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Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


Megillah Gorilla posted:

Just a normal day, loading hundreds of blindfolded people onto trains. Nothing to see here.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/OddballFairGerbil-mobile.mp4

What's the source on this, just a random LiveLeak?

Not that I doubt the authenticity, but you know someone will at some point.

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LordArgh
Mar 17, 2009

Nap Ghost
that's a lot of guards per handcuffed and blindfolded prisoner

Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012
nah they're just doing drills on organising people during the chinese new year rush

not guards, just train attendants, and the blindfolds are tcm because it's really sunny outside!!

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Not So Fast posted:

What's the source on this, just a random LiveLeak?

Not that I doubt the authenticity, but you know someone will at some point.

Footage shows hundreds of blindfolded and shackled prisoners in China – video

Also, the full video, unlike what I said in my previous post, shows them being taken from the train station. So, my bad there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGYoeJ5U7cQ

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

MarcusSA posted:

That’s kinda cool.

Kinda have the same power as the gun that dude on YouTube made years so though

I know it's just a propaganda piece, but handheld rail guns (as anti-personell) weapons are probably not going to be a thing (ever*) since killing people with small arms usually requires hundreds of rounds per hit, which is something rail guns will never surpass conventional guns in (volume of fire).

Rail guns whole point for existing is the hyper-velocity aspect, which is still something R&D is struggling with as current gen rail guns love to eat their barrels.

*Maybe in a sniping role?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


The power requirements are also absurd. It's hard to imagine anything being more efficient at the scale of small arms than chemical propellants. Short of someone inventing cold micro-fusion reactors like Fallout.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
Battery tech is at the point where you can get a few rifle-sized rounds off, but nothing approaching a useful semi-auto ROF, let alone automatic.

You're absolutely right though. When it comes to stored energy and portability, powder (chemical) is still king.

There is a reason why the US only really cares about using the tech for long-range penetrating artillery, as anything else is not cost effective.

velocirapstar
Oct 8, 2018

Get Confident, Stupid!

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Just a normal day, loading hundreds of blindfolded people onto trains. Nothing to see here.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/OddballFairGerbil-mobile.mp4

Escape room experiences are getting more and more elaborate.

That's seriously shocking but not surprising, though. Makes me nostalgic how when I lived there, the most popular/pirated show in the country was "Prison Break" :thunk:

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Blistex posted:

Battery tech is at the point where you can get a few rifle-sized rounds off, but nothing approaching a useful semi-auto ROF, let alone automatic.

You're absolutely right though. When it comes to stored energy and portability, powder (chemical) is still king.

There is a reason why the US only really cares about using the tech for long-range penetrating artillery, as anything else is not cost effective.

And why the Navy is leading the development, they already have handy nuclear reactors around to power them. IIRC the new class of carriers have an entire extra reactor in the expectation they'll be mounting lasers and possibly railguns in the future.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
The biggest non-starter for man-portable railguns is that even if you solve the power-to-weight ratio for batteries vs powder, the heat and wear / rate of fire, weather variability for battery tech, and everything else, you still can't really gain that much more kinetic energy from anything a person can carry.

Grand Fromage posted:

And why the Navy is leading the development, they already have handy nuclear reactors around to power them. IIRC the new class of carriers have an entire extra reactor in the expectation they'll be mounting lasers and possibly railguns in the future.
Lol holy poo poo, take the anti-ship weapons off the planes and just give them more ECM and targeting to light stuff up over the horizon.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Have any of you sexpats ever stopped to consider that maybe China is more technologically advanced than the US?

Zakrello
Feb 17, 2015

missile imbound

Squalid posted:

I know this thread has a lot of people who work in industries related to international trade with China. So I was wondering if the end of Hong Kong's preferential status is going to have any immediate effects on business? I'm having a hard time gauging just how meaningful and impactful this change in policy will be.

China has been abusing the HK preferential status with US to "legally" import sensitive technologies including armory from the west.

Also, since HK was treated as a separate entity we get to have our own currency HKD (which is tied to USD for now and it will likely change), have our own central bank (HKMA), have various separate I/E quotas like textile products, loose control to sign off HK visa (versus China), etc etc.

Now the status is over, all of the above will be gone, HK is no more than a regular China city and of course, there will be no more reason for foreign business to stay here since we are being treated the same as Beijing or Shanghai or Shenzhen, why bother?

We were the window to the west for China, it is getting seal-closed because the house owner thinks it's function is now over. Did I mentioned they do not really have another window or door? 1b1r doesn't look good enough to me. enjoy the slow painful death due to suffocation, I'll wait.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
This made BBC News and would be funny if Pompeo wasn't so awful himself. Anyone who's managed to stay in Trump's cabinet since the beginning can't really get a smile out of me.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Mr. Fix It posted:

wasnt that pevan stan? in any case, p sure he got thread banned

I still remember him calling me an idiot for not trusting China denying person-to-person transmission of SARS-CoV-2 after he cited a middle eastern medical journal about a completely different coronavirus in the last thread. That dude loved the taste of PRC boots.

E:

McGavin posted:

Have any of you sexpats ever stopped to consider that maybe China is more technologically advanced than the US?

Lol. Is that why most of their R and D is stealing IP from other countries?

Tezzeract
Dec 25, 2007

Think I took a wrong turn...
This might be bad reporting, but China's levying a global tax to its expats? Does this mean people working abroad have to pay both that country and China's taxes?

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/china-starts-taxing-its-citizens-global-income-for-the-first-time

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Tezzeract posted:

This might be bad reporting, but China's levying a global tax to its expats? Does this mean people working abroad have to pay both that country and China's taxes?

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/china-starts-taxing-its-citizens-global-income-for-the-first-time

Yeah. I don't see anything about an income limit on it though. The US does the same thing, but unless you're making over $106,000 a year you don't have to pay anything so it's just for taxing rich assholes. My guess is China wants to do the same thing to go after the people hiding their income and assets abroad, not that they care about getting a cut of some dude working at a restaurant in Queens. But who knows.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!
chinar is terrified of trade sanctions and permanent border closings searching for innovative sources of revenue

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


So it turns out the US was involved with the Hong Kong protests. Specifically, helping the Hong Kong police during the crackdown. https://lausan.hk/2020/state-department-train-hong-kong-police/

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

Zakrello posted:

China has been abusing the HK preferential status with US to "legally" import sensitive technologies including armory from the west.

Also, since HK was treated as a separate entity we get to have our own currency HKD (which is tied to USD for now and it will likely change), have our own central bank (HKMA), have various separate I/E quotas like textile products, loose control to sign off HK visa (versus China), etc etc.

Now the status is over, all of the above will be gone, HK is no more than a regular China city and of course, there will be no more reason for foreign business to stay here since we are being treated the same as Beijing or Shanghai or Shenzhen, why bother?

We were the window to the west for China, it is getting seal-closed because the house owner thinks it's function is now over. Did I mentioned they do not really have another window or door? 1b1r doesn't look good enough to me. enjoy the slow painful death due to suffocation, I'll wait.

my condolences :(

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

velocirapstar posted:

Escape room experiences are getting more and more elaborate.




drat you I wanted to make this joke!



Grand Fromage posted:

And why the Navy is leading the development, they already have handy nuclear reactors around to power them. IIRC the new class of carriers have an entire extra reactor in the expectation they'll be mounting lasers and possibly railguns in the future.

Yeah its gonna be real interesting to see what comes out of this.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

McGavin posted:

Have any of you sexpats ever stopped to consider that maybe China is more technologically advanced than the US?

Ya know what?



I think you are right

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

There are lots of rumors floating around that the CCP is behind this latest twitter stuff which would be hilarious.

Burn twitter to the ground IMO.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
That doesn't make much sense to me. The value of staying on and staying quiet would have been huge, the exit is too messy, and social media companies have already proven themselves immune to scandal so this won't drive everyone to TikTok or something else the CCP controls.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/dvknfcd/status/1283210006372835328

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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MarcusSA posted:

There are lots of rumors floating around that the CCP is behind this latest twitter stuff which would be hilarious.

Twitter stuff?

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

Fojar38 posted:

Twitter stuff?
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/07/musk-obama-biden-bezos-gates-bitcoin-scam-hits-twitter-in-coordinated-blitz/

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Shumagorath posted:

That doesn't make much sense to me. The value of staying on and staying quiet would have been huge, the exit is too messy, and social media companies have already proven themselves immune to scandal so this won't drive everyone to TikTok or something else the CCP controls.

I really feel like they way they are doing it is more of a “hey look at what we can do if we really wanted to do” kinda thing.

The scam part doesn’t make much sense.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

MarcusSA posted:

I really feel like they way they are doing it is more of a “hey look at what we can do if we really wanted to do” kinda thing.

The scam part doesn’t make much sense.
It's a pretty piss-poor demonstration of cyber power in that case. Didn't DoD knock a bunch of Russia off the internet prior to the midterms? The table buy-in for that game is at least a small electric grid. China has been loving with BGP on and off for awhile and that hasn't elicited government action I can recall.

Dont Touch ME
Apr 1, 2018

Grand Fromage posted:

So it turns out the US was involved with the Hong Kong protests. Specifically, helping the Hong Kong police during the crackdown. https://lausan.hk/2020/state-department-train-hong-kong-police/

:911: support are troops :911:

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Shumagorath posted:

It's a pretty piss-poor demonstration of cyber power in that case. Didn't DoD knock a bunch of Russia off the internet prior to the midterms? The table buy-in for that game is at least a small electric grid. China has been loving with BGP on and off for awhile and that hasn't elicited government action I can recall.

It feels more like a North Korean cyberattack to me, they fund a bunch of stuff with proceeds from cybercrime (and also meth)

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
That's definitely a better fit, though that's one hell of a find to burn for 12 bitscoined :lol:

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Shumagorath posted:

That's definitely a better fit, though that's one hell of a find to burn for 12 bitscoined :lol:

They still had people sending them bitcoins like an hour ago, which is so weird to me.

I’m sure the hope was that people would fall for it harder, getting Elon Musk’s account was a good move since he has a ton of insane followers. I’m honestly shocked it was a low-six figure take overall.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

The marks for that scam are so specific I'm surprised they made any money at all. You're looking for a Twitter user who follows tech personalities and owns bitcoin, but is somehow stupid enough send their bitcoin to a random wallet.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

McGavin posted:

The marks for that scam are so specific I'm surprised they made any money at all. You're looking for a Twitter user who follows tech personalities and owns bitcoin, but is somehow stupid enough send their bitcoin to a random wallet.

yeah, people who follow elon musk on twitter

anyway 'owning bit coins' and 'really into twitter' are two huge red flags on people so it was probably remarkably fertile ground

hakimashou fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Jul 16, 2020

LordArgh
Mar 17, 2009

Nap Ghost

McGavin posted:

You're looking for a Twitter user who follows tech personalities and owns bitcoin, but is somehow stupid enough send their bitcoin to a random wallet.

it is strange, to me, that it seems you find it hard to believe that people who fulfill all these criteria are rare

Teketeketeketeke
Mar 11, 2007


Happened to see this and thought it fairly appropriate:

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Mr. Smile Face Hat
Sep 15, 2003

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy
https://twitter.com/iandenisjohnson/status/1283710720891334656?s=20

:qq: My staffs :qq: Why is the U.S. suddenly so mean while China has been such a nice dictatorship? :qq:

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!
I recall seeing posts or comments about this guy, Carl Zha. Can anyone give me a rundown of who he is?

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1283929340015603712?s=19

Rabelais D
Dec 11, 2012

ts'u nnu k'u k'o t'khye:
A demon doth defecate at thy door
I empathise a little, the guy devoted his life to studying Chinese and writing about China; thing is, it's China who kicked him out, not the US or anybody else, yet he seems to have the old orientalist glasses on, "how dare any government stand up to China, I want to visit more holy mountains and collect more martial arts sticks".

Quite a lot of people have written very perceptively about China without having ever been there.

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GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

MetaJew posted:

I recall seeing posts or comments about this guy, Carl Zha. Can anyone give me a rundown of who he is?

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1283929340015603712?s=19

rando internet person who is definitely not the chinese equivalent of a sex tourist

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