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crepeface posted:edit: calling a child a beauty queen is weird as gently caress. why are they child beauty pageants held anyway, are elites influencing our entire culture to normalize sexualizing children? is even our idealized image of a beautiful supermodel as a thin, child-like waif a result of elites funding their preferences? have they inceptioned everyone in this thread since birth with media?? "That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age." The narratives in modern porn (incest and other forms of coerced sex) (barely legal/teen) (exploitation) as well as the faces and proportions of the models are only the most obvious examples, to say nothing of the growing popularity of "DDLG" kink, it's really fairly ubiquitous.
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mdemone posted:brother did it, parents covered it up, police hosed it up That's one of them. The other problem is that she was pretty famous at the time and had several stalkers. Her mom was a former beauty queen and was really pushing it and JB was the most famous child beauty queen at the time. The situation was very creepy and hosed up and attracted attention even before the killing. The entire pageant world already attracted a lot of attention. It was, and remains, a red state thing and is really popular among the rural volk. The same people who are utterly obsessed with controlling female sexuality along with purity, absitenence only education, and other fuckery. So there's this hosed up culture of little blonde girls that's a multi billion dollar industry and then this culture of men who go to the events. The entire thing was a hosed up mess. People knew there were stalkers, they knew people were jerking it to these things, but it was good wholesome red state purity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1HQtUqpR-g
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Pixelated posted:Jizzlane is gonna catch a case of Epstein-Barr THIS SUMMER BARRED FROM TESTIFYING 2
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MysteriousStranger posted:That's one of them. The other problem is that she was pretty famous at the time and had several stalkers. Her mom was a former beauty queen and was really pushing it and JB was the most famous child beauty queen at the time. The situation was very creepy and hosed up and attracted attention even before the killing. The entire pageant world already attracted a lot of attention. It was, and remains, a red state thing and is really popular among the rural volk. The same people who are utterly obsessed with controlling female sexuality along with purity, absitenence only education, and other fuckery. So there's this hosed up culture of little blonde girls that's a multi billion dollar industry and then this culture of men who go to the events. that is all true, but none of those theories make sense because the parents were instrumental in the cover-up from day one.
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Doc Walrus posted:THIS SUMMER crepeface posted:no one is immune to the epstein–barr virus
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Look, I am by no way "handing it to them", but a lot of REALLY anti-semitic and homophobic media conspiracy theories start being validated by that kind of logic, so I would tread lightly. E: this quote crepeface posted:wtf she was literally in the last photo of a dead child beauty queen? Wasabi the J has issued a correction as of 03:20 on Jul 8, 2020 |
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gh0stpinballa posted:the dutroux case links to drug trafficking, gladio and the belgian secret service too.
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Wasabi the J posted:Look, I am by no way "handing it to them", but a lot of REALLY anti-semitic and homophobic media conspiracy theories start being validated by that kind of logic, so I would tread lightly. the constant threat of Epstein Brain is falling into Qanon territory, whether it be literally Q or other fash-adjacent conspiracies. it’s hard with how much this poo poo just rewires your brain, but there’s the anti-semites lurking around every corner waiting for you to fall into the “Epstein you say” realm.
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Wasabi the J posted:Look, I am by no way "handing it to them", but a lot of REALLY anti-semitic and homophobic media conspiracy theories start being validated by that kind of logic, so I would tread lightly. the new standard of womanly beauty being thicc women with big asses is the result of technology distributing means of producing visual media into the hands of the people and i refuse to believe anything to the contrary
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oxsnard posted:that is all true, but none of those theories make sense because the parents were instrumental in the cover-up from day one. yeah, the going thing is her brother was a psycho nut and killed her over pineapple. there was also the theory that she was being abused by someone the family knew and got killed in an argument about it. the one certain thing was that her parents were hiding poo poo.
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I think the billionaires just took over in the 60's and have been desparate for us to make them some more money and victims to exploit. Like I'm certain every conspiracy theory that ever gained traction has been an op, and the dial was cranked up to 11 with the help of the algorithm. I try not to think about how much the internet fuckin' knows about me and what kind of control it had and has on my brain
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uber_stoat posted:google "Marc Dutroux" Dutroux is the kind of case where even if you're totally Epstein brained it'll still depress the poo poo out of you; at least it did me. Not even in a crack ping way, just that reading about it surrounded me with a lasting sense of gloom. From a 2002 Guardian article on the subject (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/may/05/dutroux.featuresreview): uber_stoat posted:Bruno Tagliaferro was someone who knew, or claimed to know, about the abduction of Julie and Melissa and the car which was used. The Charleroi scrap metal merchant told his wife in 1995 that Dutroux was trying to get him killed. It was something to do with the car in which girls had been taken. What the gently caress are you supposed to do with information like that? Nothing. You just sit there and feel defeated.
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:This really isn't related I guess, but when I read this the first thing I thought of was the Epstein/Maxwell poo poo... absolutely terrifying poo poo
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nut posted:is there a book or anything? My mind is shattered after the wikipedia article alone and that had only slight links to one or two of those things no book to recommend but contemporary news coverage particularly from the UK is fascinating reading. i guess because it was happening so far away they could explore the case without being terrified of the "conspiracy theorist" label. here is an interesting thing tho: when the dutroux case broke it reminded people of another scandal that happened in belgium in the late 70s. a dr pinon and his wife were going thru a protracted divorce and the judge ordered them to attempt reconciliation. presumably to try for a clean slate the wife admits to cheating on him with dozens of different people. she then admits a lot of the fuckery happened at these orgies which belgian elites would attend. then she got all upset and backed off. eventually dr pinon teases it out of her that a number of underage children, usually between 13 - 16, are brought to these orgies, which are nicknamed "pink ballets". elites gently caress the kids while people watch, there's bdsm, torture, forced drug use...and video cameras. pinon recorded her saying all this during another meeting. she says several youth court judges are involved in funneling kids to foster homes run by pimps and child traffickers who pander these kids to the pink ballets. she names a bunch of people as VIP guests including the prince of belgium at the time. she also says that she's heard some of the kids are killed when they threaten to go to the press or try to run away. dr pinon thinks this is his mrs having a nervous breakdown or trying to gently caress with him somehow but then his apartment is broken into several times, and his study is raided, presumably someone looking for his audio tapes. and the police lose forensic evidence each time they investigate, and he realises he's being tailed everywhere he goes, then he gets calls threatening his kids etc etc. he hires this PI and they put together a dossier which they give to this left wing tabloid, they don't trust the cops at all. the day before it goes to press their offices and printing press is firebombed by a neonazi gang called the youth front. the youth front is led by a guy called paul latinus, who was banging mrs pinon. he goes on to found the westland new post, another neonazi gang with ties to the gendarmes, the CIA, corsican mafia and belgian intelligence. they are major suspects in the brabant massacres, and several of the people killed in those robberies are connected to the pink ballets and said to have blackmail dirt on the VIPs. regina loef corroborated a lot of what mrs pinon said in the mid 90s, and she also recalls meeting a club promoter called jean michel nihoul at one of these pink ballets and his friend, who supplied drugs to the parties. the guy was marc dutroux.
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MysteriousStranger posted:yeah, the going thing is her brother was a psycho nut and killed her over pineapple. there was also the theory that she was being abused by someone the family knew and got killed in an argument about it. the one certain thing was that her parents were hiding poo poo. there was absolutely no concrete evidence she had been abused on a regular basis either. once i realized a few years back that the brother doing it was the only theory that made sense, I had a lot more empathy for the parents. Had they just told the police he did it, the story wouldn't have made it beyond a local news blurb. It appears they panicked, made an incredibly immoral and stupid decision and the story immediately became international news. At that point, they couldn't tell the truth for reasons I at the very least empathize with. Their son's life would be ruined, there would never be any true justice, may as well stick to the story and ride it out until the end
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TrixRabbi posted:the constant threat of Epstein Brain is falling into Qanon territory, whether it be literally Q or other fash-adjacent conspiracies. it’s hard with how much this poo poo just rewires your brain, but there’s the anti-semites lurking around every corner waiting for you to fall into the “Epstein you say” realm. im jewish and tyhus immune checkmate libs
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Smythe posted:im jewish and tyhus immune checkmate libs same but I worry about others.
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Smythe posted:im jewish and tyhus immune checkmate libs You take that back! I'm not a lib I haven't even seen Hamilton!
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gh0stpinballa posted:no book to recommend but contemporary news coverage particularly from the UK is fascinating reading. i guess because it was happening so far away they could explore the case without being terrified of the "conspiracy theorist" label. 
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Shear Modulus posted:why is it so hard for these people to realize the only correct answer here is "yes, we were at the same party, but i had no idea who this person was" Ellen Pao hates Kleiner Perkins. She sued them for gender discrimination and it culminated in a long, insanely expensive trial that she lost. making GBS threads on Kleiner here wasn’t inadvertent.
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Wasabi the J posted:I think the billionaires just took over in the 60's and have been desparate for us to make them some more money and victims to exploit. this stuff was going on before the 60s the US was literally founded by men who openly enslaved and raped people. we still have them on our money and make hiphop musicals about them.
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TrixRabbi posted:the constant threat of Epstein Brain is falling into Qanon territory, whether it be literally Q or other fash-adjacent conspiracies. it’s hard with how much this poo poo just rewires your brain, but there’s the anti-semites lurking around every corner waiting for you to fall into the “Epstein you say” realm. that's if you view it as a problem restricted to only the rich. child abuse and sexual abuse are very common among all classes. most families (including aunts/uncles/cousins) have "shameful secrets", abusers they protect out of fear of social stigma.
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Atrocious Joe posted:this stuff was going on before the 60s God what if that's the top level secret about the freemasons and skull and bones etc.
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to be serious about it, the usual conspiracy theories are the gateway to epstein brain, not the other way around. once you hold the shining answer in your mind that there needs to be no grand conspiracy other than coinciding self-interest of the wealthy and powerful to indulge any whim without consequence, i don't see how you go backwards to jews and qanon. class is the final stage of conspiracy theories.
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crepeface posted:to be serious about it, the usual conspiracy theories are the gateway to epstein brain, not the other way around. once you hold the shining answer in your mind that there needs to be no grand conspiracy other than coinciding self-interest of the wealthy and powerful to indulge any whim without consequence, i don't see how you go backwards to jews and qanon. class is the final stage of conspiracy theories. I’ve never thought about it like this before and it makes me feel like I’m not going so crazy. I have a constant anxiety that there will be a point that I’m completely alienated from everyone that isn’t also immersed in this stuff.
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I'm sorry, what? edit: oh I get it now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1tyybVuSBU
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fyi here in the uk we had saville but also the rotherham scandal, which almost everyone left and right viewed thru the lens of race. in fact the likelihood is that the police and the family pandering the children were all workibg together. detectives supplied drugs to the syndicate, social services would direct their victims and at risk families with children known to be vulnerable to stay in safe house b and bs which were owned by the pedo family, etc. the race issue was an op to cover up the breathtaking corruption and everyone fell for it.
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inferis posted:I’ve never thought about it like this before and it makes me feel like I’m not going so crazy. I have a constant anxiety that there will be a point that I’m completely alienated from everyone that isn’t also immersed in this stuff. I get this too but honestly if you have a self awareness about it and know when to and when not to talk about it it’s really not bad. it feels like most people, even normal people seem to be on board that the wealthy and powerful are consuming innocent children to give themselves satanic powers.
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Atrocious Joe posted:this stuff was going on before the 60s It's not even the US, as much as I'm sure goons would love to blame capitalism or colonialism or whatever for this. There are brothels in Bangladesh that kids are born or sold into where they work as young as 10, and the authorities are aware of it as are the civilian populace, and the clients aren't the extras from Eyes Wide Shut, just ordinary Bangladeshi men. They feed the girls cow hormones so they "develop" quicker. Or go look up the Kumari/Living Goddess tradition in Nepal, which is probably thousands of years old. Some hosed Up Nepalese Monk posted:Eligible girls are from the Newar Shakya caste of silver and goldsmiths. She must be in excellent health, never have shed blood or been afflicted by any diseases, be without blemish and must not have yet lost any teeth. Girls who pass these basic eligibility requirements are examined for the battis lakshanas, or thirty-two perfections of a goddess. Some of these are poetically listed as such: There's a point at which "the Illuminati/Elite did it all!" seems like a weird mixture of denialism and twisted hero worship wrapped up into one, unless it's being used as a synonym/metaphor for the patriarchy, which is itself basically a euphemism. It's like watching incels invent Chad. Same weird psychological defense and distancing, same repressed air of fascination and envy. "Class" isn't even the final conspiracy theory on all of this, but anytime anyone comes close to naming the actual problem, without fail some goon has a meltdown or throws a fit. (Note because I know people will accuse me of this bullshit: problem not Jews.)
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I mean this thread is specifically about millionaires and billionaires who through virtue of being rich can both strongly influence politics/commerce and media, as well as rape children (and suicide prisoners) with impunity. I don't think anyone is saying pedophilia is a uniquely elite-Western depravity?
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