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Warbadger posted:Wait a minute, does the artist (and presumably a large group of idiots) really think wearing a mask cuts off oxygen? Despite everyone walking around them with masks on and distinctly not falling over dead without oxygen? Yes they think cloth doesn’t block the virus but somehow blocks oxygen molecules that are 100x smaller.
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Warbadger posted:Wait a minute, does the artist (and presumably a large group of idiots) really think wearing a mask cuts off oxygen? Despite everyone walking around them with masks on and distinctly not falling over dead without oxygen? If you could make fan death a partisan issue then yes.
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bird with big dick posted:Yes they think cloth doesn’t block the virus but somehow blocks oxygen molecules that are 100x smaller. I mean I can see that level of ignorance. But when the argument is wearing a mask will suffocate you while they're obviously seeing people walking around in masks while NOT suffocating you'd think they'd trust their own eyes.
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Well then, give it to me straight friends, how much could I make being Trumps blood boy?
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Warbadger posted:I mean I can see that level of ignorance. But when the argument is wearing a mask will suffocate you while they're obviously seeing people walking around in masks while NOT suffocating you'd think they'd trust their own eyes. The only time I feel like I'm suffocating while wearing a mask is when I have to lift or carry heavy equipment and the mask gets in my mouth because I'm breathing too hard. Unless Karen and Becky are schlepping 50lb boxes all day then they can STFU
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Has anyone been able to find a source for actual N95 masks lately, particularly in California? I live in a fire-prone area of California, and for the last few years, having a supply of N95s has been a necessity just for basic “being outside without my lung function collapsing” purposes from about August on. With fire season fast approaching, and my house in need of a lot of repairs that I’m going to have to do myself before it rains again, I’ve been looking around for a supply and coming up empty-handed. I’d even happily take the ones with the valve, because I’m not going to be using them around other people, I just need to be able to breathe while up on my roof.
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someone linked to staples who have KN95 in stock, just got my 10 pack from ups I don’t know the difference between them and N95 e: https://www.staples.com/disposable-kn95-face-mask-10-pack-kn95/product_24448174 e: out of stock sry
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KN95 is almost the same as N95, the specs are nearly identical but KN95 is not NOISH approved. It's been approved due to the pandemic for emergency use and they're basically all you can get so you may as well: https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices...vid-19-pandemic Since staples is out I'd buy from Office Depot: https://www.officedepot.com/catalog/search.do?Ntt=kn95 If they run out there's some in stock at Monoprice: https://www.monoprice.com/search/index?keyword=kn95
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Jul 3, 2020 22:26
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When in trouble, pee on a rag
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Jul 3, 2020 22:27
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https://www.amazon.com/Vogmask-Single-Valve-Noir-Large/dp/B01MQT95HU?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1 There are these but I'm not sure how they compare to N95. On the plus side you can get one with bees!
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Jul 3, 2020 22:30
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Jul 3, 2020 22:31
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The little carbon filter doesn't do much besides make it harder to breath, or has a plastic bin that bumps again your mouth. Friends who bought those type of masks stopped using them and just went with n95, surgical, it home made ones.
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Kestral posted:Has anyone been able to find a source for actual N95 masks lately, particularly in California? Have you tried the home centers? I’ve heard they keep a stash for the contractors and not the rando lanky hipsters looking for masks you just gotta ask the right way.
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Kestral posted:Has anyone been able to find a source for actual N95 masks lately, particularly in California? These kind seem to be in stock even with the genuine 3M. https://www.amazon.com/3M-2097-Particulate-Filter-Organic/dp/B00328IAO0 https://www.amazon.com/3M-Advanced-Particulate-Filter-Count/dp/B07ZG25BY5 With those you also need to get the 3M Personal Protective Equipment Half Facepiece Reusable Respirator but there are tons of those in stock in lots of styles. https://www.amazon.com/3M-Thermoplastic-Elastomer-Respirator-Connection/dp/B00W632D68 https://www.amazon.com/3M-6502-Respirator-Harness-Connection/dp/B00478E87W They look silly but are comfortable to wear and seal really well. And if you're at home it doesn't matter that you look silly.
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Lacrosse posted:The only time I feel like I'm suffocating while wearing a mask is when I have to lift or carry heavy equipment and the mask gets in my mouth because I'm breathing too hard. Unless Karen and Becky are schlepping 50lb boxes all day then they can STFU A lot of Karens are definitely going around with an extra 50-100 lbs all day.
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I bought a two pack of KN95s at the gas station. They are pretty good and have a one way valve for easier and cooler breathing. You don't get the tight seal like with an N95 respirator, but that is probably because of the double head bands. Anyway, I see a 25 pack for 65 bux, doesn't have a valve. Waiting on reviews. Also waiting on my 100 pack of 'surgical masks' that I ordered in early May, should be here by the 25th.
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World War Z was wrong.
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I gave up on finding N95s and just ordered a box of surgical masks, they seem to work so far (not dead yet)
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Mithaldu posted:World War Z was wrong. Crap, sad news on Israel, last I stopped reading Covid news there they had it practically under control Iran, I’m guessing, just went with the “let’s not test so much ehhh, it worries people” strategy
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Social distancing does not exist at the grocery store today. At least everybody was wearing a mask. Plenty of Kilroy-Was-Here, though.
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Mithaldu posted:World War Z was wrong. Otoh, I have evidence against people who claim a Romero style zombie apocalypse would never be allowed to get that bad.
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bird with big dick posted:Yes they think That's your misconception right there...they don't.
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How is this not much worse in developing countries? I assume a lot of it is just a lack of testing, but wouldn't there be significant excess deaths in countries like Egypt, India, Indonesia, etc if the virus was spreading rampantly?
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Waltzing Along posted:1st wave: goodbye grandparents. when do we get to the wave where corona virus infects the planet itself and hurtles it into the sun
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snergle posted:when do we get to the wave where corona virus infects the planet itself and hurtles it into the sun We're not in one of the good timelines.
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Are the grocery stores around you guys starting to get cleaned out of basic items again? I'm good on TP and paper towels it's the food I'm worried about.
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Youth Decay posted:Are the grocery stores around you guys starting to get cleaned out of basic items again? I'm good on TP and paper towels it's the food I'm worried about. Yeah, I'm in CLE and the prices are out of control. I always buy a big pack of TP when I hit the grocer. Well, they aren't out of control but don't bother reading ads before you shop, prices are not the same in the stores for 'reasons'
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Just as a heads-up, the monoprice KN95s are the ones made by DongGuan HuaGang Communication Technology, which have been recently removed from the FDA's Appendix A approved list, along with a huge swathe of other masks. Check what you're intending to buy against the FDA list if you can.Facebook Aunt posted:These kind seem to be in stock even with the genuine 3M. How are these for breathing while doing physical labor? They really do look like the only legitimate anti-smoke options around.
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Grainger has some r95 available. R95 is n95 but also rated for oil-based particulates. loving expensive though.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:How is this not much worse in developing countries? I assume a lot of it is just a lack of testing, but wouldn't there be significant excess deaths in countries like Egypt, India, Indonesia, etc if the virus was spreading rampantly? Developing countries have younger populations overall, but it's mostly just that the excess deaths aren't being recorded.
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Kestral posted:Just as a heads-up, the monoprice KN95s are the ones made by DongGuan HuaGang Communication Technology, which have been recently removed from the FDA's Appendix A approved list, along with a huge swathe of other masks. Check what you're intending to buy against the FDA list if you can. I've got a North by Honeywell respirator and it's easier to breathe in than the KN95 mask, although it's less comfortable to wear in terms of being a big piece of silicone strapped to your face, plus it makes it hard for others to understand what I'm saying. So, there's trade-offs. I wouldn't hesitate to get a respirator if you think you need one, though. I got mine mostly for sanding and painting.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:How is this not much worse in developing countries? I assume a lot of it is just a lack of testing, but wouldn't there be significant excess deaths in countries like Egypt, India, Indonesia, etc if the virus was spreading rampantly? A lot of developing countries have been through poo poo like this before and know their healthcare systems wouldn't be able to handle it so for the most part their citizens aren't acting like entitled morons.
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poverty goat posted:Some real commitment to the end times in the face of good news itt Non-news is being presented as good news. Saying that surface transmission is rare because we don't study it or really know anything about it is some big-brain thinking, like "I have a massive lump on my breast, but I haven't seen a doctor so I think I probably don't have breast cancer"
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bob dobbs is dead posted:they dont do poo poo This is a bad post. See that idea of posting that I didn't know was to be honest and show that I didn't know. Now when I get a response claiming to know poo poo without actually backing up the poo poo they say it's loving annoying. Here I'll do the research for you but mainly myself. They claim kf94. https://www.vogmask.com/pages/technical https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/difference-between-n95-and-kf94-masks/ quote:On the factor that most people care about (filtration) N95 and KF94 masks are nearly identical. However, there are small differences in other factors, such as breathing resistance and fit-testing. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0250/0840/files/Nelson_Labs_Viral_Filtration_1112598-S01.pdf?8699031093377030261 Okay thanks for posting I do love how we continue to get MASKS DONT DO ANYTHING style posts.
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Masks deprive you of your freedom of speech.
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Here's a handy chart you can post any time any of your idiot relatives plan on going to a bar or a buffet
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Here's a handy chart you can post any time any of your idiot relatives plan on going to a bar or a buffet Not sure if I should trust anything coming out of Texas, the Drowing in Lung Juice State for July 2020
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