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Vivian Darkbloom posted:This made me feel like it wasn't so bad most of the time because the provinces were gigantic. But I was kind of misremembering, they weren't that big, at least for playable areas. EU1 and EU2 shared one map and it was pretty cool considering the game released in 2000. Oh yeah, they decided to use the hideous board game map instead of drawing it to resemble the actual earth.
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SE Asia games are a lot of fun, but they go way too fast and are usually over by like 1500 because that's when you run out of meaningful challengers so it would be nice if the devs could do something to address that because the start of the game is cool and then two wars later you go from an OPM to regional super power because everyone around you is too small.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Oh yeah, they decided to use the hideous board game map instead of drawing it to resemble the actual earth. The original EU3 map was somehow even worse lol
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Ithle01 posted:SE Asia games are a lot of fun, but they go way too fast and are usually over by like 1500 because that's when you run out of meaningful challengers so it would be nice if the devs could do something to address that because the start of the game is cool and then two wars later you go from an OPM to regional super power because everyone around you is too small. The increased province density and number of tags will definitely help with alleviating this, I think. It should provide more time and opportunity for the AI to blob up and present a slightly bigger roadblock to the player.
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Jul 14, 2020 15:23
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Deltasquid posted:The original EU3 map was somehow even worse lol 
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Jul 14, 2020 15:24
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That's gotta be like a beta screenshot or something right? I know I didn't start playing until after Napoleon's Ambition came out but come on, there's no way that was EU3 1.0. Edit: Lmao I'm the yin-yang symbol for what I assume is stability. Beet fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Jul 14, 2020 |
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Jul 14, 2020 15:34
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Shawon Dunston posted:That's gotta be like a beta screenshot or something right? I know I didn't start playing until after Napoleon's Ambition came out but come on, there's no way that was EU3 1.0. In fairness, yes, I think this is a pre-release screenshot (basedon the menu in the bottom right being missing), but it is one of the ones used on the store page for EU3 complete, so clearly they considered it representative! Here's another that looks closer to how I remember it from around release: 
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Reveilled posted:In fairness, yes, I think this is a pre-release screenshot (basedon the menu in the bottom right being missing), but it is one of the ones used on the store page for EU3 complete, so clearly they considered it representative! Here's another that looks closer to how I remember it from around release: I'd heard rumors of Red Austria but I never believed them until now.
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Jul 14, 2020 15:46
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SEA update looks dope as heck. Palembang being Hindu means you can be a Hindu Pirate Republic super early and easy which is lots of fun.
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Jul 14, 2020 15:53
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:New EU4 dev diary on Maritime Southeast Asia: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/eu4-development-diary-14th-of-july-2020.1405436/
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Jul 14, 2020 16:03
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Shawon Dunston posted:I'd heard rumors of Red Austria but I never believed them until now. I had completely forgotten about orange Denmark tho
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Jul 14, 2020 16:05
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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PittTheElder posted:I had completely forgotten about orange Denmark tho
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Jul 14, 2020 16:10
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i hope they have an event for the earthquake that destroyed much of prambanan that will allow a hindu state to restore it, because that would be dope
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Jul 14, 2020 16:11
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Shawon Dunston posted:The increased province density and number of tags will definitely help with alleviating this, I think. It should provide more time and opportunity for the AI to blob up and present a slightly bigger roadblock to the player. I hope so, one of the issues I've noticed is that because of the way the region is defined AE is effectively meaningless and alliances are less potent because of navies so there's no real penalty to grabbing as much territory as possible at all times.
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Lance of Llanwyln posted:Burgundy is some weird yellow-orange color too. That's because it's Spain.
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Jul 14, 2020 16:21
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that wasteland in Sumatra kills me. Will have to walk a gazillion miles to get to the province just west of me
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yikes! posted:that wasteland in Sumatra kills me. Will have to walk a gazillion miles to get to the province just west of me
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yikes! posted:that wasteland in Sumatra kills me. Will have to walk a gazillion miles to get to the province just west of me I was curious about this myself so I did some cursory checking around and apparently those mountains get up to around three and a half kilometers high and even to this day rail ways in Sumatra are basically disconnected. The interior wasn't even opened by the Dutch until the later 19th century. The travel sites I looked at described it as "rough by South East Asian standards" and basically said to just take a plane if you want to go somewhere.
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Ithle01 posted:"rough by South East Asian standards" Haha that's really saying something. Thanks for looking into it, that's neat.
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yikes! posted:that wasteland in Sumatra kills me. Will have to walk a gazillion miles to get to the province just west of me > use boat
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Jul 14, 2020 17:58
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Would make sense if the malayan region tags got marines. I still haven't used marines but Sumatra's going to be wars that are almost all naval landings.
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Jul 14, 2020 18:35
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Would make sense if the malayan region tags got marines. More like dominoes. Knock em over one at a time. edit: you probably want to take maritime in this region anyway.
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Jul 14, 2020 19:23
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When people say no cb, does that mean declaring war on someone without a cb?
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Qubee posted:When people say no cb, does that mean declaring war on someone without a cb?
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Qubee posted:When people say no cb, does that mean declaring war on someone without a cb? Yep. Though no cb wars are not advisable outside of niche stuff involving OPMs or vassalizing the Byzantines before the Ottomans eat them.
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no cb best cb (note, no cbs are in fact not the best cb)
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Shawon Dunston posted:Yep. Though no cb wars are not advisable outside of niche stuff involving OPMs or vassalizing the Byzantines before the Ottomans eat them. Yeah, although there's a number of those special situations. Getting a foothold in e.g. Ireland or Africa or the New World before you have the range to core or colonize there is a key element in some strategies: no-CB some poor bastard, vassalize them, then conquer and core one of their neighbours. Can also be worth it to kill a center of reformation. Or against someone who's allied to some power that's in a coalition against you, so you can get a truce against that coalition member. And sometimes you just need to get some strategic location before someone else does.
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As in, when you're starting out you shouldn't be using no-CBs until you have a better understanding of the cost involved through playing the game normally. It's not just the Admin points for stability! You also might want to pay down your War Exhaustion with Diplo points, and there's an aggressive expansion penalty for the countries in close proximity, amplified by same culture and same religion.
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Qubee posted:When people say no cb, does that mean declaring war on someone without a cb? Yep. The only thing which would be more painful than no cb declaring on somebody is no cb truce breaking (literally only do this in fringe cases like if you're playing as the Byzantines and won your first war against the Ottomans and you're ready to go for round 2 as soon as the first war ends)
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Deltasquid posted:Yep. The only thing which would be more painful than no cb declaring on somebody is no cb truce breaking (literally only do this in fringe cases like if you're playing as the Byzantines and won your first war against the Ottomans and you're ready to go for round 2 as soon as the first war ends) That exact scenario is the only time I’ve ever done a truce-breaking war and it owned. So satisfying.
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Huh, what happened to my alliance with Austria, I don't remember a call to arms I missed or anything.... ...oh. Oh.
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how does a gamer join the hre nowadays? im not allowed to move my capital into it anymore
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Open the HRE window and there is a join HRE button in the lower left corner, mouse over to see why it's grayed out if it is. Very convenient. 
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Just keep in mind there is effectively a development cap on joining the HRE, past ~150 or so you won't be able to. Not 100% sure if that counts vassals or not though.
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How does Spain do the 'Spain is the Emperor' achievement then? I started out the game as Castille with too high of a development to join.
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AnEdgelord posted:How does Spain do the 'Spain is the Emperor' achievement then? I started out the game as Castille with too high of a development to join. Vassalise four electors and they'll vote for you the next time the emperor dies. Elected emperors are automatically granted membership. E: Or just make friends with electors who don't like the current emperor.
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Man, I haven't played EU4 since like, 4 years ago (or whenever Westernisation was still a thing) but the SEA update makes me want to play again. I'm Malaysian so Malacca is my default start for most stuff  What's the important DLCs to get nowadays?
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You don’t have to be in the empire to get elected.
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Ibblebibble posted:Man, I haven't played EU4 since like, 4 years ago (or whenever Westernisation was still a thing) but the SEA update makes me want to play again. I'm Malaysian so Malacca is my default start for most stuff I did a mini-effortpost about the DLCs since 2017 a few pages back, I'll grab a link in a sec, but if you're that far behind in DLC, there is another option. They've introduced a subscription model for $5/mo that gives you everything, so if you're looking to get back in for a bit, that's probably the best bet since you can just unsub when you get bored again and not spend a hundred dollars on DLCs, especially since there was just a sale at the release of Emperor last month so there probably won't be another one for a few months (though it's possible they do another big sale come CK3's release in September). Edit: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3840754&pagenumber=299&perpage=40#post506349622 covers everything from Mandate of Heaven to the present. Beet fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Jul 15, 2020 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:You don’t have to be in the empire to get elected. Always fun for a big blobby power to usurp the HRE and expand it in directions God and His angels never intended.
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