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achtungnight posted:This game had a lot of mess-ups and its story is not well executed, so I won't be buying it. But I did watch one full game Let's Play. You don't like the story so you chose to consume the story and not experience the non-story parts of the game?
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I feel like so much of the experience of the TLoU is about the tension you are experiencing in the encounters themselves that watching an LP of it would be like watching a movie through wet swimming goggles. But I only play on harder difficulties because that’s what I’m looking for, if you play through on normal or easy just for the story I could see that not being important to you.
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Jul 3, 2020 17:53
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For what it's worth, while Abby is ripped she's not Monster Jacked the way PED-using high-end bodybuilder women are. It's entirely possible for some women to get there without supplements.
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Jul 3, 2020 17:57
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I don't get it either. It's like watching porn and skipping past the loving.
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Jul 3, 2020 17:59
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achtungnight posted:This game had a lot of mess-ups and its story is not well executed, so I won't be buying it. But I did watch one full game Let's Play. You spent 30 hours watching someone else play a video game, so in a way you did pay but not with money.
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Jul 3, 2020 18:02
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I thought the gameplay was largely speaking the least inspired part of the game, so I don't feel it's missing much. TLOU 2 is a story experience first.
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Jul 3, 2020 18:04
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Cardiovorax posted:I thought the gameplay was largely speaking the least inspired part of the game, so I don't feel it's missing much. TLOU 2 is a story experience first. I think anyone can be excused for thinking this but TLoU2 is probably the best stealth game of the generation and the gameplay here has more depth than you would ever need to explore even on Hard mode.
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Jul 3, 2020 18:06
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In It For The Tank posted:Not stand in the middle of the room where he would be surrounded by eight to ten soldiers with no weapons in his hands in the first place? Sinten posted:I don't think the diet is an issue, there are plenty of grown men around in the WLF who weigh more than Abby. As far as possibility is concerned, natural human muscular and strength potential genetic distribution is best expressed as a bell curve, like many other human traits. Abby has shown that she responds well to resistance training and has some genetic advantage. Women at the other end of the bell curve (disadvantaged) may find it to be impossible to achieve Abby's physique naturally. Yeah. Again, I wasn't really interested in steroids either way, it was just the practicalities of eating the amount of food necessary when it's basically bread, meat, vegetables rather than concentrated foodstuffs, protein shakes, I imagine sugar's rare etc. Particularly the excessive quantity of protein required for efficient muscle growth would, I imagine, be a bit more challenging as a gastric issue than is experienced in the modern world. In any case, it shouldn't matter, and I only brought it up because there was a buffgirl ITT - if we're going to tackle strict realism in games then I think we should start with "listening so accurately that you can tell if whatever made the noise is wearing a hat" first. And yeah, I completely agree that it's an insincere issue as its been pursued - nobody ever watched Mad Max 2 and said "hey, that Lord Humungus guy - I have an issue with his physique!"
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Jul 3, 2020 18:34
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Fallen Hamprince posted:For what it's worth, while Abby is ripped she's not Monster Jacked the way PED-using high-end bodybuilder women are. It's entirely possible for some women to get there without supplements. Not really, most IPF (i.e., tested hence supposedly natural) female powerlifters are not that jacked. Not even world champions. IIRC at some point she says she can push (bench press?) 185 in training, which is a pretty competitive number considering she appears 170ish pounds and ripped. She does look a bit unnatural in terms of bulk but not as much as a bodybuilder would. Regardless, I like the fact that videogame women finally look muscular when the role demands it. It's weird that this is still associated with masculinity/being a lesbian etc etc because to me muscles are muscles, they're kind of unisex. I don't think she looks pretty but that's because she has a very square jaw and a rough face overall, not because she's ripped.
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Jul 3, 2020 19:01
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Bust Rodd posted:I think anyone can be excused for thinking this but TLoU2 is probably the best stealth game of the generation and the gameplay here has more depth than you would ever need to explore even on Hard mode. really https://twitter.com/bonuseruptus/status/1278185722286145536?s=21
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Jul 3, 2020 19:01
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi-7KwM4GWI
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Jul 3, 2020 19:04
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I will never apologize for bodyshaming Lord Humongous.
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Jul 3, 2020 19:04
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In the same way I wouldn’t highlight Abby’s flamethrower as a good example of the stealth system...
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Jul 3, 2020 19:05
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Perfectly Safe posted:There is nowhere good that you can stand in a room with eight soldiers that want to kill you. The only place to stand and not die is outside the room. The point is to not to put yourself in a position where, if it turns out the group of armed strangers are soldiers that want to kill you, that you are surrounded and helpless. Joel didn't know that Abby's group meant him harm but demonstrated a startling lack of circumspection in not considering the possibility and standing in such a way that he was flanked on all sides, unarmed, and unable to see half the people in the room at any given moment. He might as well have worn a sleepmask and blindfolded himself since he was apparently so relaxed and comfortable. If he'd lingered by the door with his back against the wall, he could still get overwhelmed and subdued without looking like as much of an uncharacteristic dumbass. Instead, it was like "Joel needs to be incapacitated, let's just move this poo poo along".
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Jul 3, 2020 19:12
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People mocking let's plays in 2020... on something awful dot com.
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Jul 3, 2020 19:36
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In It For The Tank posted:The point is to not to put yourself in a position where, if it turns out the group of armed strangers are soldiers that want to kill you, that you are surrounded and helpless. Joel didn't know that Abby's group meant him harm but demonstrated a startling lack of circumspection in not considering the possibility and standing in such a way that he was flanked on all sides, unarmed, and unable to see half the people in the room at any given moment. He might as well have worn a sleepmask and blindfolded himself since he was apparently so relaxed and comfortable. Thanks for the lesson in tactical awareness in post apocalyptic survival situations 👍
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Jul 3, 2020 19:48
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In all fairness, it really is very out of character for someone who has been through the kind of poo poo that Joel has. That sort of "never let the exits to a room out of your sight etc." PTSD experience stays with you for a lot longer than four years.
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Jul 3, 2020 19:50
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He was probably thinking about how they were trapped in a blizzard surrounded by zombies
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Jul 3, 2020 19:59
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Necrothatcher posted:Thanks for the lesson in tactical awareness in post apocalyptic survival situations 👍 You're welcome. The best part is you can take my advice and apply it to real world here and now because "Be mindful of your surroundings" is actually one of the the most rudimentary self-defense concepts you can learn. Literally even children are taught it. Stay safe out there xo
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Hey does anyone know the name of the song playing over the stereo in the pool section of the slaver's base? It's saved somewhere on a years-old pandora station and I used to really dig it but I can't for the life of me remember the name of it. VV you fuckin rule thanks Admiral Bosch fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Jul 3, 2020 |
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Jul 3, 2020 21:45
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Admiral Bosch posted:Hey does anyone know the name of the song playing over the stereo in the pool section of the slaver's base? It's saved somewhere on a years-old pandora station and I used to really dig it but I can't for the life of me remember the name of it. Young Men Dead - The Black Angels
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Jul 3, 2020 21:48
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I recognized it immediately because my buddy worked on this Zune commercial like 12 years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdAzcLNb1As
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Jul 3, 2020 21:57
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I just realised that the rage and controversy about Abby being in this game and Joel dying is just like Metal Gear Solid 2 and Raiden. Imagine the internet's reaction to having to play as skinny little Raiden instead of Cool Badass Solid Snake with no warning. Honestly I loved the weird plot to MGS2 and I was only like, 12 when that game came out.
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Caesar Saladin posted:I just realised that the rage and controversy about Abby being in this game and Joel dying is just like Metal Gear Solid 2 and Raiden. Imagine the internet's reaction to having to play as skinny little Raiden instead of Cool Badass Solid Snake with no warning. Honestly I loved the weird plot to MGS2 and I was only like, 12 when that game came out. MGS2 was the only one I can think of doing that. The next closest to that was Assassin's Creed 3 and that one started off with you playing the villain and only discovering that as the prologue ended.
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Caesar Saladin posted:I just realised that the rage and controversy about Abby being in this game and Joel dying is just like Metal Gear Solid 2 and Raiden. Imagine the internet's reaction to having to play as skinny little Raiden instead of Cool Badass Solid Snake with no warning. Honestly I loved the weird plot to MGS2 and I was only like, 12 when that game came out. I can remember the internet's reaction to the MGS2 switch really well. People were really mad and there was a tonne of homophobia, but the TLOU2 reaction feels way meaner and focused.
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Caesar Saladin posted:I just realised that the rage and controversy about Abby being in this game and Joel dying is just like Metal Gear Solid 2 and Raiden. Imagine the internet's reaction to having to play as skinny little Raiden instead of Cool Badass Solid Snake with no warning. Honestly I loved the weird plot to MGS2 and I was only like, 12 when that game came out. I would imagine the reaction would have been exponentially worse if Raiden had killed snake instead of reacting to him like a starstruck fanboy.
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It helps a lot that everyone in Metal Gear Solid games tends to be fairly charming and likable in their own way, even the villains. You get people arguing about how they wanted a different player character, but there's no bite to it in the way there is for a game that takes itself as seriously as TLOU 2 does.
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Cardiovorax posted:It helps a lot that everyone in Metal Gear Solid games tends to be fairly charming and likable in their own way, even the villains. You get people arguing about how they wanted a different player character, but there's no bite to it in the way there is for a game that takes itself as seriously as TLOU 2 does. Keep in mind we're looking at an over time change for Raiden, there were definitely a lot of people who insulted him, called him lame, made 'funny comments' about him leading in to MGS4. I think MGS2 though has had some benefits to it. 1. It's extremely relevant to modern day, the message of a story told in it while not unique in fiction was unique for a lot of people playing video games. 2. Raiden's not a bad character. Now I'm not saying Abby is even if I don't like her, what I'm saying is when you go back and look at Raiden's story and growth and character... it's really well structured. So the hatred towards him is definitely one that, once over the initial hump, tends to mellow out, especially aided by, as you said, the game being coy with itself. 3. MGS2 is a fun game to play and it did evolve the formula used in MGS1. In the end no matter how you felt about Raiden, his game was pretty fuckin' fun to play. I think what wound up killing the Raiden hatred for good was a combination of MGS4 and then Revengeance.
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Onmi posted:Keep in mind we're looking at an over time change for Raiden, there were definitely a lot of people who insulted him, called him lame, made 'funny comments' about him leading in to MGS4. I think MGS2 though has had some benefits to it.
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I have blissfully and willingly avoided any media surrounding TLoU2 and I honestly might just keep it that way. Slogging through thousands of disgusting homophobes and sexists who self-own by skipping one of the best games and stories of the generation because you are angry that a digital man was punished for his crimes by the angry daughter of the man he killed (to save his own ‘daughter’)... yeah miss me with that.
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Onmi posted:I think what wound up killing the Raiden hatred for good was a combination of MGS4 and then Revengeance. I liked Raiden a hell of a lot more before they turned him into an anime cyborg. (I love all of those games though so  ).Bust Rodd posted:I have blissfully and willingly avoided any media surrounding TLoU2 and I honestly might just keep it that way. Slogging through thousands of disgusting homophobes and sexists who self-own by skipping one of the best games and stories of the generation because you are angry that a digital man was punished for his crimes by the angry daughter of the man he killed (to save his own ‘daughter’)... yeah miss me with that. 
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stev posted:I liked Raiden a hell of a lot more before they turned him into an anime cyborg. (I love all of those games though so
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Except Revengeance Raiden is actually badass. Dude parried a skyscraper size sword and ran up into the sky on rockets. Him being edgy doesn't change that.
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Jul 4, 2020 14:42
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Yeah, but that's not also not the part that's funny about it.
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By the way, MGR: R is a much better video game than the Last of Us 2, and if you don't want to play it, Chip Cheezum did an excellent LP of it you can find quite easily by googling.
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Gologle posted:By the way, MGR: R is a much better video game than the Last of Us 2, and if you don't want to play it, Chip Cheezum did an excellent LP of it you can find quite easily by googling. What MGR lacks in emotional catharsis it makes up for in cyborg spine slicing.
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Jul 4, 2020 14:58
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MGR has a lot of emotional catharsis. Raiden is at least as angry at lovely politicians as I am.
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The final Abby fight would be amazing if it was soundtracked by a buttrock song about revenge(ance).
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Taking a break from cutting people’s throats out for a lengthy codec conversation about memes.
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