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PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.

Doc Hawkins posted:

i see. how about the other two unidentified bodies they found while they were looking for hers?

also what the gently caress is wrong at Fort Hood?!?

And of course what the Army is really worried about is whether or not the SHARP program was successfull.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/07/02/suspect-named-new-details-released-case-of-missing-soldier-vanessa-guillen.html

Military.com posted:

"The criminal investigation has not found any connection between sexual harassment and Vanessa's disappearance," Maj. Scott Efflandt, deputy commanding general of III Corps and Fort Hood, said. "However, all sexual harassment allegations are being investigated, as they are in every other instance."

At Efflandt's request, Army Forces Command ordered a seven-member inspector general team to Fort Hood to review the Sexual Harassment/Assault Response and Prevention Program, (SHARP). The inspection will assess whether the command climate at Hood is supportive of soldiers reporting sexual harassment and seek to identify any potential systemic issues within the program at Hood, Efflandt said.

Phelps said investigators are aware Guillen's family members made statements early on to the media concerning sexual harassment allegations.

He acknowledged that agents uncovered statements on May 7 that could be considered sexual harassment.

"After subsequent investigation, another allegation of verbal harassment involving the same individual was discovered. However subsequent interviews have failed to [confirm] this allegation," Phelps said. "Nevertheless, we are still investigating."

PeterCat fucked around with this message at 12:37 on Jul 3, 2020

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Steezo
Jun 16, 2003
Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!


PeterCat posted:

And of course what the Army is really worried about is whether or not the SHARP program was successfull.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/07/02/suspect-named-new-details-released-case-of-missing-soldier-vanessa-guillen.html




Feres doctrine needs to die or this poo poo is going to keep happening.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


https://twitter.com/lizgarbus/status/1278761000775417861


2020 smdh

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 11 minutes!
SCOTUS doesn’t see anything wrong with that.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

BIG HEADLINE posted:

EVERYTHING'S COMIN' UP BETSY!

(seriously, that bitch has probably done the most damage to America's future - even more so than Trump's judicial appointments and systematic dismantling/ignorance of the State Department)

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

No.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
DeVos is evil, but she's not the caricature of it that Donnie has been, or McConnell. She's a huge piece of poo poo that's doing worrying things, but the judge appointments and state department are definitely more harmful.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
https://twitter.com/tammygolden/status/1278841407520661506?s=21

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

I know we keep saying infosec as a field is worse than anyone can possibly imagine but even so, my jaw is on the loving floor at this one.

https://mobile.twitter.com/immunda/status/1278783894683336704

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

shame on an IGA posted:

I know we keep saying infosec as a field is worse than anyone can possibly imagine but even so, my jaw is on the loving floor at this one.

https://mobile.twitter.com/immunda/status/1278783894683336704

Lol.

Like you know how each and every unit had that gently caress up that was good for nothing but idiot thread stories? That’s most of big business web developers.

Also archive.org is a better CDN then Akamai.

It got fixed, but fuuuuuuck.

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:

shame on an IGA posted:

I know we keep saying infosec as a field is worse than anyone can possibly imagine but even so, my jaw is on the loving floor at this one.

https://mobile.twitter.com/immunda/status/1278783894683336704

Can someone explain for us non-computer touchers?

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Mississippi with a bold strategy to maintain its title of "worst place in the south"

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


A Bad Poster posted:

Can someone explain for us non-computer touchers?

a huge bank was letting someone else run code in their customer's browser that could execute arbitrary commands, steal customer account information, or do anything else it wanted to do. a hacker or malware writer's dream.

they got away with it for a while because that "someone else" was most likely unaware and a benign entity

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

pmchem posted:

a huge bank was letting someone else run code in their customer's browser that could execute arbitrary commands, steal customer account information, or do anything else it wanted to do. a hacker or malware writer's dream.

they got away with it for a while because that "someone else" was most likely unaware and a benign entity

That “someone else” was archive.org. It would be difficult for a malicious third party to exploit this particular issue, but not impossible and the fix is loving easy to just host it yourself.

A good analogy would be someone having a copy of the petty cash safe able to be opened by a key held by a security guard who is perpetually asleep. Only because few people looked for it did nothing really bad happen.

Arven
Sep 23, 2007
I used to work for a competitor of Barclays, and unless you are someone who directly handles money at that kind of company you are viewed as an expense, and are paid well below market rates. This generally means that their IT departments are a revolving door of people just starting out and idiots who have managed to fail upward enough to have an impressive resume and sound like they know what they're talking about.

Also, did you know sometimes these companies get compromised, the FBI comes in, and they're told they don't have to notify their customers because they can't figure out what was stolen?

Hekk
Oct 12, 2012

'smeper fi

A Bad Poster posted:

Can someone explain for us non-computer touchers?

Internet sites are laid out using markup languages like HTML. One of the limitations of markup languages is that they can't do any calculations or manipulate data in any way. To get around this, a lot of site use another language called javascript.

Hosting websites costs a lot of money if the site is popular. One way popular sites sometimes reduce server costs and improve user experience is by using something called a Content Delivery Network (CDN) to distribute static content to servers around the world. That way when someone visits your website, instead of your single server being the bottleneck for pictures or whatever other high bandwidth stuff on the site, that content gets loaded from a server closer to the user.

Barclays was using the Internet Archive as a CDN to host their javascript. The key being here is that someone could have very easily modified the javascript on the Internet Archive and done all kinds of shady stuff with people's bank accounts and no one would have been the wiser since there is no sanitization of the content that gets loaded.

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

shame on an IGA posted:

I know we keep saying infosec as a field is worse than anyone can possibly imagine but even so, my jaw is on the loving floor at this one.

https://mobile.twitter.com/immunda/status/1278783894683336704

loving :lol:

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
I see.

Lol. drat.

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”

PeterCat posted:

And of course what the Army is really worried about is whether or not the SHARP program was successfull.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/07/02/suspect-named-new-details-released-case-of-missing-soldier-vanessa-guillen.html




I know of 2 SHARP reps over my 5 years in the Army that ended up sexually assaulting people while literally holding a SHARP position. One was a woman the other was a man.

The only reason I knew of these 2 was because I was around the senior leadership fairly often and heard about it that way.

Rather than making an example of them the Army would rather quietly sweep it under the rug and kick them out. More concerned about Army WTF moments and bad publicity.

Does SHARP work? Maybe, it certainly didn't seem to while I was in. This goes for both men and women as there are also female senior NCOs and officers taking advantage of males of subordinate rank.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

At least the military is getting good at being equal opportunity

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.
You know it's bad when even the rat kings start jumping ship.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1278120337402507269?s=20

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Mustang posted:

Does SHARP work? Maybe, it certainly didn't seem to while I was in. This goes for both men and women as there are also female senior NCOs and officers taking advantage of males of subordinate rank.

From my perspective as an old man, it's far from perfect, but it is so much better than when I was an LT. Reporting was not mandatory, CPTs were just appointing random LTs to investigate allegations with zero oversight, no real legal framework, just admin, to stop people who created toxic platoons to ostracize victims, etc. It is still bad now, but it was MEGA bad when I first came in. I'd say it's probably a tossup whether my college years were the most rape-filled sexually fraught place I've experienced versus my time as an LT.

I mean, when I first came in, it was literally commander's discretion (as in O-3, not O-6/7/8 commander) on whether or not to investigate things and even well-meaning commanders often just appointed a brand new 2LT or SFC to investigate allegations of sexual harassment and criminal activity. By the time I was a commander, the decision to not pursue charges on sex crimes was withheld at the O-8 level.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp

Milo and POTUS posted:

Mississippi with a bold strategy to maintain its title of "worst place in the south"

A song as timeless as Mississippi is terrible:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7fgB0m_y2I

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

I honestly can't tell if this is a joke or not.

I'm leaning towards joke because of the coherent sentences.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

PLEASE IGNORE ALL THE TIMES WHEN I WAS THE LOUDEST VOICE DOING THIS.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





not caring here posted:

I honestly can't tell if this is a joke or not.

I'm leaning towards joke because of the coherent sentences.

If you tweak your back weightlifting it's because you have no idea what you're doing, so it's a far more accurate analogy than they probably intended

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

If you tweak your back weightlifting it's because you have no idea what you're doing, so it's a far more accurate analogy than they probably intended

Nah, that and the "you gotta crash a few cars to drive" makes me think it's a joke.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011


The republican party going economically left would be formidable. At the rise of trumpism I thought/worried that was the future. But if moving the democratic party left is almost (?) impossible when the power structures there are less corporate and more democratic, and the ideology of the democratic base is nominally left, there is exactly zero chance of tucker, Trump 2 or anyone else pulling it off in the conservative party. ExxonMobil does not want a economically left republican party so there will never be one. They're going to keep coming back to culture war bullshit because that's the most populist they can be within their allowable parameters imo.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!

Xakura posted:

Nah, that and the "you gotta crash a few cars to drive" makes me think it's a joke.

A race car driver is probably going to smash up a car now and then, even if it's just in practice. But even a professional target shooter should never have an ND.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
Racism plus actual social economy populism would be a hell of a drug.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

mlmp08 posted:

Racism plus actual social economy populism would be a hell of a drug.

FDR could have been king if he wanted.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Xakura posted:

Nah, that and the "you gotta crash a few cars to drive" makes me think it's a joke.

You have more faith in people than I do

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=948-2Vzgi3w

Handsome Ralph fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Jul 3, 2020

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

mlmp08 posted:

Racism plus actual social economy populism would be a hell of a drug.

Isn't that what a lot of fascist governments did?

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

Stultus Maximus posted:

Isn't that what a lot of fascist governments did?

Thats what they sold. Its not what they did.

Beepity Boop
Nov 21, 2012

yay

CNN reporting that Vanessa Guillen's family had told their lawyer that she "had planned to file a harassment complaint against Robinson the day after she was killed, and that they believe Robinson became enraged when she told him that." Worded really wonky, but it sounds they're saying like she told Robinson (the one who killed himself when police confronted him) that she was going to file harassment against him, so he killed her to prevent that.

WaPo reporting that Fort Hood CID says "We are still investigating their interactions but at this time there is no credible information for reports that specialist Robinson sexually harassed specialist Guillen," but if she was murdered before filing her complaint then that falls right into standard "if it's not on paper, it never happened" mil bullshit.

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

Stultus Maximus posted:

Isn't that what a lot of fascist governments did?

Strasserism is a thing, but I don't know how common it has been in the years since fascism arrived on the scene.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!

MRC48B posted:

Thats what they sold. Its not what they did.

This was a fun one

https://www.ndr.de/geschichte/chronologie/Die-Gruendung-des-Volkswagenwerks-1938,vwwerk2.html

quote:

"You have to save five marks a week - if you want to drive in your own car!" This slogan was followed by more than 300,000 savers in the German Empire until the late 1930s. The financing model promised almost unbelievable: a "Volkswagen" affordable for everyone, which Adolf Hitler had already announced to his "peers" in 1934.

And the Germans saved - week after week they put their brands on the savings card, hoping for their own car. The problem with this: The advertised car didn't even exist. Not even the factory where it could have been built. Hundreds of thousands had already signed a savings contract when the foundation stone for the Volkswagen plant was laid on May 26, 1938, near the town of Fallersleben in Lower Saxony.

But the so-called power-through-joy car was never built. At the beginning of the war, production was switched to armaments. Private cars were still reserved for a small, privileged class.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Beepity Boop posted:

CNN reporting that Vanessa Guillen's family had told their lawyer that she "had planned to file a harassment complaint against Robinson the day after she was killed, and that they believe Robinson became enraged when she told him that." Worded really wonky, but it sounds they're saying like she told Robinson (the one who killed himself when police confronted him) that she was going to file harassment against him, so he killed her to prevent that.

WaPo reporting that Fort Hood CID says "We are still investigating their interactions but at this time there is no credible information for reports that specialist Robinson sexually harassed specialist Guillen," but if she was murdered before filing her complaint then that falls right into standard "if it's not on paper, it never happened" mil bullshit.

SHARP can't fail lol

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That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy



Lmao Elon Musk needs new material.

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