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jesus WEP posted:can’t wait to see their double entry bookkeeping first time i've heard of a company being in the brown
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spent 6 hours doing video chats for a pseudo onsite last week. they just called to let me know they're not making an offer because they want someone with "more experience shipping software"  despite the fact that they reached out to me knowing I'm a student about to graduate... and I've shipped and supported like 5 pieces of software. wonder what the real reason was
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animist posted:spent 6 hours doing video chats for a pseudo onsite last week. they just called to let me know they're not making an offer because they want someone with "more experience shipping software" Like every other company they had no idea what they wanted and wasted a bunch of your time finding out. Sorry!
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There's a good chance that the recruiter and hiring manager were not on the same page until after your interview. Hanlon's razor and all that.
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animist posted:spent 6 hours doing video chats for a pseudo onsite last week. they just called to let me know they're not making an offer because they want someone with "more experience shipping software" sorry for you man! at least they didn't ghost you after three interviews like some other company did to me. basically waiting to get a job to name and shame on glassdoor and send an e-mail telling them what i think
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Achmed Jones posted:don't send them an email, but do shame them on Glassdoor This. I feel stupid leaving reviews for anything but did once when I got a take home that carelessly exposed some info on all previous applicants and got ignored when I brought it up. I'd like to think that review was helpful to somebody Also been seeing a lot of glassdoor reviews recently with the covid tag that let me know which companies ruthlessly spy on their employees, which is helping a lot
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Sleng Teng posted:Also been seeing a lot of glassdoor reviews recently with the covid tag that let me know which companies ruthlessly spy on their employees, which is helping a lot I'm not following, could you explain?
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I once had a coffee with the actual hiring manager for a "JVM" position and at that chat I was extremely clear that outside of university, I do not have Java specifically experience, despite having almost a decade experience in many other languages (C++, python, SQL, Perl, JS). Then I did their java based take-home and invited after that to an on-site interview. I thought I did really well, until I got rejected a week after they said they'd get back to me with the reason "the team decided to continue looking for someone with more Java experience". Don't even attribute these decisions to stupidity. I honestly put this down to a severe miscommunication between not only recruiter and hiring manager, but hiring manager and team, 2 red flags right there.
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The point being that don't beat yourself up about it, you can be rejected for any reason whatsoever, and a lot of the time it's got absolutely nothing to do with how well you did in the interview or how capable you would be on the job. Sometimes one guy just really doesn't like a candidate for literally no reason at all, nothing you can do about it. Learn what you can, but outside of that, take it on the chin and move on.
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Yeah. Having been on the other side of the table a fair bit it's also really difficult to know if you're making a good or bad decision between different candidates. I have been on hiring panels where six different people said "that's a yes form me" but no one was especially enthusiastic so the person with the final decision decided we should pass. The more people involved the more uncertainty there is about what hiring a specific person is supposed to achieve, and some interviewers may literally not be sure why they're even running an interview - they haven't seen your resume and may not even know what position you're interviewing for. Don't take this elaborate guessing game personally.
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Achmed Jones posted:I'm not following, could you explain? Lots of people working remote due to COVID and their employers spying on them through software. I've been seeing reviews calling that out
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this is real common feedback it’s possible that they thought at the beginning generic experience would make up for lack of subject X at the beginning of the process but after interviews figured out that wasn’t going to work or you suck and the lack of experience was a nice excuse or you sat in the interviewers favorite chair or they found somebody else it means nothing
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Rude Mechanical posted:Anybody got insight into what it's like working as a SWE-SRE for Google? I'm in the process of converting after a SWE internship, and there's a possible match with an SRE team at my office. I have no background in ops. Update: Offer extended and accepted. Not starting until January, but my wife and I are super-relieved.
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Rude Mechanical posted:Update: Offer extended and accepted. Not starting until January, but my wife and I are super-relieved. congrats, stack them benjis. sre is quite competitive at el goog iirc, and I know for sure they pay well
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a tech lead reached out to me directly on linkedin a few days ago. no recruiter or anything and he plainly laid out what the job was. just finished the first interview and they seem to be very enthusiastic with bringing me in, the money is right, and it'd be a huge decrease in my expected travel. the downside is the job sounds boring as poo poo 
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Saw this doozy in an Amtrak listing...literal full stack with 2 years experience:quote:Requirements: Must have a Master’s degree in Computer Science, Computer Engineering, Software Engineering or related technical field and 2 year of work experience in job offered or 2 year(s) of work experience in a related occupation. Some travel may be required to work on projects at various, unanticipated sites throughout the United States. Position requires experience with the following: 1) C++; 2) TSO/MVS/TPF; 3) Angular; 4) ReactJs; 5) VS COBOL II/DB2; 6) JCL/VSAM/CICS; 7) C# / ASP.NET; 8) PL/SQL/Informatica; 9) Java/J2EE/EJB/JMS; 10) AWS Redshift/Lambda/CLI/Dynamo DB; 11) WebSphere IBM MQ; 12) Python. This position requires pre-employment background verification, medical review, and pre-employment drug screen. So to anyone who is a cloud/mainframe/frontend/whatever TPF is, Amtrak's looking for you.
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Jul 7, 2020 22:45
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They have an internal candidate but need to make a public posting to comply with The Rules.
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ultrafilter posted:They have an internal candidate but need to make a public posting to comply with The Rules. this. and a huge fraction of postings are actually this, so never wonder when things are overly specific.
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who the hell knows aws/react/angular/python AND ALSO cobol/jcl/plsql like seriously the overlap of that venn diagram must be the empty set
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DELETE CASCADE posted:who the hell knows aws/react/angular/python AND ALSO cobol/jcl/plsql No, it's clearly one person, as people are saying, that already works there
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DELETE CASCADE posted:who the hell knows aws/react/angular/python AND ALSO cobol/jcl/plsql that seems like a pretty unremarkable "the one computer person for the past forty years" set of skills
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That makes sense. I was really struggling to envision the day to day for that skillset. They also have 2 other listings with the same title and lists of 12 random tech things. So three promos in the works.
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DELETE CASCADE posted:who the hell knows aws/react/angular/python AND ALSO cobol/jcl/plsql the only people i can even think of work for ibm lol
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carry on then posted:the only people i can even think of work for ibm lol i once wrote something on a plsql python stack ama
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2013 lurker rereg posted:That makes sense. I was really struggling to envision the day to day for that skillset. Their day to day is just the first 3-4 techs. It's just that they've been at the company for 20 years, and started when Cobol and bare C was the order of the day.
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DELETE CASCADE posted:who the hell knows aws/react/angular/python AND ALSO cobol/jcl/plsql yo this is an immigration hack so they can get that one guy from abroad by making it basically impossible for anyone else locally to qualify for the job by listing every random rear end skills on the guy's resume. it's not intended for anyone to actually apply to.
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Are the "minority outreach" job boards etc any good, or just a grift? It's the only possibly meaningful change work is making but they also seem way, way more expensive than normal candidate search. We're struggling to hire minority candidates (although have a not terrible gender ratio by industry standards), but I suspect that's about more than just not advertising in the right place. We don't normally use recruiters because they're terrible at this sort of thing but maybe specialist ones can help, idk
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Do you get to pick if you want gay or black or handicapped ?
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unpacked robinhood posted:Do you get to pick if you want gay or black or handicapped ? You can do that via your choice of outreach org yes.
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https://twitter.com/olvnsmth/status/1281013456163012608?s=20
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That looks like a typo for 1-2+, which has its own issues, but it at least doesn't require time travel.
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ultrafilter posted:That looks like a typo for 1-2+, which has its own issues, but it at least doesn't require time travel.
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jesus WEP posted:oh sweetie
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