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Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Bust Rodd posted:

Why Mariner instead of Crystaline Sliver? What am I missing?

No, the lack of maybe the best sliver ever printed doesn't make any sense.

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Time
Aug 1, 2011

It Was All A Dream

Sickening posted:

No, the lack of maybe the best sliver ever printed doesn't make any sense.

Bust Rodd posted:

Why Mariner instead of Crystaline Sliver? What am I missing?

its literally in the freaking deck learn to read geez!!!!!!

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
As far as favorite basics, ignoring the fact that I unironically like the pokemon energy basics.
https://scryfall.com/card/m19/266/island
https://scryfall.com/card/m21/310/island
https://scryfall.com/card/war/261/mountain
https://scryfall.com/card/ana/54/mountain
https://scryfall.com/card/ana/60/forest
https://scryfall.com/card/ust/216/forest
https://scryfall.com/card/avr/237/swamp
https://scryfall.com/card/avr/237/swamp
https://scryfall.com/card/gk1/100/plains
https://scryfall.com/card/m19/261/plains

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?
I like dust god. We don't see eye to eye on edh but he plays manaless dredge and that makes him a-okay in my magic books.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
I have Bust Rodd, Sickening and Fadam on ignore now and it's all just so much more peaceful

sit on my Facebook
Jun 20, 2007

ASS GAS OR GRASS
No One Rides for FREE
In the Trumplord Holy Land
I will reluctantly accept the mantle of Official EDH Representative

It is good and I love it

uggy
Aug 6, 2006

Posting is SERIOUS BUSINESS
and I am completely joyless

Don't make me judge you
I have been enjoying brawl on arena and would enjoy edh using the arena card pool

It is fun to play with cards you normally might not because magic is a cool game

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

TheKingofSprings posted:

I have Bust Rodd, Sickening and Fadam on ignore now and it's all just so much more peaceful

:laffo:

You are pressing the "show post" button regardless because you have zero self control. You play mtg after all.

shades of blue
Sep 27, 2012
edh will be a bad format until they loving UNBAN RECURRING NIGHTMARE YOU poo poo BAGS

thank you that is all

Time
Aug 1, 2011

It Was All A Dream
if i ask nicely will people stop trying to do posting battle 24/7

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

Time posted:

if i ask nicely will people stop trying to do posting battle 24/7

We are wizards and wizards duel, it’s in our dna

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=26358&d=401152&f=MO

I'd love it if people would discuss how and whether Goblins is a good deck now in Modern

Time
Aug 1, 2011

It Was All A Dream
It seems decent but not unruly. lots of things do a good job of keeping it from being too good. the fairest combo deck in modern history

sit on my Facebook
Jun 20, 2007

ASS GAS OR GRASS
No One Rides for FREE
In the Trumplord Holy Land
"The fairest combo deck" is spot on. You can certainly spike a tournament with it, I'd bet

Conspicuous Snoop is also a really good commander combo deck. Wort even lets you buy back the pieces!

Voyager I
Jun 29, 2012

This is how your posting feels.
🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥

TheKingofSprings posted:

https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=26358&d=401152&f=MO

I'd love it if people would discuss how and whether Goblins is a good deck now in Modern

drat, maindeck discard to protect the combo is leaning into it pretty hard.

The Klowner
Apr 20, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Kurieg posted:

As far as favorite basics, ignoring the fact that I unironically like the pokemon energy basics.
https://scryfall.com/card/m19/266/island

Feel like I'm tripping balls looking at this one

80s James Hetfield
Jan 20, 2004

METAL UP YOUR ASS

Sickening posted:

:laffo:

You are pressing the "show post" button regardless because you have zero self control. You play mtg after all.

He is also the one who reports everything, lol

The Klowner
Apr 20, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I wish they would bring 4-player brawl to arena, 1v1 brawl is okay sometimes and 1v1 historic brawl can be pretty wacky fun but multiplayer would be such a sweet addition. They would definitely have to up the stop-setting game and add functionality to customize priority passing (I heard modo has a really good system for that?), otherwise it would be pretty annoying from a UX perspective

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy

80s James Hetfield posted:

He is also the one who reports everything, lol

The snitching in this thread is what i hate most about it, lol

Has anyone got much usage of the mac arena client? Is it burn-your-genitals performance or something more reasonable?

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
It's a shame that full art lands pop so much in Arena cause I'd love a good aesthetic reason to use regular lands. That being said, bring back the old Zendikar Full Arts!

Huxley
Oct 10, 2012



Grimey Drawer

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

The snitching in this thread is what i hate most about it, lol

Has anyone got much usage of the mac arena client? Is it burn-your-genitals performance or something more reasonable?

I'm still on Mojave for work reasons so that might be the root of my problems, but it takes forever to launch and runs way slowly. If you've ever had to do any remote desktop work, it's a lot like that.

kalvanoo
Apr 29, 2018

look at this lil perv
first off elder dingus highlander isnt magic but not because of any stupid commander zone rules bullshit its because it allows cards with that loving modern frame jeez get rid of that eyesore am i right fellas lets hear it for the old borders hell yeah

Balon
May 23, 2010

...my greatest work yet.
Crossposting from the EDH Thread:

Balon posted:

So the second episode of my podcast/show, Let's do a Brew, is out today! In this episode I'm joined by Jeremy Noell of Star City Games' Commander Versus. We talk about some of his personal decks and the strain of building a deck each week and having the same playgroup for years on end. Then we do one of the show's wacky theme deckbuilds, "Add a Color", where you take a commander and, well, add a color to its identity.

Check it out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHo_ssMFLKc

Bugsy
Jul 15, 2004

I'm thumpin'. That's
why they call me
'Thumper'.


Slippery Tilde

The Klowner posted:

Feel like I'm tripping balls looking at this one

All the esper lands are good. The swamp and island are the best though.

https://scryfall.com/card/ala/238/swamp
https://scryfall.com/card/ala/233/plains

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Good call dude Chippy swamp 238 is an all timer. If I didn't think having just your basics foiled would give me losses for marked cards I'd use them exclusively.

Bugsy
Jul 15, 2004

I'm thumpin'. That's
why they call me
'Thumper'.


Slippery Tilde

kalvanoo posted:

first off elder dingus highlander isnt magic but not because of any stupid commander zone rules bullshit its because it allows cards with that loving modern frame jeez get rid of that eyesore am i right fellas lets hear it for the old borders hell yeah

:yaycat:

Infinite Karma
Oct 23, 2004
Good as dead





Fuzzy Mammal posted:

Good call dude Chippy swamp 238 is an all timer. If I didn't think having just your basics foiled would give me losses for marked cards I'd use them exclusively.
Do the tournament rules even say you can get losses for that? I thought the judges were supposed to give you proxies if they determined your foils were too pringly.

AngryBooch
Sep 26, 2009

The Klowner posted:

I wish they would bring 4-player brawl to arena, 1v1 brawl is okay sometimes and 1v1 historic brawl can be pretty wacky fun but multiplayer would be such a sweet addition. They would definitely have to up the stop-setting game and add functionality to customize priority passing (I heard modo has a really good system for that?), otherwise it would be pretty annoying from a UX perspective

It would be great because it'd be really cool for three people playing like Radha, Teysa, and Huatli to immediately beat the poo poo out of the one player every game playing Niv, Bolas, or Kinan. Then the real game could begin.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy

Infinite Karma posted:

Do the tournament rules even say you can get losses for that? I thought the judges were supposed to give you proxies if they determined your foils were too pringly.

I haven't pushed it, but answering, "why are just your swamps foiled?" with, "cuz they look great, but i didn't bother foiling anything else." is extremely suspect. They'd fall under marked cards and if they think you're not being forthright cheating, yea. Magic judges are automata who refer to ruling workflow diagrams and can't think for themselves and I wouldn't put anything below them. Good thing there aren't gonna be any soon enough!

Tom Clancy is Dead
Jul 13, 2011

Voyager I posted:

drat, maindeck discard to protect the combo is leaning into it pretty hard.

This was pretty common before Snoop too, since it's how Goblins can stand any chance at all vs. linear decks.

Lone Goat
Apr 16, 2003

When life gives you lemons, suplex those lemons.




Infinite Karma posted:

Do the tournament rules even say you can get losses for that? I thought the judges were supposed to give you proxies if they determined your foils were too pringly.

no, if you show up at a constructed event with bent cards, they won't issue you poo poo, except a penalty for marked cards. Kess, Dissident Mage was effectively soft-banned from Legacy for a while because it was only available as a foil card, to the point they had to change the rules to allow for it.

here's the tournament rules for proxies:

quote:

3.4 Proxy Cards
A proxy card is used during competition to represent an otherwise legal Magic card or checklist card that can no
longer be included in a deck without the deck being marked. For a proxy to be issued, the card it is replacing must
meet at least one of the following criteria:
• The card has been accidentally damaged or excessively worn in the current tournament, including
damaged or misprinted Limited product. Proxies are not allowed as substitutes for cards that their owner
has damaged intentionally or through negligence.
• The card is a foil card for which no non-foil printing exists.
Players may not create their own proxies; they may only be created by the Head Judge who has sole discretion as
to whether the creation of a proxy is appropriate. When a judge creates a proxy, it is included in the player’s deck
and must be denoted as a proxy in a clear and conspicuous manner. The original card is kept nearby during the
match and replaces the proxy while in a public zone as long as it is recognizable. A proxy is valid only for the
duration of the tournament in which it was originally issued.

Typhus733
Aug 30, 2008
My biggest hope is that Astrolabe gets banned so everyone can go back to dope basics instead of all snow basics all the time.


Like my MPS llorwyn swamps and my Portal second age islands are some of my favorite individual bits of my "collection." Pimping out basics with *your* favorite ones is definitely one of the more interesting, varied and expressive parts of the greater game to me

Typhus733 fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Jul 10, 2020

little munchkin
Aug 15, 2010

Lone Goat posted:

no, if you show up at a constructed event with bent cards, they won't issue you poo poo, except a penalty for marked cards. Kess, Dissident Mage was effectively soft-banned from Legacy for a while because it was only available as a foil card, to the point they had to change the rules to allow for it.

here's the tournament rules for proxies:

worth noting that at some comp rel events you can ask a judge to inspect your sleeved deck beforehand to approve any foil. the times i've tried this they just tried to cut to the foil a few times to make sure it's not possible. they won't let you use proxies though unless it's a special situation like kess or nexus of fate

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

I haven't pushed it, but answering, "why are just your swamps foiled?" with, "cuz they look great, but i didn't bother foiling anything else." is extremely suspect. They'd fall under marked cards and if they think you're not being forthright cheating, yea. Magic judges are automata who refer to ruling workflow diagrams and can't think for themselves and I wouldn't put anything below them. Good thing there aren't gonna be any soon enough!

or just not win enough for people to care

if you're 3-3 in the tournament no one gives a gently caress

Time
Aug 1, 2011

It Was All A Dream
They absolutely need to get vintage cube onto arena. 90% of the cards would be easy to make happen and they could throw in stop gaps for the others

Time
Aug 1, 2011

It Was All A Dream
my arena demands -

More cube
older cards
make it run better (it actually got a lot better for me in the last update or so

suicidesteve
Jan 4, 2006

"Life is a maze. This is one of its dead ends.


Time posted:

my arena demands -

More cube
older cards
make it run better (it actually got a lot better for me in the last update or so

Every update they've ever released has made it run worse for me. These days I mouse over the Arena icon and it burns my legs through my pants.

I'm on board for legacy cube though. Vintage cube kinda blows.

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy
If they put Pioneer on Arena I might be interested. I just don't dig rotating formats and Historic seems weird.

Doctor Teeth
Sep 12, 2008


remember when wotc ran a "promotion" back in like '11 called Crack a Pack day and the hashtag they used for it was #crackapackday?

just remembered it and lol'd

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ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?
Every tournament I play where there's a proper judge the first thing I do is hand them my deck and ask if my sleeves are alright. Especially with my token deck I bought the sleeves in 2017 before I really knew how to sleeve a deck so a bunch have a small mark in the middle near the opening on the back from when I pushed the card in.

Best comment I got was "your sleeves are beaten up and technically marked, but there's no pattern so they're fine."

First tournament a judge said to me "this is your first tournament and you're playing gw tokens, you're probably the most honest guy in the room"

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