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Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer

Dirt Road Junglist posted:

Where I am, it’s a combo of the samaccountname being deeply tied into multiple dependent systems, and also being the user’s login name for everything. Computer at boot. VPN. Everything on or off SSO. For someone who’s got strong feelings about looking at their deadname or ex’s surname multiple times a day, regardless of any external facing aliases...yikes.
Several times we've had new employees advise during their first week that "actually, I go by 'X'" and I've just nuked their whole AD profile and created a new one. The older the employee, the more fraught that is, but in a lot of cases, I think it's probably easier than changing the name.

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A Frosty Witch
Apr 21, 2005

I was just looking at it and I suddenly got this urge to get inside. No, not just an urge - more than that. It was my destiny to be here; in the box.

PirateDentist posted:

Larches also used language that was male coded to refer to themselves in the past. So while yes, while some re-examining is always good to keep in mind, it's not that unreasonable in the context of the thread if you've followed it for a while.

This is true! I don't mean to hijack the thread about this, but it's something I kept hidden for a very long time. It was the deciding factor of my moving. Now I get to be my authentic self and work for a really understanding and supportive business in a neat city on top of it.

Point being, don't feel any sort of guilt for not knowing. No one knew until like three days ago. Anyways, she/her if you don't mind.

I do have a vagueish television station/Chief Engineer update tho:

The owner of the company I now work for was telling me about my references and how interesting the one from the station was (the GM).

Boss: "What's up with the CE?"
Me: "What do you mean?"
Boss: "Your reference referred to him as 'the worst human being to ever walk this planet.' That sounds like a fun place to work."
Me: "Oh, yeah he was... Not okay. Like, at all."

That was pretty much all I said on the matter. I know better than to run my mouth about previous employment. I'm just highly amused that word of CE's absolutely cursed existence has now followed me passively across the country.

He has tainted my very existence and I will never truly be free.

Moo the cow
Apr 30, 2020

Do you mind if we use this opportunity to say 'congratulations' on your butterfly moment?

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

larchesdanrew posted:

He has tainted my very existence and I will never truly be free.

You can't get rid of his lingering presence and influence; You might need it someday :downsrim:.

ssb
Feb 16, 2006

WOULD YOU ACCOMPANY ME ON A BRISK WALK? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU!!


GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

Comedy Option: we let people pick their own usernames and they're stuck with it.

"Welcome to the company ButtMonkey69!"

Back 15-20 years ago, we used to let grad students pick their own login/email name. We'd give a spiel about how it was the e-mail they'd use to contact their professors and future employment prospects, as well as show up on all their handins and the like. Basically everyone picked something reasonable, most just copied their standard university login.

This one dude picked something like wh00ps99. We clarified that he wasn't trying to give us his password, which would have been odd since he was in the room with us, but no, that's what he wanted. He was absolutely sure. Yes, definitely.

We gave it to him since it didn't violate any policy.

About 2 months later, he was back asking to change it to something less idiotic.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

Neddy Seagoon posted:

You can't get rid of his lingering presence and influence; You might need it someday :downsrim:.

Can she make a wreath out of his lingering presence for Christmas?

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday

Kurieg posted:

Can she make a wreath out of his lingering presence for Christmas?

As long as it's themed around the Ghost of Christmas Future.

Really, Halloween is probably more appropriate.

A Frosty Witch
Apr 21, 2005

I was just looking at it and I suddenly got this urge to get inside. No, not just an urge - more than that. It was my destiny to be here; in the box.

Kurieg posted:

Can she make a wreath out of his lingering presence for Christmas?

At these prices??

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


Shugojin posted:

It's really annoying how rare it is to find bosses who just understand "sometimes computer a dumb sack of poo poo for literally no identifiable reason and there's nothing anyone could have done"

I feel like retail workers catch a LOT of poo poo from customers when technology doesn't function properly. The amount of apologies and shrinking I see when the card reader or scanner isn't working properly tells me customers are loving assholes when they're inconvenienced for more than a few seconds at a time.

When I see that, I reassure them the best that I can, typically along the lines of "haha, yeah. I've been working in technology for more than 20 years. Nothing surprises me anymore". That typically will stop the spinning and allow them to continue to do their job without fear of me going off of them.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


AlexDeGruven posted:

I feel like retail workers catch a LOT of poo poo from customers when technology doesn't function properly. The amount of apologies and shrinking I see when the card reader or scanner isn't working properly tells me customers are loving assholes when they're inconvenienced for more than a few seconds at a time.

When I see that, I reassure them the best that I can, typically along the lines of "haha, yeah. I've been working in technology for more than 20 years. Nothing surprises me anymore". That typically will stop the spinning and allow them to continue to do their job without fear of me going off of them.

Same with customer support people on the phone when they front load apologies and assurances about how long it's going to take them to look up your details in their system (which is usually like 5 seconds).

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

larchesdanrew posted:

At these prices??

You're right, you'd be better off putting it in a box somewhere to be forgotten.

Or hiding it behind a brick wall in your wine cellar.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Kurieg posted:

Or hiding it behind a brick wall in your wine cellar.

I think you'd have a better time enticing the CE with a stack of new Buffalo drives. :v:

Alarbus
Mar 31, 2010
On name chat, I use my middle name, and both major companies I've worked for handled it pretty well on start. Had a funny experience at the prior company, my now-wife was reconciling user lists for the system she ran and commented to her boss "Who's this rear end in a top hat who doesn't use his first name?" :D I'm your rear end in a top hat now, hon!

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


AlexDeGruven posted:

I feel like retail workers catch a LOT of poo poo from customers when technology doesn't function properly. The amount of apologies and shrinking I see when the card reader or scanner isn't working properly tells me customers are loving assholes when they're inconvenienced for more than a few seconds at a time.

When I see that, I reassure them the best that I can, typically along the lines of "haha, yeah. I've been working in technology for more than 20 years. Nothing surprises me anymore". That typically will stop the spinning and allow them to continue to do their job without fear of me going off of them.

Oh you're absolutely right. I got so much anger working at a Subway in a period when chip readers didn't work right. It didn't just not work, if someone put the chip in it would break the whole loving thing so that the entire credit card reader would take sixty seconds to figure its poo poo out and talk to the point of sale for any other transaction afterward until a full reboot of the point of sale.

We tried blocking the chip reader but people would unblock it to use it. Of course, immediately after it would work and was in fact required, everyone immediately switched to trying to swipe first :bang:

PirateDentist
Mar 28, 2006

Sailing The Seven Seas Searching For Scurvy

Kurieg posted:

You're right, you'd be better off putting it in a box somewhere to be forgotten.

Or hiding it behind a brick wall in your wine cellar.

As I said these words I busied myself among the pile of bones of which I have before spoken. Throwing them aside, I soon uncovered a quantity of Buffalo NAS devices and mortar. With these materials and with the aid of my trowel, I began vigorously to wall up the entrance of the niche.

e:

Kyrosiris posted:

I think you'd have a better time enticing the CE with a stack of new Buffalo drives. :v:
:hmmyes:

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

larchesdanrew posted:

Anyways, she/her if you don't mind.
The nice thing about the internet is that to me everyone is faceless, so now the human shaped blob of sadness behind a computer is slightly happier.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Arquinsiel posted:

The nice thing about the internet is that to me everyone is faceless, so now the human shaped blob of sadness behind a computer is slightly happier.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


larchesdanrew posted:

This is true! I don't mean to hijack the thread about this, but it's something I kept hidden for a very long time. It was the deciding factor of my moving. Now I get to be my authentic self and work for a really understanding and supportive business in a neat city on top of it.

Point being, don't feel any sort of guilt for not knowing. No one knew until like three days ago. Anyways, she/her if you don't mind.

I do have a vagueish television station/Chief Engineer update tho:

The owner of the company I now work for was telling me about my references and how interesting the one from the station was (the GM).

Boss: "What's up with the CE?"
Me: "What do you mean?"
Boss: "Your reference referred to him as 'the worst human being to ever walk this planet.' That sounds like a fun place to work."
Me: "Oh, yeah he was... Not okay. Like, at all."

That was pretty much all I said on the matter. I know better than to run my mouth about previous employment. I'm just highly amused that word of CE's absolutely cursed existence has now followed me passively across the country.

He has tainted my very existence and I will never truly be free.

So, wait. The GM at you old job recognizes that the Chief Engineer is a sack of poo poo, yet still continues to employ them? that's messed up.

A Frosty Witch
Apr 21, 2005

I was just looking at it and I suddenly got this urge to get inside. No, not just an urge - more than that. It was my destiny to be here; in the box.

Darchangel posted:

So, wait. The GM at you old job recognizes that the Chief Engineer is a sack of poo poo, yet still continues to employ them? that's messed up.

There's a very complicated relationship there that basically even though the GM hates the CE, the CFO of the television division has final say in who gets fired and he's absolutely in love with the CE. So even though the CE is worthless and everyone hates him, he's still there and still being a worthless jerk.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

larchesdanrew posted:

There's a very complicated relationship there that basically even though the GM hates the CE, the CFO of the television division has final say in who gets fired and he's absolutely in love with the CE. So even though the CE is worthless and everyone hates him, he's still there and still being a worthless jerk.

There was a contractor that the CTO at my client insisted we use, despite the fact that he was actively terrible at his job and alternated between "Constructing elaborate shell functions to hide the fact that he spent two months doing nothing" or "Rolling back repositories to 3 months prior because that's the last time he did a get." When we tried to fire him the CTO said if we did so we'd lose the contract.

Turns out they were buddies and any time they were on a project together the CTO could take him out to skin bars on the company's dime because it was an entertainment expense.

Nepotism is a hell of a thing.


Dear god do I have stories about that man.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Kurieg posted:

Dear god do I have stories about that man.

:justpost:

Volguus
Mar 3, 2009

Kurieg posted:

"Rolling back repositories to 3 months prior because that's the last time he did a get."

How is that possible? push --force? If yes, to not have that disabled is a disaster waiting to happen.

A Frosty Witch
Apr 21, 2005

I was just looking at it and I suddenly got this urge to get inside. No, not just an urge - more than that. It was my destiny to be here; in the box.

Please do the needful

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



larchesdanrew posted:

There's a very complicated relationship there that basically even though the GM hates the CE, the CFO of the television division has final say in who gets fired and he's absolutely in love with the CE. So even though the CE is worthless and everyone hates him, he's still there and still being a worthless jerk.

CE can't go. The drones Buffalos need him.

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003
This is obviously an atypical experience but I did IT off the books in Japan for a stint; one time one of our new guys fubar'd a customer's machine at the colo and took them offline for a couple of days. As reparations the CEO and president took the client to China to bang prostitutes. They invited me but I declined as it'd involve imprompt PTO at my day job and, while I was in this job for the experience, I was not in it for that kind of experience. They both came back with STDs which were, luckily, treatable.

There was also some foreigner they had actually above the table working for them who they rendered homeless because he kept loving things up and they kept deducting his pay for it. At some point a couple of months after starting, he couldn't make rent and had to move out of Tokyo back to the bumfuck town he started in and went back to teaching English.

Working in Asia was weird as gently caress in general but this whole situation was double-weird.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

Volguus posted:

How is that possible? push --force? If yes, to not have that disabled is a disaster waiting to happen.

Checked out the entire object and did an overwrite instead of a merge. Then checked it in. After I was able to recover the previous version of the objects he overwrote he then proceeded to do it again.

So after I recovered, again(With more robust backups, just in case), I had to hand hold this man making way more than me on how to do a merge, since my team lead was too busy trying not to laugh and/or scream at him in rage.

Fast forward a few months later, he was demoing one of the tentpoles of the new release and everything turned out fine in the demo, but literally no one else could get it to work properly. There were constantly bugs filed, we'd assign them to him, and he'd close them a few days later as fixed, as it was working for him. Eventually my team lead got tired of this and assigned the bug to me.

I don't have a copy of his code but it was basically

quote:

var returnvalue=[Hardcoded result]
<Query up some completely unrelated record he had created for this purpose>
<Do a bunch of operations to that record that don't actually do anything but eat up processor time so it looks like it's doing incredibly complicated math>
return returnvalue;
When demoing he would use values that would evaluate to his hardcoded result, but literally everyone else was getting that value too regardless of their inputs.
When I pointed this out to my team lead she told the project manager to move him to someone else's team or she'd quit on the spot. I think he ended up doing QA.

The one time they flew him out to our location (There was a crunch week or something towards the end of the project and having everyone in one place made it easier to sucker people into overtime) he would regularly watch porn on his phone during meetings (With women in the room, mind) and at work lunches (In public). He came up to me after his shift and asked me where the nearest nudie bar was, since I was "the only Man [he] knew in this town." and the dude was apparently desperate to see naked women. I told him that was hilariously inappropriate and also not really my scene. He insisted because I was clearly "that kind of guy" so I had to know.

I dutifully directed him to the nearest gay strip club, because at that point gently caress him.

less than three
Aug 9, 2007



Fallen Rib
Ticket title: Screen shot: attn David
Body: nothing except a screenshot of some app throwing an error.

We have 4000 employees, lack of info aside could you at least specify which of the dozen Davids you're trying to get this to. Should probably be going to a team anyways, not one guy. :argh:

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Ticket title: ADOBE

Category: Software

Impact: Global
Urgency: Critical
Priority: 1

Short Description: ADOBE

Description:
I need to open ADOBE files for Digital Signature
I get error that ADOBE needs to be reloaded
I can open in Viewer or EDGE but not in FULL ADOBE PACKAGE
PLEASE reload ADOBE for This Computer

*attached screenshot of a generic Adobe PDF error, cropped to the size of the error box*

(no provided location, or computer name)

orange juche fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Jul 17, 2020

Geemer
Nov 4, 2010



I'm enjoying teaching colleagues enough about computer to be dangerous and then warning them to read the prompts -knowing full well they won't- before clicking anything way too much. :evilbuddy:

In my defense, that computer needed re-imaging anyway.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Sheep posted:

This is obviously an atypical experience but I did IT off the books in Japan for a stint; one time one of our new guys fubar'd a customer's machine at the colo and took them offline for a couple of days. As reparations the CEO and president took the client to China to bang prostitutes. They invited me but I declined as it'd involve imprompt PTO at my day job and, while I was in this job for the experience, I was not in it for that kind of experience. They both came back with STDs which were, luckily, treatable.

There was also some foreigner they had actually above the table working for them who they rendered homeless because he kept loving things up and they kept deducting his pay for it. At some point a couple of months after starting, he couldn't make rent and had to move out of Tokyo back to the bumfuck town he started in and went back to teaching English.

Working in Asia was weird as gently caress in general but this whole situation was double-weird.

That sounds like the ideal place to run rm -rf / just before you get into a taxi for the airport :stare:

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Arquinsiel posted:

That sounds like the ideal place to run rm -rf / just before you get into a taxi for the airport :stare:

I have a co-worker who used to (jokingly) threaten to delete all the AD users from an entire region on his way out the door. He had the perms to do so. Not entirely an idle threat.

He left of his own accord a year ago and our directory is untouched. I’m not mad that he didn’t create chaos as promised, but I’m a little sad about it. Godspeed you crazy diamond.

Also, sending love to Larches and her new gig!

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
Meh, undeleting a bunch of accounts can be done. You can rollback AD with a crowbar if need be.

You know what's evil? Push a GPO that deactivates all network interfaces.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Antigravitas posted:

You know what's evil? Push a GPO that deactivates all network interfaces.

I might get to do that in December for a whole OU. That OU being "Win7/XP machines without an upgrade path to Win10 but still run instruments". I'd like to remove Ipv4 and IPv6 entirely, but some of them need IPv4 to talk to the instruments.

As to why these still exist, let's look at two of my XP systems. They control baby MRI machines, and by "baby" I mean "minivan sized" that cost $2,000,000 new, 10 years ago. The software does not run on Windows 7 or 10 in any compatibility mode. The vendor does not have an upgrade path. Replacing these perfectly functional instruments would cost at least $5 million, plus however much Facilities would charge to demo enough drywall to get them out of the building.

So I need a long-term solution for WinXP machines because who the gently caress would approve that capex request ?

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Can they be run in a WinXP virtual machine?

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Is there any appetite for reverse engineering the software and writing something new? This old unsupported poo poo tends not to be very sophisticated.

(bearing in mind I work with medical approval software so I know how much of a pain it is to have it validated for FDA at the best of times)

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Jaded Burnout posted:

Is there any appetite for reverse engineering the software and writing something new? This old unsupported poo poo tends not to be very sophisticated.

I'd assume there would be regulatory hurdles making this difficult? Like the FDA probably has to approve it?

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Schadenboner posted:

I'd assume there would be regulatory hurdles making this difficult? Like the FDA probably has to approve it?

Sorry I put my edit in there after you replied :)

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
It just seems unlikely that the FDA and the device manufacturer would be cool with that?

Does GE Medical (or whomever) still service the devices when they break?

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Schadenboner posted:

It just seems unlikely that the FDA and the device manufacturer would be cool with that?

No idea. Have you lot passed right to repair yet?

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devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik

Schadenboner posted:

Does GE Medical (or whomever) still service the devices when they break?

Usually hospitals will just contract with GE or whatever to support their stuff.

There are also third-party biomedical engineering firms that hospitals contract with to support all of their devices that can support devices like that, but they still have relationships with the OEM for support if needed.

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