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FacebookEmpathyMom posted:This whole thing falls apart even when you look at nations with internally open borders. US workers are harmed far more by industries relocating to the southeast and people still live in places like Mississippi and South Carolina, including some really gifted people who could easily make it in California or NY on the other hand what happens to southern and midwestern towns in which those very gifted people who could otherwise contribute to the local economies get brain-drained to the coasts
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so what's the solution, putting up border controls to stop smart or ambitious people from moving around?
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i'm not saying that's even a bad idea to have centralized control of where to put talented people, but "ah sorry b*tch you were born in missouri, and you gotta stay there" would be a great way to build massive amounts of resentment and bad politics
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THS posted:i'm not saying that's even a bad idea to have centralized control of where to put talented people, but "ah sorry b*tch you were born in missouri, and you gotta stay there" would be a great way to build massive amounts of resentment and bad politics this is why the berlin wall got put up
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THS posted:i'm not saying that's even a bad idea to have centralized control of where to put talented people, but "ah sorry b*tch you were born in missouri, and you gotta stay there" would be a great way to build massive amounts of resentment and bad politics this happens all the time even on c span. "gently caress i cant stand living in america, im miserable so moving out to aus/nz/finland/canada" followed by "loving coward, stay and go down with the ship and fight to make things better here!" but i agree telling people they have to stay put and stay in their place is kinda a lovely thing to do
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i don't even know what that poo poo means anymore. stay here for what? get an AR-15? what does this place offer anyone. i'm drunk and just really loving negative feeling about any prospects of reforming the empire. what a bullshit spectacle, it's not even fun as an adult
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the last off-ramp of sanders reforming this hell hole into something liveable i think was kind of true. the nation was tested by a social democrat who offered the absolute lowest level of meaningful reform, it failed, now we're in a recession and pandemic ruled over by literally the worst person to be in charge of such a thing. what a joke. it's Twisted
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remember those two months where bernie sanders was winning lmao
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Halloween Jack posted:[footage not found] that's fair Varinn posted:every single one of those fits always boil down to "leftists have standards"
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when i say that poor people are just incapable of seeing every kind of color, my conservative friends in the Intellectual UnderNet all nod and say how smart that is but my leftist 'friends' call me a "doodoo rear end" and say that I dress like jim carrey's the mask. this is why leftism will never succeed
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Shipon posted:on the other hand what happens to southern and midwestern towns in which those very gifted people who could otherwise contribute to the local economies get brain-drained to the coasts How are "very gifted people" going to "contribute to the local economy" in meth/fentanyl infested counties?
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MizPiz posted:How are "very gifted people" going to "contribute to the local economy" in meth/fentanyl infested counties? Someone has to cook the meth
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the collapse of the united states of america will be good for the world and to hasten it is admirable
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i say swears online posted:the collapse of the united states of america will be good for the world and to hasten it is admirable
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drink some water my dude
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i say swears online posted:drink some water my dude 
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I think a lot of people are struggling to realise that to the majority of people under 40 'patriotism' is literally meaningless because they effectively are already outsiders as far as every institution of their country is concerned, and the only form of nationalism that has any actual appeal is blood and soil fascism that at least acknowledges they have problems and finds scapegoats society has already primed them for
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THS posted:"ah sorry b*tch you were born in missouri, and you gotta stay there" would be a great way to build massive amounts of resentment and bad politics good news! speaking from experience, this already happened and it sucks
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Jul 5, 2020 11:32
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the wealthy base their companies out of major metropolitan hubs, talented people move to them in order to work and then the profit they generate gets funneled back via dark money PACs and campaign donations and all sorts of other poo poo in order to exert political control in states where thanks to the electoral college, some bumfuck in Ohio’s vote counts four times as much as that worker who moved to New York to make pretty pictures on the computer. it’s a pretty sick system all things considered
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lowtax mentioned in the latest patreon E1 ep. saying he has the rapsheet of a cop and also runs cop forums 
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THS posted:i'm not saying that's even a bad idea to have centralized control of where to put talented people, but "ah sorry b*tch you were born in missouri, and you gotta stay there" would be a great way to build massive amounts of resentment and bad politics would it be more resentment than "wow I'm sorry you're too poor to move to the place where all the people whose education you financed through taxes moved but that's life" edit: I'm talking about (south)eastern europe and similar countries, not america Doktor Avalanche has issued a correction as of 14:22 on Jul 5, 2020 |
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i don't really know where to put this but i found this great youtube channel on African history from an African perspective and i really want to promote it. Lots of great detailed summaries of important people and events on the continent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YS_cLaHdwY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1NkZn5P8UA
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Someone has to cook the meth lol
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Doctor Jeep posted:would it be more resentment than "wow I'm sorry you're too poor to move to the place where all the people whose education you financed through taxes moved but that's life" Yes, especially since most people recognize that you can't solve economic issues by just forcing the smart and talented people to stay in the backwoods. A far more realistic solution is to encourage those smart and talented members of their community to venture out and find a means to support the community abroad. Yes, it barely helps said community even when it goes how they envisioned it, but they gain nothing by keeping them there since many communities are so far removed from the means of production they effectively have a pre-capitalist economy. Edit: You should be able to tell immediately that these arguments are bad faith meant to mask racism by the fact that these supposed leftists are arguing in favor of regressing to a feudal-like economy. MizPiz has issued a correction as of 16:45 on Jul 5, 2020 |
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THS posted:i'm not saying that's even a bad idea to have centralized control of where to put talented people, but "ah sorry b*tch you were born in missouri, and you gotta stay there" would be a great way to build massive amounts of resentment and bad politics this is a whole thing with doctors - as soon as you even come up on your final year of med school you get inundated with ads from places like birmingham and tulsa offering you like 2-3 times your coastal city salary to move there and put down roots because there's such a physician shortage in these places turns out it's tough to attract highly educated/trained people to places trying to do things like outlaw abortion and the teaching of evolution and that are run by governments busy dismantling themselves like how do you even fix that? loan forgiveness already doesn't work, the "free market" clearly isn't sufficient, and some kinda mandate forcing them into these areas would just see MDs jumping ship to literally any other country, everywhere else is happy to take doctors after all
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:this is a whole thing with doctors - as soon as you even come up on your final year of med school you get inundated with ads from places like birmingham and tulsa offering you like 2-3 times your coastal city salary to move there and put down roots because there's such a physician shortage in these places you could put them on a circuit like the military, doing tours of duty, but being a doctor seems like a loving poo poo job anyways* so i doubt making them move every three years is gonna encourage a lot of people to want to settle down in those places once they have the option; if you’re ambitious enough to make it through college/med/residency, i doubt you’d be okay living even in the more urbanized parts of the deep south or midwest *for general practitioners and the people actually doing work, not, like, board members or whatever loving ghoulish hierarchy most private hospitals have in place
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https://monthlyreview.org/2018/06/01/the-birth-of-the-cuban-polyclinic/ Good info in here on how Cuba transformed its health system and revolutionized its physician corps. Would not all translate to an OECD context obv
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the military is already a route some doctors go through - they pay for your med school and you get a guaranteed residency spot (at some base in like alaska or something) which are p big incentives ofc as soon as they're done they hightail it to a coast, same as anyone else. though i'm sure it happens that some of them stick around the areas they did their residencies in, i haven't really heard of it happening. it's not really that unusual for all doctors to bounce around some anyway, typically for post-residency fellowship programs, since staying as a vanilla MD in family/internal medicine isn't where the money is
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Atrocious Joe posted:lol that perfume nationalist guy is having an extremely normal one this fourth ah, another third positionist cosplaying as a lefty. you love to see it. this is the podcast that Liz from trueanon went on. I wonder who else has guested on this fine show, let's take a look...  lol
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Hey, wanna hear a joke? Boyd Rice.
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oooookay this is all real dumb, what the gently caress liz
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Halloween Jack posted:Hey, wanna hear a joke?
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i say swears online posted:oooookay this is all real dumb, what the gently caress liz Yeah, why did she post all that?
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who is boyd rice
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THS posted:i'm not saying that's even a bad idea to have centralized control of where to put talented people, but "ah sorry b*tch you were born in missouri, and you gotta stay there" would be a great way to build massive amounts of resentment and bad politics this is the creed of Ohio
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commie kong posted:lowtax mentioned in the latest patreon E1 ep. woah, this is a new Two Weeks Paid Leave?
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Victory Position posted:woah, this is a new Two Weeks Paid Leave? They unlocked the premium but it’s not new new content.
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Serf posted:who is boyd rice Counter-culture figure from way back when. Satanism, noise/ambient music, sex stuff and "ironic" Nazi.
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Victory Position posted:this is the creed of Ohio i'd die in a hail of gunfire before being dragged back to that cornfield
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Serf posted:who is boyd rice if you don't know who he is, you don't need to know, he's irrelevant. if you do know, you know he's a shithead... that is, if you yourself are not a shithead. i have to post this cartoon every time his name comes up. 
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