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Okay, good to know - thanks to you both about Outer Wilds. I'd heard it was good and was disappointed to run into that notice. In the meantime I've started playing Dishonored 2 and am experimenting with postprocessing again. I'm liking the results so far - it's interesting playing relatively recent games and having the CPU and GPU headroom to go crazy with settings and postprocessing.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Okay, good to know - thanks to you both about Outer Wilds. I'd heard it was good and was disappointed to run into that notice. If you like exploration games, you will really like Outer Wilds. Do yourself a favor and read as little as possible about it though, since the primary draw of the game is the exploration and learning about the solar system. The primary game mechanic precludes any kind of permanent inventory or upgrades, so the only thing limiting your exploration is literally your own knowledge of how things work. As you learn more, you are provided critical knowledge necessary to get to other places that originally may have seemed inaccessible.
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I honestly prefer playing with a controller in most games, I feel like everything is to hand, so you don't need to do a little remapping dance to find the buttons you need. It allows you to sit more comfortably. I started out with a wired xbox 360 controller in 2006, and eventully moved on to wireless xbox 360 controllers. I do have one xbox one controller, expressely because the chatpad is supported in windows. Edit: of course I had controllers before the 360 one, but it's there they became well supported and a good idea to have on hand. Anything but native xinput is not worth recommending, in my opinion HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Jul 5, 2020 |
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I am the same, I use controllers on PC which is hooked up to the big screen. I have found PS4 controller to be the best one so far, just ahead of the wireless Xbone pad. The analog movement curve, battery charging/life, ability to play it wired via USB, and force feedback pulls it just ahead. Steam supports it natively which is a huge boon. Eventually I will go back to m/kb when I sell my current place and move to a bigger one, with a nice desk, a 3080ti and a decent 1440p144 monitor to go with it. Just no space in my studio apartment right now 
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HalloKitty posted:I honestly prefer playing with a controller in most games, I feel like everything is to hand, so you don't need to do a little remapping dance to find the buttons you need. Yeah this is me. I really dislike having too many keyboard bindings because they never feel as second nature to me as controller buttons do in the heat of the moment. A gaming mouse with lots of extra buttons gets me most of the way there but things like high level Doom gameplay where you max your DPS by rapidly cycling between certain weapons are just beyond me.
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Party Boat posted:Yeah this is me. I really dislike having too many keyboard bindings because they never feel as second nature to me as controller buttons do in the heat of the moment. A gaming mouse with lots of extra buttons gets me most of the way there but things like high level Doom gameplay where you max your DPS by rapidly cycling between certain weapons are just beyond me. Controllers are are super preferable for me with fighting games and third person adventure games like Castlevania, Darksiders, etc. With KB/M though, it’s all about being familiar with where your keys are and making it muscle memory. It’s tough to get used to, but once you get there, KB/M is the best way to play pretty much anything that requires precision aiming or access to *lots* of buttons. That being said, if you’re happy with a controller for most games, then you do you.
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I have one of the Xbone Elite Series 2 controllers and it was so worth it. The thing is a tank, all the buttons and sticks feel really nice, and the paddles kick rear end for some games where you want to hit face buttons while you're aiming. It was expensive, but considering I got 8 years out of my wired 360 controller, I'm good with paying 180 bucks for a piece of hardware that should last a decade.
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You'd hope it would last a decade but the first gen Elite controllers were notoriously unreliable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gzj0f9SrBs Hopefully the second gen holds up better...
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Jul 5, 2020 14:00
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Buncha fake, gamer traitors in this thread I guess
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Lockback posted:Buncha fake, gamer traitors in this thread I guess This post belongs in a museum
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I’ve got a gen 1 and it’s held up well. Don’t use it a ton though
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KB/M for FPS, RTS, and any sort of city building game. Controllers for third person action games, platformers, and fighting.
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As a poor person I'm much more interested in the 3060 than the 3080Ti Super whatever. Any midrange leaks or speculation?
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FuturePastNow posted:As a poor person I'm much more interested in the 3060 than the 3080Ti Super whatever. Any midrange leaks or speculation? Nothing specific. It'll probably be powerful and a good price:performance ratio, like the xx60 parts always are. It'll probably not be available at the same time the 3080/high end cards are released--NVidia has historically kept the xx60's back a few months, so there's a solid chance you won't be able to pick one up until the end of the year (or possibly early 2021), especially if you want a AIB one if NVidia decides to launch their own FE version first again. There are rumors that the xx60 (and maybe xx70?) parts might be built on a different process node, which would mean they'd run comparatively hotter, but in a desktop that's not really an issue you should worry about. Pricing, release dates, etc., all very much TBD.
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:If 3060 can do 1080ti level performance at $350~ it'll sell like hot cakes A 1080Ti is only ~30% faster than a 2060S right now, so a 3060 being pretty close to a 1080Ti is a very good possibility. $350 might be a bit aggressive, though, since the 2060S is a $400 card and there's no real good reason for NVidia to be cutting prices right now. I'd expect $400-$450 for the 3060, at least at the start.
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:If 3060 can do 1080ti level performance at $350~ it'll sell like hot cakes
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tehinternet posted:Controllers are are super preferable for me with fighting games and third person adventure games like Castlevania, Darksiders, etc. Sidescrollers. I can play them on keyboard, god knows I perfected the entire MMZ/ZX collection that way (emulated, years before the actual PC release). and if I were to build an arcade stick these days, it would most certainly be a Mixbox, despite having my controller also modded to split up directional inputs (God, I was hoping Samsho would be better/not on Epic), but sidescrollers are something I always play with a controller.
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Can anyone with experience using EVGA's step-up program sanity check this plan of mine? I need a new GPU, but with Ampere being soon™ I don't want to end up holding the bag at the end if my understanding of the program is wrong. Currently looking to purchase a 2070 Super KO as an interim card. If 30xx cards are available by September 30th: Step-up to 30xx If 30xx cards are not available by September 30th: Step-up to 2080 Super I'm pretty sure the first path works fine. What I'm not certain of is the second path. Is it "too late" to step up to a 2080 if you purchase a 2070 now? EVGA's site appears down (at least the link to their step-up details), so I can't do a close reading of the language to try and find out myself.
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I would not plan on step-up. It's really slow and just not great. You can't step-up early because they've got raw sales demand to satisfy, and then later, the only people it works well for are people with a backup GPU to sit on for the month or whatever it takes for shipping. If you want a 30 series card, buy the cheapest used GPU that you can get by with for the next ~6 months, buy the new GPU you want, and then sell it.
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I fall into the category of "has a backup GPU" so time isn't an issue: I have not-great-not-terrible cards I can use to putz around with during the waiting period. What I'm worried about is getting rejected for a 2080 if the 30xx plan falls through.
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Warmachine posted:I fall into the category of "has a backup GPU" so time isn't an issue: I have not-great-not-terrible cards I can use to putz around with during the waiting period. What I'm worried about is getting rejected for a 2080 if the 30xx plan falls through. If that is your concern why not just but a 2080S right now?
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FuturePastNow posted:As a poor person I'm much more interested in the 3060 than the 3080Ti Super whatever. Any midrange leaks or speculation? Aren't the rumors that Nvidia is only launching 3080 and above cards this year? You might have to wait a while for the entry level cards.
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looking forward to the GT 3030!
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With the last update, people who Stepped Up were waiting 3-5 months for the base Black 2080Ti SKU after registering. And the best interim card is a 2060 Super, since it's more or less an 2070.
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gradenko_2000 posted:looking forward to the GT 3030! Joking aside, slot powered cards have yet to reach the sort of budget performance (RX580/1060) people actually want. The 1650 is still 25-30% behind.
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gradenko_2000 posted:looking forward to the GT 3030! 1730, 1750 A low-profile card that significantly outperforms the best integrated graphics will always have some market, I suppose, but Nvidia didn't make a 1630 so it's probably a very low priority to them. FuturePastNow fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Jul 6, 2020 |
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Speak of the devil, Tech Jesus has rumors of a GTX 1650 Ultra. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtGcDzBPB_k&t=655s
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1650 ultra, with less CUDA cores than the 1650 super 
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CaptainSarcastic posted:It really varies from game to game. Some are fine with mouse and keyboard, but I've played some where it was so clearly designed for a controller that it was seriously unpleasant to play on mouse and keyboard. A lot of fighting/melee mechanics that rely on combos and such come to mind as often just not working well without a controller. I think it was mostly a case of a bad port, but I remember LA Noire being so obnoxious that I stopped playing it in large part because it seemed to really assume you were using a controller. edit: Welp I was totally wrong about that. Ugly In The Morning posted:Get a wired xbone controller. I'd rather play a game with a dog turd than my steam controller. I got one for five bucks when they were firesaling them because they failed so hard, and that still feels like a ripoff. Zedsdeadbaby posted:I am the same, I use controllers on PC which is hooked up to the big screen. I have found PS4 controller to be the best one so far, just ahead of the wireless Xbone pad. The analog movement curve, battery charging/life, ability to play it wired via USB, and force feedback pulls it just ahead. Steam supports it natively which is a huge boon. I think if you're using it in Bluetooth mode the force feedback gets gimped, but that's pretty much a "well don't do that" thing when using a PC. Get the dongle and leave Bluetooth mode for connecting it to a mobile phone or something like that. --- At least for single player shooters, IMO the true best setup is gamepad+mouse if the primary movement controls are simple enough to allow one-handed gamepad operation. Gamepad for most normal operation, mouse for aiming. Best of both worlds since you get nice smooth analog movement but you still keep the precision of mouse aim. Unfortunately some games (particularly AssCreed and a few other Ubisoft titles) either force you to manually switch input devices or reject all kb/m input when using gamepad and vice versa, preventing that kind of setup from working. wolrah fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Jul 8, 2020 |
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1650 Pooper
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For nearly the past decade I've been using controllers on basically everything that isn't an FPS
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wolrah posted:That's a weird one to pick on as bad, considering it's basically just a lightly tweaked version of GTA 4/5 which play great on KB/M. That said I beat the game back on 360 so I've never played it on PC. la noire uses a custom engine not RAGE. and is limited to 30fps because that's what the facial animation/textures were captured as (you're basically projecting low res live action video onto a 3d model for all the character faces). 30fps is going to feel better with a controller since the cut in responsiveness is less jarring with a stick
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Yeah, and much of the game systems and other groundwork for LA Noire was already laid by the time Rockstar bought the property to publish. Starting it over as a tweaked GTA would have meant wasting 100% of the money spent on buying what was already there
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https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-rtx-3070-ampere-gaming-gpu-specs-rumor/
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Nvidia is going to have a release lineup of: 3070, 3070ti, 3080, 3080ti and 3090. Got it. Edit: Wait. 3070, 3070ti, 3070ti Gddr6x, 3080, 3080ti, 3090. Lockback fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Jul 7, 2020 |
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Cryptomining taught Nvidia people would pay stupid money for a GPU, the 2XXX series taught them not everyone would?
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Some Goon posted:Cryptomining taught Nvidia people would pay stupid money for a GPU, the 2XXX series taught them not everyone would? were sales considered poor or something?
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I think they underperformed expectations at the top end, though I'm not 100% on that. Like any product segmentation this is just an attempt to get everyone to pay as much as their possibly willing to. Certainly some people will pay 1000+ for the X80ti, but fewer than would pay $700. If you can hit every price bracket you can get both.
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