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MizPiz posted:Black Noir is supposed to be the Batman There's also a guy named Metal Knight, I think, who is like a sad Batman and has a lot of pent up sex stuff going on
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skooma512 posted:That explains why the Seven are all clearly DC parodies. This is pretty common with superhero parodies. Watchmen was actually originally going to use the newly acquired Fawcett Comics characters iirc; Doctor Manhattan is Captain Atom, Rorschach is The Question, Nite Owl is Blue Beetle. Sometimes there's some funny takes on this. Marvel Zombies starts out with the sudden appearance of a dimensionally-displaced Sentry as patient zero- a character who's basically Marvel's canon parody of Superman who's crippled with mental problems- and he was originally going to be an obvious Superman cameo (implying of course DC Zombies) but they couldn't make it subtle enough.
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Fleetwood posted:There's also a guy named Metal Knight, I think, who is like a sad Batman and has a lot of pent up sex stuff going on so.... Batman?
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StashAugustine posted:the boys is pretty good but lets not pretend its higher art than marvel poo poo, other than the aforementioned "is pretty good" i think its very intellectually dishonest to act like movies which are about how the military industrial complex is good because of superhero branding are basically exactly the same as a serial program which is about how the military industrial complex is bad and has been made worse by superhero branding
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skooma512 posted:Boomer detected. I would not know of the Jane Fonda workout video if it weren't for my boomer mom. i cant tell whether gadot was offended because katzenberg outed himself as an obvious perv because she was repulsed by being compared to noted america hater jane fonda because she sees workout videos as being totally beneath the power of her brand or if it was just because she hates quibli
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emergency 911 probably ruined escalators for a lot of people
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Superhero workout videos would be on brand tho
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it is possible the workout video pitch didn't mention killing palestinian children so I can understand her lack of interest
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Korean Boomhauer posted:emergency 911 probably ruined escalators for a lot of people i think about emergency 911 EVERY time i walk onto an escalator to this day
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Jul 11, 2020 14:48
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are you guys talking about Rescue 911 with William Shatner or is this some other show
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Jul 11, 2020 14:59
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is this guys power that his arms come off easily
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Zvahl posted:are you guys talking about Rescue 911 with William Shatner or is this some other show yeah that is the one
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william shatner wanted to be Robert Stack so bad and was just awful at it go back to warring tek old man
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Zvahl posted:are you guys talking about Rescue 911 with William Shatner or is this some other show Was it actually called Emergency 911 in some places? Lots of people call it that for some reason. Also 
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Egg Moron posted:Here are some panels from marshal law, the first three are from marshal law takes manhattan where the punisher facsimile "the persecutor" is attempting to seek sanctuary in a mental hospital for criminally insane super heroes where parodies of the avengers rule the roost I'm generally not a fan of these "The Justice League/Avengers are evil because they don't destroy America, let me show you my fair-use versions of them being oh so crazy" stories (and not just because they've been done to death by every hack writer for the past 30 years). It's because 99% of them require a willful misreading of the source material. Superhero Comics are set in the "real world", if Batman creates a perpetual motion machine next issue then the comic essentially ends because the entire premise no longer works. It's like watching a Disney Cartoon and smugly pointing out that animals can't talk. Even the main comics universes have this problem a lot these days. The X-Men writers in particular love accusing like Spider-Man of being racist because he didn't stop last months Sentinel attack, despite the reader knowing he's wasn't in the X-Men book month because he was stopping Galactus from eating Earth in his own book.
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Planetary does have the super-science organisation finally start publicly releasing their stuff in the very last issue before the comic ends. (and after they've killed the evil Reed Richards)
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galagazombie posted:I'm generally not a fan of these "The Justice League/Avengers are evil because they don't destroy America, let me show you my fair-use versions of them being oh so crazy" stories (and not just because they've been done to death by every hack writer for the past 30 years). It's because 99% of them require a willful misreading of the source material. Superhero Comics are set in the "real world", if Batman creates a perpetual motion machine next issue then the comic essentially ends because the entire premise no longer works. It's like watching a Disney Cartoon and smugly pointing out that animals can't talk. Even the main comics universes have this problem a lot these days. The X-Men writers in particular love accusing like Spider-Man of being racist because he didn't stop last months Sentinel attack, despite the reader knowing he's wasn't in the X-Men book month because he was stopping Galactus from eating Earth in his own book. i like the boys because its clearly spending a lot of effort trying to make superheroes function in a semirealistic way and this doesnt necessarily mean evil it takes awhile for it to actually be confirmed that homelander is evil starlight is pretty well established as being an actually good person and its even hinted that translucent might not have been a total shithead in between the exposition we get about his family life and also realizing in retrospect he made a conscious decision to confront hughie alone without telling his coworkers or bosses who almost certainly would have just murdered him which isnt to say your criticism is unjustified i dont read comic books personally and it wouldnt at all surprise me to learn that the boys in comic book form is a major departure from the scripted show really it seems kind of unavoidable given that woke branding plays a pretty big part in the show but i dont think it actually even existed back when the comic was still new
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You're actually spot on there. The comic version is exactly the thing I was ranting about, while on the other hand I enjoy the show precisely because it's not like the comic at all. Live-Action Homelander in particular has practically nothing in common with Comic Homelander. Though to be fair Antony Starr deserves enough awards for what he brings to the role to sink a freighter
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galagazombie posted:I'm generally not a fan of these "The Justice League/Avengers are evil because they don't destroy America, let me show you my fair-use versions of them being oh so crazy" stories (and not just because they've been done to death by every hack writer for the past 30 years). It's because 99% of them require a willful misreading of the source material. Superhero Comics are set in the "real world", if Batman creates a perpetual motion machine next issue then the comic essentially ends because the entire premise no longer works. It's like watching a Disney Cartoon and smugly pointing out that animals can't talk. Even the main comics universes have this problem a lot these days. The X-Men writers in particular love accusing like Spider-Man of being racist because he didn't stop last months Sentinel attack, despite the reader knowing he's wasn't in the X-Men book month because he was stopping Galactus from eating Earth in his own book. I agree, superhero comics shouldn't exist.
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Some Guy TT posted:i like the boys because its clearly spending a lot of effort trying to make superheroes function in a semirealistic way and this doesnt necessarily mean evil it takes awhile for it to actually be confirmed that homelander is evil starlight is pretty well established as being an actually good person and its even hinted that translucent might not have been a total shithead in between the exposition we get about his family life and also realizing in retrospect he made a conscious decision to confront hughie alone without telling his coworkers or bosses who almost certainly would have just murdered him idk a big part of his characterization was that he was a cocky rear end in a top hat both because he believed himself to be completely invulnerable and that the seven were practically guaranteed to come break him out of whatever little trouble he found himself in. it's less that he could have told the seven beforehand therefore he's not all bad, and more he was just an arrogant poo poo. also he was a misogynist who creeped on women in the bathroom. literally nothing redeeming about the guy
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galagazombie posted:I'm generally not a fan of these "The Justice League/Avengers are evil because they don't destroy America, let me show you my fair-use versions of them being oh so crazy" stories this is not the premise of marshal law it's more like judge dredd there was even a little 2000ad crossover with dredd, law and nemesis the warlock 
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and a hellraiser marshal law crossover series and a The Mask crossover  and it is also post-apocalyptic, it's just that american institutions/capitalism are persisting through the total collapse of society at large, it's good 
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Zvahl posted:are you guys talking about Rescue 911 with William Shatner or is this some other show OH YEAH thats the name. the recreations were so great and iirc a lot of the stories didnt really have happy endings either.
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yeah it was on tuesday nights as opposed to unsolved mysteries which was on wednesdays, they really overdramatized the hell out of it and it worked really well but I haven't seen it in a while, they dumped all of the old unsolved mysteries onto prime a few years back and now I just have them on as period background noise~ can't remember my own phone number but i remember broadcast tv schedules from 25 years ago
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The broadcast tv schedule was a necessary facsimile of the natural and religious rhythms which were increasingly erased from the colloquial american experience after industrial production became dominant accross the entire population now we all have the high stress job of program director thrust upon us and most of us are cracking under the pressure Egg Moron has issued a correction as of 04:07 on Jul 12, 2020 |
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i'm the worst consumer in the world in general but i definitely watch a lot less both in quantity and variety nowadays than I did when TV was something I could just have on now I don't really ever want to watch anything at all and the one current show I watch is just because it's basically required gay culture knowledge
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Starting to see Sim’s descent into misogyny. During the beginning of Jaka’s Story he has an editorial that is a single sentence at the bottom of the page, something along the lines of “Guess who just broke up?” Now every third editorial in Melmoth is him venting spleen about feminism, working mothers, etc. He’s firmly entrenched in bitter divorced man misogyny now; only a matter of time now before it gets weird, then completely goes off the edge and becomes full on mysticism. Comic is still great, but Sim has lost it. It’s really fascinating.
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a thought while watching hamilton high —— if you compare the founding fathers to stalin......... like the founding fathers did just as bad poo poo and likely even worse than stalin, so like we should as be as critical of the founding fathers as the mainstream discourse is of stalin anyway what i’m trying to say is hamilton is incredibly grotesque
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God Hole posted:idk a big part of his characterization was that he was a cocky rear end in a top hat both because he believed himself to be completely invulnerable and that the seven were practically guaranteed to come break him out of whatever little trouble he found himself in. it's less that he could have told the seven beforehand therefore he's not all bad, and more he was just an arrogant poo poo. He kinda comes off as basically a modern take on The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen's Invisible Man. Not sure if he's also a flat out rapist but it wouldn't be surprising.
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God Hole posted:idk a big part of his characterization was that he was a cocky rear end in a top hat both because he believed himself to be completely invulnerable and that the seven were practically guaranteed to come break him out of whatever little trouble he found himself in. it's less that he could have told the seven beforehand therefore he's not all bad, and more he was just an arrogant poo poo. yeah my emphasis was more on complete than shithead the point being that the supes themselves tend to have clearly defined motivations to varying degrees of sympathetic rather than just liking to kill for funsies homelander himself comes off as more sympathetic than he has any right to be because he can tell his bosses infantilize him its utterly hilarious how upon finally meeting up with butcher a man whos literally trying to kill him homelander is both magnaminous and respectful just because butcher doesnt try to bullshit him
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I think it helps that 'what if the justice league were evil and hosed up' has been done so many times, including by Justice League itself, that people have realised you still have to make them interesting in their own right, and that in fact makes it all the more interesting. Have they gotten to the X-Men riffs? The idea of the whole thing being basically a front for a pedophile ring is... well, definitely has more potential in a post-Epstein world.
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Here's a horrifying thought: if the USSR had still been around today, they would have made a Lenin rap musical.
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Grevling posted:Here's a horrifying thought: if the USSR had still been around today, they would have made a Lenin rap musical. Hmm. Nah.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:a thought while watching hamilton high —— if you compare the founding fathers to stalin......... like the founding fathers did just as bad poo poo and likely even worse than stalin, so like we should as be as critical of the founding fathers as the mainstream discourse is of stalin what i'm hearing is, someone should write a musical about hot young stalin seizing the day while an embittered trotsky lurks around the fringe singing about permanent revolution.
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Taintrunner posted:Hmm. Nah. Okay, maybe not Lenin but Plekhanov or something.
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Some Guy TT posted:yeah my emphasis was more on complete than shithead the point being that the supes themselves tend to have clearly defined motivations to varying degrees of sympathetic rather than just liking to kill for funsies That's the great improvement over the comic. In print, the supes are just evil, corrupt and selfish. Even the Boys themselves are one-dimensional characitures. The TV show at least invests everyone with a bit of depth and motivation.
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I am currently watching the 2003 film The Core and the first 15 minutes are loving hilarious, there have been about 3 or 4 different problems which could have been their own movies already and the team to drill into the core hasn't even been assembled yet all the problems are due to the magnetic field loving up so at first, people with pace-makers start falling out and dying mysteriously like the happening, next birds start going crazy because they can't navigate like the film the Birds, finally the space shuttle has to land in the canal system of LA because the magnetic field is hosed up so they can't navigate correctly, it's like a 3 minute version of apollo 13 also there is this great clip that points to the american covid response https://i.imgur.com/1mRIsF0.mp4 Egg Moron has issued a correction as of 15:17 on Jul 12, 2020 |
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Zvahl posted:it somehow manages to be a dumber independence day complete with an appearance by the skeletal and terrifying dj qualls dj qualls just said hack the planet 2 times in a row!
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