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I saw a DW report about this that had an interview with the woman who literally worked with the CIA in Gitmo as a translator. I'm sort of confused about how the US has invested millions into Uyghur separatist diaspora and they only spokespeople that are promoted in the international media are the ones with the least credibility.
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Jul 1, 2020 00:02
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https://mobile.twitter.com/diaocollective lol
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Jul 1, 2020 00:46
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lol think he is a goon?
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Jul 1, 2020 01:12
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lets loving goooo https://twitter.com/HoansSolo/status/1278089078102253568?s=20
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Jul 1, 2020 05:13
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sincx has issued a correction as of 05:30 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Jul 1, 2020 07:59
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sincx posted:also Carrie's flag pin is very DPRK-esq Or, you know, US-esque
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Jul 1, 2020 08:08
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Lock 'em up!!
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Jul 1, 2020 08:30
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I'm super ignorant, but was Carrie's extradition law basically an attempt to save HK and prevent this? lmk
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Jul 1, 2020 09:07
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lol https://twitter.com/catdadaeternal/status/1277896565932412930?s=20
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Jul 1, 2020 09:22
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isn't this somewhat similar to how the US-backed Venezuelan "opposition" refuses to participate in elections and then they wonder why they can't ever win (in elections that the US will never regard as legitimate anyway)?
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Jul 1, 2020 09:28
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Vasukhani posted:I'm super ignorant, but was Carrie's extradition law basically an attempt to save HK and prevent this? lmk Basic Law says that HK need to established Article 23 laws themselves, but 4 HK Chief Executives has unable to get the law passed, so People's Congress used another backdoor in Basic Law past a similar but more narrow focused bill. It's also more powerful and far reaching. So in retrospect the political interest who represent the HK real estate capitalists should have sit down with the pro Beijing faction and passed Article 23 themselves. Because they may be the ones who will lose the most. The radicals high schoolers actually don't have a lot to lose.
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Jul 1, 2020 09:53
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Atrocious Joe posted:I saw a DW report about this that had an interview with the woman who literally worked with the CIA in Gitmo as a translator. because they're playing on easy mode, the only people who even question this poo poo are a few people here and there, the overwhelming majority trusts the media they may say "no I'm a skeptic" to a researcher because they think of themselves as a serious person and that's what serious people say but in reality it's the opposite
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Jul 1, 2020 10:18
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Alright, which one of you is the rguyovich parachute account?
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Jul 1, 2020 12:03
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twoday posted:Alright, which one of you is the rguyovich parachute account? we are all rguyovich now
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Jul 1, 2020 15:23
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The guyrovich was always in hour hearts, guiding you posting hand to the launch button
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Jul 2, 2020 13:53
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guide my posting hand to the lunch button
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Jul 2, 2020 13:58
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Now that they quit party politics, is Joshua Wong going to turn into a Weather Underground style revolutionary, or is he going to amplify the SUCC and just post mean tweets?
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Jul 2, 2020 14:02
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what does your heart tell you
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Jul 2, 2020 14:56
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Ferdinand the Bull posted:Now that they quit party politics, is Joshua Wong going to turn into a Weather Underground style revolutionary, or is he going to amplify the SUCC and just post mean tweets? that twig looking dork is going to join Guiado's League of Losers
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Jul 2, 2020 15:30
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Top City Homo posted:that twig looking dork is going to join Guiado's League of Losers https://twitter.com/PanopticPie/status/1278431317240287233?s=20
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Jul 2, 2020 15:55
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Ferdinand the Bull posted:Now that they quit party politics, is Joshua Wong going to turn into a Weather Underground style revolutionary, or is he going to amplify the SUCC and just post mean tweets? China probably want to scare Joshua Wong enough on the down low and make him smuggle himself out of HK so they will have one less problem to deal with. Jimmy Lai my theory is HK government will find a violation to throw him in jail. OT, but I got to give credit to Boris Johnson giving a decent path to HK BNO holders to immigrate (pending Tories approval.) Boris built his entire career out of Brexit, but he has done much more to HKers than the US and Taiwan, who have so far established useless laws and office. And Canada doesn't even do anything. stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 16:56 on Jul 2, 2020 |
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Jul 2, 2020 16:44
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Having him go to the US to be a protester in exile will pretty much prove china's point that he was a state department asset
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Jul 2, 2020 17:32
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It's entirely possible to believe Maduro is an oppressive fuckup, whose troops have killed dozens of protestors, without believing that Guaido should walk in and carve up the place instead.
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Jul 2, 2020 17:38
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https://twitter.com/Fio_edwards/status/1278653353250209793?s=19
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Jul 2, 2020 17:57
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Not So Fast posted:It's entirely possible to believe Maduro is an oppressive fuckup, whose troops have killed dozens of protestors, without believing that Guaido should walk in and carve up the place instead.
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Jul 2, 2020 18:03
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Not So Fast posted:It's entirely possible to believe Maduro is an oppressive fuckup, https://twitter.com/maduro_en/status/1278735108296577024?s=19
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Jul 2, 2020 18:15
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Venezuela is just a really badly run country, a classic failed state. Hugo Chavez nationalized the oil industry but not any bit of the financial system made no loving sense. The country is broken.
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Jul 2, 2020 18:24
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its all being run out of some back office in langley in the most incompetent way possible The american way
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Jul 2, 2020 18:37
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Not So Fast posted:It's entirely possible to believe Maduro is an oppressive fuckup, whose troops have killed dozens of protestors, without believing that Guaido should walk in and carve up the place instead. its possible and also a complete waste of time and energy much as "Stalin did nothing wrong" is the only proper response to liberal hand wringing, "Maduro is bae" (or whatever) and the "Lion Assad" is the only proper response to gish galloping lib performative focus on human rights in the global south I only discuss the intricacies of the failures of the Soviet Union or Maduro or whatever with people who want to learn and strategize, not with ghoulish and enthusiastic supporters of imperialism and white supremacy.
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Jul 2, 2020 18:49
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Not So Fast posted:It's entirely possible to believe Maduro is an oppressive fuckup, whose troops have killed dozens of protestors, without believing that Guaido should walk in and carve up the place instead. No it's really not: it is the duty of leftists to struggle against themselves against this belief or else be "implicitly' supporting Guaido if on a subconscious level. Sometimes the most rewarding victory one can gain is to defeat the centrist within oneself.
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Jul 2, 2020 19:01
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weird to see an SWP trot line up behind the PRC
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Jul 2, 2020 20:40
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https://twitter.com/XHNews/status/1277997778866548736?s=20 https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1278297922346647553?s=20 the liberals want to create a Cuban Exile style community for Hong Kongers. How soon before CIA weirdos try to convince Joshua Wong to blow up planes?
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Jul 2, 2020 20:56
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/XHNews/status/1277997778866548736?s=20 It's not like there was any huge obstacle to most Hongkongers leaving in the first place anyway. There's like 600,000 "Canadians" who live in Hong Kong permanently already.
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Jul 2, 2020 21:08
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Typo posted:No it's really not: it is the duty of leftists to struggle against themselves against this belief or else be "implicitly' supporting Guaido if on a subconscious level. Sometimes the most rewarding victory one can gain is to defeat the centrist within oneself. no one can possibly still think your bit is funny
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Jul 2, 2020 22:36
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stephenthinkpad posted:Venezuela is just a really badly run country, a classic failed state. Hugo Chavez nationalized the oil industry but not any bit of the financial system made no loving sense. The country is broken. The oil industry was nationalized before Chavez but under him, the state got more of the revenue and was able to adaquately fund social programs until 2012. Where Venezuela got into trouble (like a lot of developing countries) was attempting to keep its currency pegged to the dollar, the decline in oil revenues from 2008 to 2011 absolutely crushed their currency reserves and other issues with their import subsidy system helped drain the rest. There were indeed some terrible decisions going on. That said, before 2017, support for the government was steadily declining and it looked like the opposition would eventually take power. Trump's sanctions and Guaido's ill-fated coup took a bunch of pressure off Maduro, because the US actually confirmed many of the theories that the government had been putting out even though Chavez and Maduro had legitimately hosed up beforehand. American foreign policy at its hamfisted finest.
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Jul 2, 2020 22:59
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nodding my head, yes, vindicated that this thread was right
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Jul 2, 2020 23:06
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HK 2019 will go down as the most well equipted and OSHA compliance protest in the history of anti government street movements.
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Jul 2, 2020 23:22
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coming to the atlantic monthly... a month and a week from now: "how we lost hong kong," an expose on the half-hearted u.s. support for the protests which journalistic groupthink pretended didn't exist for the past year
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Jul 2, 2020 23:37
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so do i have this right? USA bankrolled a bunch of dudes to rile up students to protest some lovely extradition law, and now that law doesn't even matter because china 100% owns HK because HK couldn't handle its own bullshit?
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Jul 2, 2020 23:42
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this was all a deep undercover op by singapore to make them the new top Asian Hypercapitalist Citystate
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