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We cannot understand the Chinese. They are inscrutable.
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UltraRed posted:We cannot understand the Chinese. They are inscrutable. Apparently the new term is "nuanced"
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Jun 26, 2020 20:44
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"Hong Kong will become like Taiwan in the future."
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Jun 26, 2020 22:47
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That's a new one for me, like is that some kind of insult on Taiwan? I mean I know Carrie Lam's tea party set get upset with the
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Jun 26, 2020 23:09
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:We can snuggle my cats a lil bit until you feel better. You are one kind and classy lady.
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Jun 27, 2020 00:13
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MrMoo posted:That's a new one for me, like is that some kind of insult on Taiwan? I mean I know Carrie Lam's tea party set get upset with the Yeah I'm completely baffled. Like the authoritarian narrative here is "if we let people "vote" and "have rights" it'll mean a failed state!" so why point at examples of non-failed states?
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Jun 27, 2020 00:40
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Voting and having rights is a failed state to the communist party.
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Jun 27, 2020 00:46
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Dont Touch ME posted:Who said they were excited to see that? I'm the one who posted the article and most people were making fun of the CCP for doing its normal face-saving dance routine. No regular here would clap and cheer at 100,000,000 mainlanders dying because of the CCP's lovely games. 95% of this thread is making fun of the CCP and the culture it has instilled in the lost generation which leads to such dire situations in China. In fairness, the post he's referring to is this one. WarpedNaba posted:If the dam collapses after the forums die, I'mma be pissed off. Which I understood as presuming the collapse of the dam was inevitable but I can see how you might not get that and I'm not myself particularly certain that is the correct reading.
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Jun 27, 2020 01:48
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That's the correct reading, I'm assuming that the collapse is more or less pre-ordained.
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Jun 27, 2020 02:50
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re: "We don't want Hong Kong to become like Taiwan." Is the official CCP line that Taiwan is a den of evil and horror? Do they think criminals run wild in unwashed streets filled with drug addicts and other "disharmonious" behaviours? Do they believe that only the iron fist of repression and chabuduo can save them? I mean seriously, apart from the obvious "having rights and being able to use them" stuff, what do they think is bad about becoming like Taiwan?
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Jun 27, 2020 03:36
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rebellion
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Jun 27, 2020 03:42
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MrMoo posted:
but who will be number 1?
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Jun 27, 2020 04:19
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Dont Touch ME posted:Another thing to seperate Taiwan from the mainland, if you learn to read mandarin, you really don't have to look very hard to find a mainlander espousing this attitude unironically. Eh, if you're going to ask the average taiwanese person, and at least when I'm teaching taiwanese history to taiwanese students, many of them don't know dick about the ming/qing migrations to taiwan and the removal of aboriginal groups from the western plain. They do know more about dutch/japanese atrocities that happened.
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Jun 27, 2020 04:54
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BrigadierSensible posted:re: "We don't want Hong Kong to become like Taiwan." I don't think it was a comment on the living conditions in Taiwan. They were saying they don't want to let Hong Kong slip into a Taiwan-like situation, where they are outside of the mainland government's control.
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Jun 27, 2020 06:34
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Devils Affricate posted:I don't think it was a comment on the living conditions in Taiwan. They were saying they don't want to let Hong Kong slip into a Taiwan-like situation, where they are outside of the mainland government's control. Yeah it was just grade-AAA human garbage bootlicking.
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Jun 27, 2020 09:47
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An excellent podcast for anyone curious about oppression of Xinjiang Uighurs for anyone who's curious, interested friends or spamming on CSPAM offsites: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1PnmaSMIsMVZiRP7fs812q?si=SWbbfpwQQ5SwA7aoiGn88A Popular Front is excellent in general if anyone didn't know about them until now.
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Jun 27, 2020 23:47
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53174079 Li Zhensheng: Photographer of China's cultural revolution quote:He noticed that the Red Guards - militant students - were getting access to photograph anything they wanted, so he decided to make an armband emblazoned with the words "Red-colour news soldier".
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Jun 29, 2020 01:58
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In whacky China vs Australia news: You know that organized state authorized cyber hack that the CCP recently did on Australia? Well it turns out that it is us filthy Vegemite eating Aussies who are the real spies. This is of course a serious and credible accusation, and not at all the next step in a CCP pissbaby tantrum. https://www.afr.com/world/asia/chinese-newspaper-accuses-australia-of-spying-offensive-20200629-p5575k This follows the Australian Federal Police raiding the home of a NSW MP with links to Beijing and suspiciously pro CCP views. Which has nothing at all to do with the timing of Beijings accusations. https://www.sbs.com.au/news/labor-rocked-by-afp-asio-raids-on-nsw-mp-s-home-and-his-links-to-china They have already sentenced that drug smuggling bloke to death, so after this "Nuh uh, it is you who are the spies!" claim, I wonder what their next move will be.
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Jun 29, 2020 02:46
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BrigadierSensible posted:They have already sentenced that drug smuggling bloke to death, so after this "Nuh uh, it is you who are the spies!" claim, I wonder what their next move will be. mail those canadians to north korea and say AMERICA DID THIS
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Jun 29, 2020 02:50
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BrigadierSensible posted:
<An Australian in Shanghai who used to be in his school's model UN and once donated to Amnesty International suddenly feels a chill running down his spine>
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Jun 29, 2020 02:58
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Blistex posted:<An Australian in Shanghai who used to be in his school's model UN and once donated to Amnesty International suddenly feels a chill running down his spine> Australian high schools don't have model UNs.  At least mine didn't. 
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Jun 29, 2020 02:59
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Is there any Aussie with "Michael" first name currently in China?
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Jun 29, 2020 03:16
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As things get uglier with China, and they most likely will, one of the only ways the communists in China can retaliate against developed countries is by harming and threatening the persons of their nationals in China.
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Jun 29, 2020 06:41
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In other, fairly limp-wristed news: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53094603 Trust the beeb to handwring over pseudoscience and quackery. At least they're taking a shot at the pangolin thing.
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Jun 29, 2020 06:55
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Speaking of ugly: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/uighur-china-birth-control-1.5630870
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Jun 29, 2020 10:59
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I'll always think back to the RDR video and the HK police saying "I can't breathe". China is literally too racist to exploit BLM even as a tu quoque
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Jun 29, 2020 12:02
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few years before gas chambers in earnest i guess
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Jun 29, 2020 16:39
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i kind of doubt they'll use any of the various mass exectuion machines out of history. the thing about the PRC is, as a hypercapitalist dystopia, it would never kill someone who's the wrong race or creed if a party member suggested they could be forced to work in their factories instead. though i might expect to see more and more interviews in the future that go kind of like this:  critics are calling forced uyghur labor a form of slavery it's not slavery this is very much voluntary but you hold leverage over them by keeping their families hostage did canada not hold leverage over their natives by keeping their children hostage perhaps we are more alike than we think
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Jun 29, 2020 22:46
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Yeah, I think they've realized post-Tiananmen that just straight up killing people is a blunt instrument that causes a lot of problems. I don't expect them to go death camps, why would they? Right now they're quietly exterminating the Uyghur culture with hardly a peep from the world. Killing them risks bringing actual international consequences.
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Jun 29, 2020 22:53
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The White Dragon posted:
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Jun 30, 2020 00:23
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Someone mentioned the Canadian government forced the indigenous people learn English. Am I remember it correctly or it was actually the Aussie government?
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Jun 30, 2020 00:28
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Many countries have forced language on their indigenous populations (or minority language groups). Canada, Australia, and the US all did that.
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Jun 30, 2020 00:41
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Hell, the French did it in France.
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Jun 30, 2020 04:12
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3 military ships flanked by 3 helicopters just came through Victoria bay. It was very ominous to watch and I've got no idea what it was about. I know they just passed that awful security law in HK but I can't say I expected to see something like this today. 
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Jun 30, 2020 05:11
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RIP HK I hope lots of people can get out to somewhere safe loving scumbag communists
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Jun 30, 2020 05:30
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I'm phone posting so the image isn't super high quality. I'm not seeing the military ships though. E: I guess I was expecting the (lol) much vaunted, cutting edge (completely not spontaneously combusting) PLAN destroyers and cruisers, and coast guard and maybe even the recycled liaoning. But, maybe they are busy hiding from the three that the US have close by for the past few days. (Nothing quite says area denial capabilities quite like having the opposition forces park up, fully tooled, in your neighbours house) url fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Jun 30, 2020 |
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Jun 30, 2020 05:45
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That one was just the helicopters. They came back around a few minutes after the ships went out of view, and flew south across the island. Here's some of the ships. Had to zoom in a lot so it's not the best quality. I assumed they're military related, they don't look much like what typically passes by.  
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bones 4 beginners posted:That one was just the helicopters. They came back around a few minutes after the ships went out of view, and flew south across the island. Those look like landing craft.
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Jun 30, 2020 07:11
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Cool, thanks for the extra pics. And yeah, those are suitably pointy and grey. Not sure what types. They're not so large as to be 'very threatening' The large buildup in Shenzhen before the planned 'police display' (back in October iirc) looked more ominous.
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Xerxes17 posted:Hell, the French did it in France. And England. A lot of people did it in England, come to think of it. Celts, Romans, Germans, Danes, Normans, Scots, Germans again...
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