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OwlFancier posted:I think it's more because the UK government is pathologically opposed to just giving people money, if it doesn't come with some sort of catch or ritual humiliation attached they can't do it. People must be made to do what they are told, not trusted to do for themselves. Is everyone got cash then the middle class who are still doing ok during the pandemic will just squirrel it away, if the aim is to get money flowing and to physical stores who are struggling this is a pretty decent idea imho
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:so what are you all planning to spend your gubmint money on Vinyl. Last time I was in HMV before lockdown there were 4 or 5 records I was eyeing up. And maybe go out to PC World and see what their SSD selection is like. Alternatively, gift cards from WH Smith for Amazon and Steam...
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universities taht arent oxbridge were already hosed and covid is just gonna make it a mercy kill. whos gonna pay £9000 to watch some skype video of an adjunct professor talk to themselves in a lovely cardboard box in tooting
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Given the ludicrous cost of uni these days, I've been kinda baffled how young people have continued to go along with it.
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Pistol_Pete posted:Given the ludicrous cost of uni these days, I've been kinda baffled how young people have continued to go along with it. AFAIK from people I've spoken to they still really heavily push the 'It's basically free, you won't even notice that you're still paying it off when you're 40' angle. That and the fact that having the 'uni experience' is still seen as a mandatory part of becoming an adult in a lot of circles.
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Pistol_Pete posted:Given the ludicrous cost of uni these days, I've been kinda baffled how young people have continued to go along with it. Doesn't really matter how much it costs if you never earn enough money to actually pay it back
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It makes it easier to get better jobs, even ignoring everything else.
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bump_fn posted:whos gonna pay £9000 to watch some skype video of an adjunct professor talk to themselves in a lovely cardboard box in tooting if they can combine it with gaming, dubstep and epilepsy-inducing subscriber graphics via Twitch then 
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forkboy84 posted:Alternatively, gift cards from WH Smith for Amazon and Steam... You can also buy MasterCard gift cards from some places that act the same as credit cards online, so unless they limit what you can buy then you can almost literally exchange them for money.
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Pistol_Pete posted:Given the ludicrous cost of uni these days, I've been kinda baffled how young people have continued to go along with it. force-fed from birth that its a necessity to get a good job (lmao as if those still exist)
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kecske posted:if they can combine it with gaming, dubstep and epilepsy-inducing subscriber graphics via Twitch then lol at the thought of an ancient Open University programme being streamed with the viewers spamming pogchamp in the comments for nine thousand pounds per annum.
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kecske posted:if they can combine it with gaming, dubstep and epilepsy-inducing subscriber graphics via Twitch then That's how I've explained to my son about the changes made to lecturing - I've been livestreaming speedruns of my usual classes. "Alright class this may seem like a strange sequence but if you type colourless green ideas sleep furiously you can instantly glitch right through behaviourist theories of language acquisition" pitch a fitness fucked around with this message at 09:55 on Jul 6, 2020 |
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:You can also buy MasterCard gift cards from some places that act the same as credit cards online, so unless they limit what you can buy then you can almost literally exchange them for money. I haven't seen one of those ages. I quite liked having one with £50 on it just for emergencies (well, the Visa ones) but haven't been able to find one in a few years which is a moderate inconvenience. I assume they were quite good for money laundering?
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Paperhouse posted:Doesn't really matter how much it costs if you never earn enough money to actually pay it back Which is in and of itself a huge problem, since it basically means university funding is a pyramid scheme, and now that new student numbers and dropping the whole thing falls apart (or gets bailed out by the government at huge expense). Also for a lot of major unis the lucrative poo poo is international students since you can charge way more and, well *laughs in covid-19*
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This is what we're up against: A comrade posted about Stanley Johnson being an over-privileged, entitled etc etc on FB. A friend of hers has posted 'Oh I LUV Stanley, he's great'. Comrade asks 'Why do you luv him?' Reply: "He's so funny on tv."
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I just got accepted for a conversion Masters in software dev so I just hope my Uni can stay afloat for the 2 years it takes for me to qualify, fingers crossed! But yea I also work for that uni and international students are charged 5 times as much. The place is gonna collapse
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:This is what we're up against: thank god the people own the beeb
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:You can also buy MasterCard gift cards from some places that act the same as credit cards online, so unless they limit what you can buy then you can almost literally exchange them for money. It’s literally thirty seconds of work to stop that happening
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forkboy84 posted:
It's trivial to stop them being used for gift cards - in fact if they code them as 'gift cards' the hard works already done - you can't use a gift card to buy a gift card. edit: ^^^ snap Red Oktober fucked around with this message at 10:31 on Jul 6, 2020 |
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Pistol_Pete posted:Given the ludicrous cost of uni these days, I've been kinda baffled how young people have continued to go along with it. If you're an 18 year old these days, which would you rather do? Try hard to get a minimum wage job where you'll be treated like poo poo and keep living with your parents in a palce with no young peppld, or move out go you uni and have a good time at uni around a bunch of others your age?
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Total Meatlove posted:It’s literally thirty seconds of work to stop that happening That's 30 seconds more work than this government is willing to do on anything, and 30 seconds more work than Boris has done in his life.
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stev posted:AFAIK from people I've spoken to they still really heavily push the 'It's basically free, you won't even notice that you're still paying it off when you're 40' angle. I know it's not the most popular opinion, but I think the best way to think of it is as a 'graduate tax'. You pay 9% on anything above 26.5k, so if you a) earn below that you don't pay a penny (and it's wiped after 30 years) b) earn just above that and you'll pay 9% on the amount above 26.5k until it's wiped c) earn a lot above that (55k+) and you'll pay 9% (above 26.5k) until it's paid off. They're not on credit files, they're taken at source; they're not really a 'loan' in the way we think of loans and debt at all. It's a tweak to the tax system in exchange for university and only IF you earn 26.5k or more.
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Welp, I've officially burned my Labour bridges. Now I get to enjoy whole pounds more a month, which I will probably throw at some sort of good political causes. Any suggestions for UK intersectional stuff? Particularly BAME/queer stuff?
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subscribe to fudge imo
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lol starmer having to sack another of his front bench now https://twitter.com/deletedbyMPs/status/1279459689911275520?s=20 https://twitter.com/SteveReedMP/status/1149578801870856197?s=20
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kecske posted:subscribe to fudge imo I would but my body is not ready for more sugar, I'm actually losing weight at the moment!
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lmao https://twitter.com/LeaveHQ/status/1279871372265734147?s=20
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https://twitter.com/JackleWiseVans/status/1280071537924636672 Honestly the long term implications of us never being able to talk about corruption and money behind the Tory party because the English Language is so steeped in antisemitic tropes is terrifying and almost too much to laugh at when it comes back to bite the very fuckers who enabled it so much. Almost.
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MikeCrotch posted:Which is in and of itself a huge problem, since it basically means university funding is a pyramid scheme, and now that new student numbers and dropping the whole thing falls apart (or gets bailed out by the government at huge expense). The sweet spot for universities when it comes to UK students are middle earners who will keep paying their loans off the whole time but not manage to pay off the interest payments, and eventually the remaining loan gets cancelled. I was lucky in that my loan was a mere £14K ans low interest, but I'll be paying it off until I'm 65 instead of it expiring at 25 years (unless I'm lucky enough to expire first)
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kecske posted:subscribe to fudge imo Enjoying a healthy monday morning breakfast, i see
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/JackleWiseVans/status/1280071537924636672 Can't wait to see nothing come of this.
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I swear that guy has done the same bit so many times. stev posted:Can't wait to see nothing come of this. Nothing has to come of it. It's just the stick they're going to keep beating the Labour party with regardless of who's in charge. Gonzo McFee fucked around with this message at 11:07 on Jul 6, 2020 |
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i didn't realise richard desmond is actually jewish
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Marmaduke! posted:The sweet spot for universities when it comes to UK students are middle earners who will keep paying their loans off the whole time but not manage to pay off the interest payments, and eventually the remaining loan gets cancelled. I was lucky in that my loan was a mere £14K ans low interest, but I'll be paying it off until I'm 65 instead of it expiring at 25 years (unless I'm lucky enough to expire first) I'm starting to come up on the 25 year limit and the student loan companies have started sending me letters asking me if I'd like to make lump sum payments? Maybe? To reduce the interest? Please? Lol no thanks lads I'll defer again if it's all the same to you
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bump_fn posted:universities taht arent oxbridge were already hosed and covid is just gonna make it a mercy kill. feeling personally owned by this post on many levels
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Nothingtoseehere posted:If you're an 18 year old these days, which would you rather do? Try hard to get a minimum wage job where you'll be treated like poo poo and keep living with your parents in a palce with no young peppld, or move out go you uni and have a good time at uni around a bunch of others your age? Jose posted:i didn't realise richard desmond is actually jewish
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vodkat posted:feeling personally owned by this post on many levels Because you paid £9000 to watch classes online, or because you live in a cardboard box in tooting?
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Red Oktober posted:It's trivial to stop them being used for gift cards - in fact if they code them as 'gift cards' the hard works already done - you can't use a gift card to buy a gift card. Heart wrenching development. Guess I'll just have to buy that SSD & more vinyl than I have storage space for, god save Rishi Suhnak's free £500
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