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Omar al-Bishie posted:what's better for shoota boy orkz, death skulls kulture or bad moons? Badmoonz are the best shooting army, generally speaking, especially with units that have lots and lots of shots. Lootas are the go-to example of this. The more shots you throw out, the more of those ones can turn into hits, or even more shots with DDD. More importantly, the Showin' Off stratagem lets you shoot twice. use that on a fifteen-lad shoota squad, and you can get a fairly ludicrous number of shots at the enemy. On the other hand, Death Skullz are slightly better when you have a unit with a low number of high quality shots. Orks don't really have a lot of those, but the Shokk Attack Gun does some real work there, especially if you upgrade to the relic Souped Up Shokka. Not a lot of shots there, but the ones you do get are so nice that it's better to get to reroll a shot, a wound, and a damage roll. Death skulls also help you out with other things like survivability (with an inborn invuln save) and melee if your units get charged. Because of that, death skulls tend to get slightly more value than badmoonz overall. In 8th, up until games stopped, the meta army was one battalion each of death skulls, badmoonz and evil sunz. You'd put your lots-o-shots units in Bad Moonz, your quality shots units in Death Skulls (and make them a dread waaagh for the relic and another shoot twice stratagem) and melee units into Evil Sunz. That's less viable now that they've changed how detachments and CP work in 9th. We'll have to see how things shake out, but my gut is that we'll see a lot of death skulls and evil sunz armies, dropping the bad moonz. Now, one thing that I haven't brought up here is the Grot Mobs specialist mob from Saga of the Beast. This is essentially a clan that only benefits grot units, but it gives those units an invuln save, and lets grot vehicles roll ones on attacks. This is very good for mek gunz, particularly smasha gunz. Smashas are really effective units, but normally don't get any clan benefits, so this turns them into extremely good shooty units. Before we learned how detachments were going to work in 9th, I was thinking people might swap out their bad moonz detachments for a grot mob battalion to get those benefits. Now? We'll have to see how things shake out. I think we might have missed the window of opportunity where grot mobs would have seen a lot of use. They're still good, and I definitely think they're something you can build a decent army around (depending on how points shake out in 9th), but I'm not sure they'll quite get meta status, especially since it looks like orks might be taking a hit overall with the new rules.
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Maneck posted:With respect to today, I'm not sure if seven hours was a troll or something, but here it was out of stock here by about 30 minutes - tough to be precise because the website was a basket case. You know what, because of my abiding respect for you as a poster and my understanding that you're too busy to read the thread, I'll summarise for you. It's been stated that more copies will come in August once they've produced more boxes. My source for this is a shop that sold 300 copies today and promised that they have an allocation of 200 more copies in that later run. Do take that with a pinch of salt though because it's been established by Kicthner that I made it up, for reasons. Likewise, I Said Come In! linked to a UK shop that had 90 copies remaining at ten past five. Over seven hours after they first went up. Goons were buying from it, but as yet we don't know if they were crisis actors employed by Big Ham. We need to dig deeper.
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JackMann posted:lots o' advice thanks for the reply, I really prefer death skulls colors to bad moons, I hear painting yellow SUCKS
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Lovely joe. Considering who you are in disagreement with, it’s quite impressive that you manage to be the rear end in a top hat who is wrong. JackMann posted:Good stuff about orks I agree with all of this good advice. When it comes to 9th editions, I don’t think losing 2 CPs for making a secondary bad moons patrol detachment will be too much for the benefits it brings for all your shooty stuff, whether it be shootas, lootas or mekguns or similar. Especially since 9th is looking to be quite a shooty edition. On the other hand, orks want a a ton of cp for green tide, more dakka, shoot/fight twice stratagems etc. so every CP counts, and on top of that deathskulls is amazing as monofaction, because it’s great for everything except large blobs and even then the 6++ has some utility (or if you have a nob with PK in there or something). In the end I have an imperial fists army and that’s enough yellow for one man, so I’m just painting my all my boyz blue. I don’t think think it’ll be the optimal though. Revelation 2-13 fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Jul 12, 2020 |
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Revelation 2-13 posted:Lovely joe. Considering who you are in disagreement with, it’s quite impressive that you manage to be the rear end in a top hat who is wrong. so don't make my large mobs death skulls? I was considering a mono army as well, I don't super like the idea of painting yellow or having a mixed paint scheme. edit: an exception to mixed paint jobs is that I kind of want chaos allies. is that something that you can do? I haven't played this game in years a pale ghost fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Jul 12, 2020 |
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We'll have to see how things shake out. A lot of it is going to depend on how well boyz and nobz and meganobz get across the board without getting shot off the table. I feel like you're still going to want evil sunz for your units that go out and do things. A big part of what makes Da Jump and Tellyporta good is that you throw a unit across the board and have it run in, get into melee, and be a pain to deal with. On the other hand, the boards are smaller and terrain denser and more impactful. It may be that charging from Da Jump or deep strike won't matter to orks, in which case mono-faction Death Skulls starts to look a lot better. Again, though, my gut says that we'll see something like Death Skulls battalions (with your Sag Meks, buggies, and shooty units) being supported by Evil Sunz patrols (with your boyz, warboss, and maybe a KFF mek). But this is all speculative. We won't know for sure until we see the points and start playing again. EDIT: Omar al-Bishie posted:so don't make my large mobs death skulls? I was considering a mono army as well, I don't super like the idea of painting yellow or having a mixed paint scheme. Before making any big plans, I'd hold off at least a few weeks until we get the new Chapter Approved and FAQs. While I don't think the FAQs are going to make any major changes to ork rules (aside from things one or two strats going to Command Phase or , it's good to be sure before making any big decisions. However, a lot of this depends on how much different units cost now. That said, if you do go monofaction Death Skulls is almost certainly the best way to go. I'm not convinced about the ability of non-Sunz orks to make it into melee, but Death Skulls do great at pretty much everything else you want to do. They shoot, they fight, they take a slightly stiffer breeze to kill, the whole shebang. If you go multi-faction, you'll still probably want one of your detachments to be Skulls. And blue is a fun color to paint. If you want to get started, there are some units that are fairly likely to be good as Skulls whatever changes come, and are a lot of fun to paint: SAG Mek Buggies (Shokkjump Dragstas and Megatrakk Scrapjets are the best, and also the best-looking in my opinion) Weirdboyz (Though I like to use the weirdnob shaman with some bits to 40k it up a bit instead of the finecast weirdboy) Pick one or two of these to paint in the meantime, and you'll probably not regret it. Even in the unlikely even they turn out to be duds, they're fun models to paint, so you won't have wasted your time. You might also pick some boyz to paint. Even if you end up going with a different build that doesn't use them (or doesn't use them as Death Skulls), it will give you some basic models to practice on to figure out your paint scheme. I will say that if there's a color you're particularly dreading painting, like yellow, contrast paints will pretty much fix the issue. Iyanden and Nazdreg Yellow are among the better contrast paints (as is Blood Angels Red if you're worried about Evil Sunz). I don't use these on my centerpiece models like the warboss or the painboy, but they're great for churning out a batch of boyz or grots so I don't need to put in too much time on an individual model. JackMann fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Jul 12, 2020 |
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Thanks for the info! I have some boyz already and the AoBR set. I'm ordering some bits to make kommandos, which Goonhammer say aren't brokenly OP but are sort of competitive and they seem really fun. I'm mostly going to be playing casual games so I'm not terribly worried about min-maxing just yet. I love the idea of Death Skulls kommandos, I've had them on my mind for YEARS. Got some heads from the stormboyz and burnaboyz kits for gas masks and goggle shenanigans. Sneaky gits coming soon.
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Working on Eldar for my first 40k army, started collecting Harlequins but I think I'm gonna supplement them with either Drukhari or Craftworlds, or just do a Ynnari army and soup it. Talk to me about the Blood of the Phoenix box, while it's still out there for significantly less than MSRP. Apart from the models looking cool, I don't know much about it, nor do I have the knowledge yet to evaluate whether or not they're good inclusions in a list (or even how compatible they are with the things I want to play). As with everything else, I get that 9E will likely throw all this into flux.
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The Blood of the Phoenix box is a hilarious misstep on GW's part, with exactly two new characters and two new infantry kits. The rest of it is models from 1997 through 2011, half of which are good and half of which are basically useless (in 8th edition, to be fair). It's woefully overpriced MSRP at $230 USD. Ironically, the models from 1997 are the next best ones in the box as far as quality of kit goes. I still bought the Eldar half when it came out but man was it a bad deal compared to most other boxes. You save money against MSRP for everything inside but if you're just getting stuff that you want to actually use just get the Falcon and the Venom, and maybe Drazhar and the Incubi? I think they're okay, at least, and all that together is still less than the box's price tag by like $45.
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Pretty sure GW will call this the greatest sales success in their company history and are extremely pleased and surprised at the huge demand for indominitus. Wonder if corona has made many others like me return to the hobby? Didn't buy the set but pre-ordered the normal rules and will try and find chapter approved later through battle scribe.
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Strobe posted:The Blood of the Phoenix box is a hilarious misstep on GW's part, with exactly two new characters and two new infantry kits. The rest of it is models from 1997 through 2011, half of which are good and half of which are basically useless (in 8th edition, to be fair). It's woefully overpriced MSRP at $230 USD. Ironically, the models from 1997 are the next best ones in the box as far as quality of kit goes. Gotcha, appreciated. I asked bc the box can be had for like, $160 online now, which seems like a kickin deal if it was worth buying at $230. Good to know it isn't great (kind of).
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MRLOLAST posted:Pretty sure GW will call this the greatest sales success in their company history and are extremely pleased and surprised at the huge demand for indominitus. Wonder if corona has made many others like me return to the hobby? Actually I think you'll find that this BROKEN PROMISE is a HUGE MISTAKE for GW, because a bunch of people can't handle the idea of not being able to pay $200 for their plastic dolls now and may have to wait until LATER THIS YEAR to get the privilege of spending money.
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Strobe posted:Actually I think you'll find that this BROKEN PROMISE is a HUGE MISTAKE for GW, because a bunch of people can't handle the idea of not being able to pay $200 for their plastic dolls now and may have to wait until LATER THIS YEAR to get the privilege of spending money. Gives them more time to finish painting their backlog. When tournaments start again it will be crazy because people have probably spent months perfecting their painting technique in lack of other things. What probably will happen is that GW will re-launch the box as a start collecting boxes and take out the 1 or 2 models that were unique. Someone said September for a sister's box- does anyone have confirmation for this?
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Every major seller, including themselves, literally sold out on all the continents within an hour (or a little more in case of hyper, super, 'gently caress you'-expensive moon-land). That's like a pretty bad mistake from a business perspective. Sure, you can expect a bunch(most maybe) of people to hold on to their hats and wait to buy till the next round comes out, but there is also a bunch of people who might buy at twice the price from scalpers and blow their plastic budget for the year. People who will lose enthusiasm and interest once the hype wears off and the light of day, with no fomo buzz, shows it to just be plastic toys that aren't even that great. I guarantee there is also quite a few who'll flip their poo poo completely. That's not even going into how they were practically bragging that they made so many boxes no one would miss out on the box if they wanted it. It's incredible to me that a company that generates as much profit as GW doesn't have the ability to even semi-accurately gauge how many boxes they might sell and go with overestimating, rather than underestimating. Once you have the molds, the plastic is the cheap part guys, make some extras. The sheer incompetence of it is just amazing.
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 My sisters I am working on. Definitely not up to a great standard like you guys but it's been fun. Started with some old resin zephyrim that I had for 20 years and then decided to pick up the hobby again. Cheap paints , cheap brushes but then I added some washes from GW. Should have bought a thinner primer because a lot of the faces and details are hosed up. But.. battle ready  P.s spot the Necron warrior you got for free from an old White Dwarf. MRLOLAST fucked around with this message at 08:08 on Jul 12, 2020 |
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Post 'em anyway. My stuff's not great either, but it helps, especially if you ask people for advice. I've gotten a lot better after asking people for advice here and in the mini painting thread.
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Indomitus is like a perfect storm of FOMO. People want the GW boxes because non-battlebox GW prices are so high that the sets are perceived as the best way (in a hobby where you're expected to build whole armies) to get an army-sized pile of models at a reasonable price. And it's a new edition, with really visually attractive new sculpts for the most popular faction. And GW is really good at playing the hype game, mostly through the strategic witholding of information -- what's the MSRP? Wait until preorder goes live (unless you're checking price leaks online from retailers). What's the next release after this? Not saying. How many of these models will be available in (comparatively much more expensive) other sets immediately? No way to tell, and judging by previous precedent it could be anywhere from (the extremely likely) literally two weeks from now to (the extremely unlikely) "It's been two years and still nothing" like Suppressors or even "Literally never!" like the Deathwatch Overkill (?) GSC Aberrant sprue that GW just never resold. (EDIT: Or the Black Reach Deffkoptas; thank you, Omar al-Bishie) Plus it's a global pandemic and we're all going stir-crazy, which both a) increases demand for hobby materials and b) makes everyone touchier and more anxious and more prone to FOMO.. GW could have printed twice as many boxes and it still would have sold out in an hour -- if they could have printed twice as many boxes, which they likely couldn't, given the limits of their factory. But it seems to me the actual problem is as much a function of their hype and price models as it is of the physical limits of their production facilities. If normal GW kits weren't so high-priced, people wouldn't chase after the bundle boxes so much; if they were more open with future releases, people wouldn't commit to buying the bundle boxes just because the box might end up being the only way to get that thing they want for the next year. Do I expect them to address those factors? gently caress no. They're not going to bring the prices of their regular kits down so that people will want their limited boxes less, and they're sure not going to change the way they announce new releases to decrease the amount of hype those announcements drum up. But unless they do one or both of those things that they're definitely not going to do, this is how every limited box (with stuff people actually want, see Blood of the Phoenix for a counter-example) will go for a while. Stephenls fucked around with this message at 08:22 on Jul 12, 2020 |
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it still bugs me that so many cool models aren't on the store online. I like the AoBR deffkoptas and the old model they DO sell is so much less interesting and dynamic
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...oh my God, I just realized what this reminds me of. GW's release schedule is a gatcha game.
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I wonder if this is going to end up burning the scalpers / resellers. Part of the appeal was the value, which evaporates scalpers ask unreasonable money for it while the necron players toss their marines on eBay (and vice versa.) Announcing the rumored reprint before the 25th would be a nail in the fomo. We could see supply substantially overshadowing demand, and very cheap starter halves.
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I think I've decided to go with Iyanden Eldar (Aeldari?) with whatever cool aspect warriors I can tag along, perhaps some shining spears and whatever else. Probably going to base the main color scheme on the Dark Angels scheme in some way. Just looking to play a lower model count army that's fun to paint and semi-competitive for local dice slinging maybe in a year when the pandemic might have a vaccine. Tossing this post into the void for any feedback/thoughts it might elicit.
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Stephenls posted:...oh my God, I just realized what this reminds me of. GW's release schedule is a gatcha game. If that's the case I'm still waiting for the beach event that they all seem to have.
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Cooked Auto posted:If that's the case I'm still waiting for the beach event that they all seem to have. Assault on Black Beach
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tangy yet delightful posted:I think I've decided to go with Iyanden Eldar (Aeldari?) with whatever cool aspect warriors I can tag along, perhaps some shining spears and whatever else. Probably going to base the main color scheme on the Dark Angels scheme in some way. Just looking to play a lower model count army that's fun to paint and semi-competitive for local dice slinging maybe in a year when the pandemic might have a vaccine. So Iyanden is mostly associated with wraith units, which are all good, they're more recent plastic kits and because they're high Toughness and Wounds with decent armour, can be a real pain for enemies to deal with if they rely on small-arms fire. If you're talking about that sort of basis for an army, it is absolutely doable, but you will indeed have a lower model count! In 8th edition everyone would include 3 units of minimum troops (Guardians, Rangers or Dire Avengers) to get command points. That is less necessary now, you could still do so and have a few more CPs than an army without them, but I wouldn't say it's needed. Wraith units, as with all Eldar, really benefit from having Eldar psykers to boost them with powers. It's a big deal to have a 5+ roll to shrug wounds, or +1 to your saves, when your models are so expensive. This is also a common thing to help a big unit of Shining Spears. I love Shining Spears and always include some. The official models are old as hell though. I would strongly advise using the new jetbike models and finding some appropriate lance arms to convert them with. For example I have the old jetbikes/shining spears, I added lances from Warhammer Fantasy Dark Elf Cold One Knights (I think they're now AoS Drakespawn Knights or somesuch). A lot of the Aspects have this model issue. Banshees are new and Dire Avengers are not-as-old (I don't think it's a very good kit though). Not too sure either of those are great tactically. DAs are in an awkward place between good elite small-arms infantry (ie marines) and cheap-as-chips infantry that hold objectives and occupy space (like guardsmen, or Guardians for Eldar). Banshees are lacking in actual killing power and were mostly used to tag enemy units to stop shooting, while avoiding Overwatch. Both those things are changing substantially in 9th. I personally like an army of Shining Spears, Windriders and Vypers, backed up by characters. I'm excited to used an army built from a single Outrider detachment and start with more CP than in 8th edition. But I played Saim-Hann and half their bonus rule (bikes can shoot heavy weapons on the move without penalty) is now baked in to the core rules. Meaning I am only getting a good bonus to my Shining Spears (re-roll charges and a great advance/charge stratagem) and a sweet relic for my Autarch. Will see what day 1 FAQs say about it.
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Clawtopsy posted:Assault on Black Beach Nice. 
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Revelation 2-13 posted:Every major seller, including themselves, literally sold out on all the continents within an hour (or a little more in case of hyper, super, 'gently caress you'-expensive moon-land). Except they didn't, did they? Again, a link to Firestorm with plenty of stock was posted in this thread hours after it went live. Firestorm have been around for ages and are a well-known seller, being used by people in this thread for years. There were other smaller, lesser known retailers with stock too.
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Lungboy posted:Except they didn't, did they? Again, a link to Firestorm with plenty of stock was posted in this thread hours after it went live. Firestorm have been around for ages and are a well-known seller, being used by people in this thread for years. There were other smaller, lesser known retailers with stock too. You’re right. TECHNICALLY they didn’t sell out. You can chalk this whole discussion up to a win for GW and hopefully move on. Good job 
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Revelation 2-13 posted:TECHNICALLY they didn’t sell out. The best kind of correct. This isn't really a competition for GW to win though, people just need a bit of perspective. They produced more copies for day 1 than of any product in their history and their rhetoric on streams clearly reflected that they thought it was a lot. Turns out it wasn't enough, and they are doing a second printing. Beyond that I can't really see the issue.
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Revelation 2-13 posted:Every major seller, including themselves, literally sold out on all the continents within an hour (or a little more in case of hyper, super, 'gently caress you'-expensive moon-land). That's like a pretty bad mistake from a business perspective. Sure, you can expect a bunch(most maybe) of people to hold on to their hats and wait to buy till the next round comes out, but there is also a bunch of people who might buy at twice the price from scalpers and blow their plastic budget for the year. People who will lose enthusiasm and interest once the hype wears off and the light of day, with no fomo buzz, shows it to just be plastic toys that aren't even that great. I guarantee there is also quite a few who'll flip their poo poo completely. That's not even going into how they were practically bragging that they made so many boxes no one would miss out on the box if they wanted it. It's incredible to me that a company that generates as much profit as GW doesn't have the ability to even semi-accurately gauge how many boxes they might sell and go with overestimating, rather than underestimating. Once you have the molds, the plastic is the cheap part guys, make some extras. The sheer incompetence of it is just amazing. You don't actually have any understanding of how manufacturing works, do you?
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Booley posted:I don't actually have any understanding! FTFY. Score one insulting one-liner right back at ya. Ziiiiing! E: vvv: they definitely should be (popping the champagne) it’s a huge success for sure. It’s pretty bad that they are probably losing out on a bunch of initial sales, that’s never what you want, since you generally want to make the best you can out of those huge marketing pushes and the enormous interest in 9th. It might be made up by later purchases though and it’s better having made way too few, than way too many. It’s ultimately a failure of forecasting interest, which is hilarious considering all the tools they have to help them there. Revelation 2-13 fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Jul 12, 2020 |
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GW is definetly popping their champagne and celebrating their huge success. They pulled if their largest launch ever and it went so well that people are literally crying over not being able to get their product. Despite the challenges to the workforce in view of corona.
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Revelation 2-13 posted:FTFY. Score one insulting one-liner right back at ya. Ziiiiing! I get it, it sucks for people who were unable to get a box this run - it looks like they're doing another wave though. I don't get how you think they can just magically have more. The boxes and rulebooks get printed in China, which takes time, and casting the sprues takes time, and they need to store everything, and significantly overestimating demand could be catastrophic in the amount of space it takes to store things. They probably did a lot of the production pre-pandemic, and haven't had a lot of ability to do additional production since then, plus they need to produce all the other products they sell. GW are not in the business of leaving money on the table, they don't get increased profit by artificially limiting supply. It sure seems like if they could've sold more they would've, which is why there's a second wave coming (coincidentally timed about like they started production of it around the time covid started letting things reopen and they realized their initial forecasting might be short of demand).
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I don't even think anyone here has even said that GW is terrible simply for selling out. The issue is after making big promises on the availability of the set, and (fairly or not) being caught off guard by how fast it sold out, they probably do need to print more to keep that promise. I'm sure whatever happens GW will call it a huge success, but it's been 24 hours and so far I've not seen even a statement from them saying "Indomitus has sold out world wide, this took us by surprise" which also looks bad. I mean gently caress, the website even says "Indomitus has arrived". I hope the people here with uncles who work in Gamesworkshop saying they are doing a second round of boxes are correct. If not, it will be a shame, and it will be a broken promise, but it won't really stop anyone from continuing to participate in the hobby nor stop them from buying from scalpers on ebay.
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moths posted:I wonder if this is going to end up burning the scalpers / resellers. Part of the appeal was the value, which evaporates scalpers ask unreasonable money for it while the necron players toss their marines on eBay (and vice versa.) Yeah, the people in my group who would normally think of scalping a box looked at the information we had and decided it wasn't going to be worth it. Hours after the GW sold out in minutes we were looking at places who had stock and erred against it. The two week pre-order window alone was an indicator that printing more stock was a possibility, but that combined with stores talking about promises of hundreds more units allocated for release in late August (the same numbers quoted in different places) was enough not to take on the risk. Although given that I definitely made-up those numbers and shops I probably made-up those friends as well. I think there'll be an announcement this week,. Maybe tomorrow once they are back in the office, or maybe closer to the first wave shipping, but I think it'll come before people have their hands on the first copies to capitalise on the hype and the FOMO. Revelation 2-13 posted:You’re right. TECHNICALLY they didn’t sell out. You can chalk this whole discussion up to a win for GW and hopefully move on. Good job That's beneath you to be honest. I really don't understand why this particular release has people so desperate to twist reality to try and 'win'. I don't remember the thread being this absurd for 8th, or the other big releases that it would openly call people liars or pretend that links posted in the thread didn't exist or didn't count. Kitchner posted:
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:. Think that new products launch themselves on their website worldwide in an automated fashion and that GW HQ in Nottingham is totally empty? Think that social media and marketing people, and senior managers don't occasionally work on weekends for major product launches? Lol continue making yourself look like a bigger twat pal, fine by me.
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Unless Peachy gets off his tits on Tetley and joyrides the WHW Rhino around and through the Nottingham war memorial, culminating in a hostage situation at Ye Olde Trip you are, based on all evidence to date, not going to hear a peep from GW on this matter before the offices open tomorrow. And most likely not until they've had time to have a post-launch review meeting. It's not impossible they'll say something today, but it's not likely or required, you entitled spoon.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Unless Peachy gets off his tits on Tetley and joyrides the WHW Rhino around and through the Nottingham war memorial, culminating in a hostage situation at Ye Olde Trip you are, based on all evidence to date, not going to hear a peep from GW on this matter before the offices open tomorrow. And most likely not until they've had time to have a post-launch review meeting. Why do you have trouble understanding what people are saying? Do you actually read posts people have written, or do you just make up what they said in your head and reply how you want? Just wondering how it's possible you can go from me saying "It's been 24 hours and they've not even acknowledged the fact they've sold out, the main website still even advertises the box, that's not a great look" to your positions of "no one works on weekends you moron" and now when you realise that some people clearly do work weekends for huge global product launches to "they aren't going to be able to have a review meeting you entitled spoon". Seriously, I get you don't like me and you really want to like, own me or something, but it's not hard to fire off a tweet saying "We know indomitus sold out really quickly and there's a lot of disappointed people, we will be able to give you move information on Monday". Businesses do this sort of thing all the time, and I know you like to defend GW no matter what they are doing, but they are also a company capable of doing such things. Not really sure how thinking GW may be harming themselves a bit (in an ultimately insignificant way as I've already said it's not going to really deter any hobbyists) but hey buddy, you do you.
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man i kinda wish i hadn’t bought indomitus. is the 40k player base this terrible in general or
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jesus WEP posted:man i kinda wish i hadn’t bought indomitus. is the 40k player base this terrible in general or Nah, to be honest I lose my temper at some people in this thread as they are arseholes when I shouldn't, but it's never been a problem when dealing with people in real life. Mostly because the people here who immediately start insulting people and telling them to gently caress off when they disagree with them wouldn't dare do it in real life.
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While we’re on the topic of models that don’t show up in their own kits: Plastic Obliterators. The sculpts are so good, and they actually seem decent-ish on the tabletop, but they were only available in Shadowspear (and by extension, Start Collecting Chaos Space Marines, since from what I understand that’s just the Chaos half of Shadowspear.) Thing is, I (and I’m sure many others) didn’t want the Master of Possessions, or Greater Possessed, or the Venomcrawler. But you can’t buy Obliterators separately, and even eBay has them for ludicrous prices. I have Obliterators now, but I honestly feel like I should have just bought the drat Start Collecting box. 
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