have a cool video where he talks about 40k for two hours. He should just do that forever.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

MonsieurChoc posted:

Robert Evans did have a cool video where he talks about 40k for two hours. He should just do that forever.

Look I know weve all got problems with the Imperium but the stories of Tau atrocities cant be ignored,

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007
Malcador did nothing wrong

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
It's funny, TrueAnon is doing an episode about Steve Bing while Josh on the West Wing Thing emphatically stated Bing hated Epstein and never interacted with him.

Starting the TrueAnon ep, will see.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Doc Hawkins posted:

you can go to the Venezuela thread in d&d to find a bunch of people from there who have more specific complaints

Yeah, any country that had a refugee crisis and spiking food insecurity even before the (relatively mild) Obama-era sanctions kicked in (and well before oil prices went in the shitter) is probably not being run very well. Maduro's a bandit king sitting on the corpse of a flawed but broadly beneficial socialist state - it's just that that doesn't mean we should praise the ghouls in Washington for their absurd, inept attempts to replace him with their own preferred bandit king.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Darth Walrus posted:

Yeah, any country that had a refugee crisis and spiking food insecurity even before the (relatively mild) Obama-era sanctions kicked in (and well before oil prices went in the shitter) is probably not being run very well. Maduro's a bandit king sitting on the corpse of a flawed but broadly beneficial socialist state - it's just that that doesn't mean we should praise the ghouls in Washington for their absurd, inept attempts to replace him with their own preferred bandit king.

lol

Hatebag
Jun 17, 2008


1) Apply sanctions
2) Conduct destabilizing clandestine operations and literal coup attempts to engender forceful reactions from Venezuela
3) Genocidal regime change war to make sure american corporations control oil and stop the bad man
4) Pizza party 🍕

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/daniel_m_lavery/status/1277386063888166913?s=19

Laterite
Mar 14, 2007

It's Gutfest '89
Grimey Drawer

Wow. This is a must read thread. Watching Daniel's journey over the past few years has been incredibly compelling and I can't imagine the pain they've gone through on this. Daniel is a Good Person.

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

MonsieurChoc posted:

It's funny, TrueAnon is doing an episode about Steve Bing while Josh on the West Wing Thing emphatically stated Bing hated Epstein and never interacted with him.

Starting the TrueAnon ep, will see.

Link?

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

https://soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/once-upon-a-time-in-pedowood-teaser

Sorry, it's a patreon episode.

https://westwingthing.libsyn.com/bartlet-for-america

Josh talking about Bing is at the end of the episode.

The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

Doc Hawkins posted:

you can go to the Venezuela thread in d&d to find a bunch of people from there who have more specific complaints

Oh, I'm sure that the Maduro regime is full of mismanagement, graft and corruption. But the fact that I've never seen it pointed out in the media means that its small potatoes compared to the current US administration.

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

There are bushels of regimes that deserve to be overthrown, even ones that nominally call themselves leftist, but it's a pretty big stretch to think that America is morally equipped to be involved in such activities. We are probably the #1 problem with this planet. The best we can probably do is stop actively loving with other countries, and let the people in those countries decide when and how to give their power structures a comeuppance.

Maybe if the US actually manages a stable people's revolution, we can start asking other countries if they would like material aid in upsetting their apple carts. But that's just my lukewarm take, I ain't no foreign policy genius.

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 74 days!
fuuuuuuck i was absolutely not ready for this thread

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
Welcome to the thread. Today a cop plead guilty to being The Golden State Killer. Enjoy your stay!

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
https://twitter.com/mgafni/status/1277647449251704833?s=20

DeAngelo offered up a confession of sorts after his arrest that cryptically referred to an inner personality named "Jerry" that had apparently forced him to commit the wave of crimes that ended abruptly in 1986. According to Sacramento County prosecutor Thien Ho, DeAngelo said to himself while alone in a police interrogation room after his arrest in April 2018: "I didn’t have the strength to push him out. He made me. He went with me. It was like in my head, I mean, he's a part of me. I didn't want to do those things. I pushed Jerry out and had a happy life. I did all those things. I destroyed all their lives. So now I've got to pay the price."

2nd edit: A relative reported that when DeAngelo was 9 or 10 years old he witnessed his 7-year-old sister being raped by two airmen in a warehouse in West Germany, where the family was stationed at the time.

Okay so Programmed to Kill is mandatory reading now

Perry Mason Jar has issued a correction as of 00:04 on Jun 30, 2020

Hatebag
Jun 17, 2008


He was no dangelo

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020
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A4R8 has issued a correction as of 22:27 on Nov 8, 2020

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
Did you see what the TikTok teens found in Seattle?

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Did you see what the TikTok teens found in Seattle?

The dismembered bodies found in suitcases on the beach?

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
So there's at least one.

Zoodpipe
Jun 24, 2004

This is an important call. So, shut the fuck up.
Fallen Rib

A4R8 posted:

The dismembered bodies found in suitcases on the beach?

What the Christ?

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
It's weirder than it sounds, they found it using a quantum randomness geocaching app.

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020

Zoodpipe posted:

What the Christ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0b2D6APAw4

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1017805/tiktok-teens-find-luggage-human-remains-seattle-beach/

Zoodpipe
Jun 24, 2004

This is an important call. So, shut the fuck up.
Fallen Rib

Perry Mason Jar posted:

It's weirder than it sounds, they found it using a quantum randomness geocaching app.

“The teens say they used the Randonautica app, which randomly sent them to the shoreline near the popular tourist attraction Pike’s Place Market.”

BRB - have to go squeegee my third eye

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
Randonautica's come up in this thread already, way before this Seattle thing lol Jeffrey Epstein

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Randonautica's come up in this thread already, way before this Seattle thing lol Jeffrey Epstein

Explain thanks

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
Will do when I'm not on my phone.

Can anyone expand this list of cop serial killers?

Joseph DeAngelo
Gerard John Schaefer
David Stephen Middleton
John Christie
Manuel Pardo

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!
I downloaded Randonautica but still haven’t really tried it out.

OutOfPrint
Apr 9, 2009

Fun Shoe

The_Rob posted:

I downloaded Randonautica but still haven’t really tried it out.

Shame about the monetization, new content really costs an arm and a leg.

:dadjoke:

Now that I'm done reading through this thread I think I'm going to go have a lie down and some booze.

Danger
Jan 4, 2004

all desire - the thirst for oil, war, religious salvation - needs to be understood according to what he calls 'the demonogrammatical decoding of the Earth's body'
yea I started reading the Franklin book by nick Bryant because of this thread. then have started absorbing everting I can find kind fox island and my brain is pinged out of whack. seriously having to check my perspective

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

hello and welcome to the new crack pingers

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Elderbean
Jun 10, 2013


I mentioned it already but its eerie how little there is on The Franklin Scandal outside of the books and that one documentary that didn't air. The wiki entry is comically short and it just says that everything was proven to be a hoax so that's all there is folks!

Elderbean has issued a correction as of 02:55 on Jun 30, 2020

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