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That new manual is available in 5 and 6 speed flavors as well and in some of the leaked documents is described as "Hybrid compatible". So there's the possibility for some interesting stuff, even if it's unlikely.
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Neo_Crimson posted:Goddamn the grille still looks like a photoshop in some angles, especially since the rest of the car is fine. Nothing wrong with it except that one thing. It would be excellent if they're trolling everyone
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Wheeee posted:Define good, because their trucks are cheap and robust good trucks, even if they can't compete on features and interior and ride quality and poo poo. That's a fair point about their trucks. I hadn't thought much about them (especially the Frontier since it's so old) but they're shockingly inexpensive. Just looking at the respective Canadian sites the top-trim (2019) Frontier is listed at $39500 and the Taco starts at $37500. The top trim Taco is just under $51k Canadian. That's a lot of money saved.
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Minto Took posted:I was considering a 370Z, but I got a dog. i'm fascinated, why were you considering the 370Z?
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Jul 8, 2020 13:26
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The rear end is Lexus IS reminiscent.
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Jul 8, 2020 13:30
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2021 Mazda 3 2.5L turbo awd is live on the Mazda USA site. 250 hp and 320 with 93 octane. Says available late 2020.
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fknlo posted:More shots of the M3 If you took the center bar out of the grille, it would be a normal looking Audi. You wouldn't even have to change anything else.
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lmao automatic only
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I thought about complaining about auto only, but I wasn't going to buy one so oh well. To be clear, if it had been available last year and if it would have been a manual, I would have been lining up with cash in hand. Since I purchased the Golf R though, I'm set for my high performance hatches for awhile. My 4k mile a year life and the 6 year 72,000 mile warranty means I really don't have to worry about anything for quite awhile. The biggest thing I'm looking forward to right now is the refreshed BRZ. If they manage to give it more power without ruining it, it's going to be a hard thing to say no to.
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Yuns posted:2021 Mazda 3 2.5L turbo awd is live on the Mazda USA site. 250 hp and 320 with 93 octane. Says available late 2020. Going to guess we aren't getting this in the UK. I still don't understand why Mazda are resistant to offering their larger engines in Europe, it's all well and good offering a well appointed interior and driving dynamics if you don't at least allow the option of a bigger engine for people cross shopping warm/hot hatches it kind of sucks.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:i'm fascinated, why were you considering the 370Z? The best 370Z to buy is a used one.
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Yuns posted:2021 Mazda 3 2.5L turbo awd is live on the Mazda USA site. 250 hp and 320 with 93 octane. Says available late 2020. This is a cool idea. Even though no one buys sedans anymore, I would love a class of vehicles that have strong engines, but don't cost as much as entry level luxury like the 3 series or A4. e.g. MSRP around 25k instead of 35k, but with comparable performance. I'm not positive where the cost cutting would come from, but I feel it's doable and could be profitable. Is the Camry V6 going away? Something like that I guess, though the Mazda3 sounds even better.
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^^^^ the honda accord 2.0T sport existsRussian Bear posted:The best 370Z to buy is a used one. the best thing to do is subtract 130
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$35k in Canada for the Mazda 3 hatch turbo, and I can't decide if that's a ludicrous price for a c-segment car with a mid-tier trim that's $11k cheaper or a great price for a powerful and beautifully styled car with a better interior design than the BMW 3.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:i'm fascinated, why were you considering the 370Z? Nostalgia for the 300ZX.
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The Mazda3T adding a heated steering wheel reminds me: my mom has a CX-5 that has ventilated seats and I'm continually surprised that the Mazda3 had such an upgrade on the interior with the idea of going upscale, but neglected to include that.
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Ventilated seats probably cost a lot more on the production end than heated seats and so are left to higher margin vehicles I would assume
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Heated seats are significantly simpler than cooled/ventilated seats and a lot easier to fit to an existing seat. One is just some electrical wire and resistors, while the other is a seat designed with airflow and fans and some have their own cooling unit or are looped into the AC as well.
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I think it's going to be a great little car. I really like Mazda's driving dynamics and having 250/320 in a not too heavy package is going to make it pretty lively. If my Tesla purchase falls through because of QC issues, I'll be looking really hard at it so long as they can deliver by the fall.
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Inner Light posted:This is a cool idea. Even though no one buys sedans anymore, I would love a class of vehicles that have strong engines, but don't cost as much as entry level luxury like the 3 series or A4. e.g. MSRP around 25k instead of 35k, but with comparable performance. I'm not positive where the cost cutting would come from, but I feel it's doable and could be profitable.  The Camry V6 effectively only exists on paper. In a 50-mile radius around central Florida, less than 1% of new Camrys on dealer lots have a V6. There are 6 times as many Avalons, and 16 times as many Lexus ES350s. I'm gonna laugh all day if the turbo 3 still keeps the torsion-beam rear. At least do what Ford and VW do for the Focus and Golf in the EU, which is swap out the torsion beam for an IRS in higher trims. While the buzz is around the turbo 3, Mazda has brought back a true base model with the 2.0 which will be far more important to Mazda's bottom line.
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Wheeee posted:Ventilated seats probably cost a lot more on the production end than heated seats and so are left to higher margin vehicles I would assume Oh sure, I'm not saying they should be a base option. They're not even available on the top trim is what surprised me.
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Also true in the sense that the the V6 is crippled by the transmission programming to prevent you from actually using most of that power.
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If Toyota puts a real LSD in the TuRD Camry I'd be seriously tempted
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Applebees Appetizer posted:If Toyota puts a real LSD in the TuRD Camry I'd be seriously tempted They'd need a factory warranty'd transmission tune as well but yeah that would be pretty compelling.
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BraveUlysses posted:lmao automatic only Mazdas six speed auto is fine.
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Toyota's site won't let me build a Camry TuRD on their configurator, says it is not available in my region in the US.
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Torsion beams are fine for the Mazda 3. Although in my ideal world every car would have Double wishbone suspension.
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The Oldest Man posted:They'd need a factory warranty'd transmission tune as well but yeah that would be pretty compelling. Depending on how they sell it's possible I guess, especially if all the TuRD reviewers and owners say it needs one. Savagegeese reviewed it and said that's all it needs to be a really good car.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Depending on how they sell it's possible I guess, especially if all the TuRD reviewers and owners say it needs one. Savagegeese reviewed it and said that's all it needs to be a really good car. Does it matter when you can get an accord 2.0T in 10spd or manual?
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The Mazda3 rear torsion beam is well sorted. I think that's better than them spending money on a more expensive layout and not having the $$$ to tune it properly and it being more expensive to replace.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Depending on how they sell it's possible I guess, especially if all the TuRD reviewers and owners say it needs one. Savagegeese reviewed it and said that's all it needs to be a really good car. FWIW even Honda won't give 2.0T 6MT Accord buyers an LSD
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Wheeee posted:$35k in Canada for the Mazda 3 hatch turbo, and I can't decide if that's a ludicrous price for a c-segment car with a mid-tier trim that's $11k cheaper or a great price for a powerful and beautifully styled car with a better interior design than the BMW 3. Upper spec models are always crazy when you look at it that way - the jump from a basic CX-9 to a Signature is just as much and you don't even get a more powerful engine.
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dissss posted:Upper spec models are always crazy when you look at it that way - the jump from a basic CX-9 to a Signature is just as much and you don't even get a more powerful engine. yea it just sets off this dissonance in my brain where, for example in this context, the idea of a $35k Mazda 3 is absurd to me, and yet actually comparing its design and interior and whatnot to competitors it's like $15k cheaper than anything that's actually nicer
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I have the sky active x Mazda and I kinda wanna see how the turbo feels
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Kraftwerk posted:Does it matter when you can get an accord 2.0T in 10spd or manual? Same reviewer (SG) said it's too soft  Idk, if I were going to buy a TuRD Camry I'd probably drive an Accord as well and pick between the two.
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Lord Stimperor posted:I have the sky active x Mazda and I kinda wanna see how the turbo feels We have it in the CX9 and it's gotta be amazing in a 3. Amazingly response at low RPM and plenty of power even in a big SUV going up the mountains.
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Minto Took posted:Nostalgia for the 300ZX. just buy a 300zx
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Jymmybob posted:We have it in the CX9 and it's gotta be amazing in a 3. Amazingly response at low RPM and plenty of power even in a big SUV going up the mountains. Yea it doesn't appear from their official materials that they've done anything in terms of suspension or brake upgrades to the turbo 3, but if it's tuned to actually deliver all that power when you stomp on it without pulling timing or anything it's going to fuckin hustle
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I really would like to know what kind of compromises Mazda made to get the Mazda3 Turbo. I'm also looking forward to the excuses caranddriver will make about how the GTI/Golf R is still somehow better than it despite costing more and having less to offer in features and reliability. Until Mazda came along nobody else wanted to give you Turbo AWD with all the creature comforts for less than 40k. Had to shell out for a Golf R or Focus RS. If this car doesn't have some kind of dealbreaking bugs its basically occupying the sweet spot for all my requirements. I'm even thinking long and hard about trading my GS350 AWD for it. Kraftwerk fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Jul 8, 2020 |
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Mercedes is previewing the new UI and infotainment system in the upcoming next gen S Class. https://www.autoblog.com/2020/07/08/2021-mercedes-benz-s-class-new-technology-3d-displays-mbux/ The article has a Mercedes promo video of it that I can't seem to link to. edit - See if this link works, it might take a minute or so to load: https://motorsport.tv/embed/CGhk68E9 quote:New 2021 Mercedes-Benz S-Class gets 3D instrument cluster, next-gen MBUX software Mr. Apollo fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Jul 9, 2020 |
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