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gamer roomie is 41 posted:Lessons learned: if you need to write a long meandering essay on a message board to barely justify an expensive decision, the answer is no. (This is why I never asked for feedback as to whether I should get a doctorate)
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My concerns about pandemic hair and normal interview from home background/tech issues were very overblown. Had a lot of tech issues but he rescheduled once we got on the call (15 minutes of flailing on camera with no audio and 3 headsets that all worked during testing) so I'd have a chance to take a deep breath and interview well. Interviewers were both in tees so I was maybe a little overdressed but not terribly, which is kind of just me as a person. Fingers crossed that all the example stuff I learned from here is what they wanted to hear.
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Jul 20, 2020 21:24
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Great! Yeah, usually you want to be 1 or 2 steps more formal in an interview, and I'd say even that is dying these days.
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Jul 20, 2020 21:38
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Got a surprise interview with an Austrian logistics company tomorrow. I had an meeting with them scheduled for early March, but then the world ended and 4 months later they hit me up again. I’m amusing myself on what Terminator quote I should end the interview with and I think I’ve settled on, “now I know why you cry.” But more seriously they claim they’re looking for someone who can create IT training documentation so I have a big pile of sanitized training docs I’ve created for other companies. This method worked really well with another company I interviewed with in late February and I’m pretty sure I would have gotten that job if not for the world ending in March. So who knows.
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Jul 21, 2020 03:20
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Krispy Wafer posted:Got a surprise interview with an Austrian logistics company tomorrow. I had an meeting with them scheduled for early March, but then the world ended and 4 months later they hit me up again. I’m amusing myself on what Terminator quote I should end the interview with and I think I’ve settled on, “now I know why you cry.” COVID or not you're 95% better prepared than anyone else so you've already done all the groundwork. Hold off a bit on the quote though and don't force it
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Jul 21, 2020 05:07
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Krispy Wafer posted:Got a surprise interview with an Austrian logistics company tomorrow. I had an meeting with them scheduled for early March, but then the world ended and 4 months later they hit me up again. I’m amusing myself on what Terminator quote I should end the interview with and I think I’ve settled on, “now I know why you cry.”
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Jul 21, 2020 12:32
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It went well. Decided against any Terminator jokes. They interviewed 18 people and I’m the last person. They pushed back the interview schedule for me because I was out of town last week. So everything looks good. Nothing may come of it, but I figure any opportunity to interview is a good opportunity. They also remarked they got some really over qualified applicants in the current job market, but in a way that implied they didn’t want overqualified applicants. I’m definitely not overqualified so fingers crossed!!!
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Jul 21, 2020 15:45
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Nice, having the sanitized docs is a great idea. That's the best way to interview.
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Jul 21, 2020 17:33
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How appropriate is it to ask why the position is open / why the last person left? I've got a few interviews coming up and the #1 thing I'm trying to feel out is work/life balance and on-call policy, this for an IT networking position. My job is super stressful right now mostly due to our horrible on-call rotation. I dont want to take a paycut but I would make a lateral move for a better on-call rotation, and not getting calls all night on any random day of the week.
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Jul 27, 2020 02:27
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BaseballPCHiker posted:How appropriate is it to ask why the position is open / why the last person left?
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Jul 27, 2020 02:44
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Dik Hz posted:It's a perfectly fine question, but don't expect any useful answer in response. Agreed. There are only a few useful answers you might hear and they’ll only be ones that paint the company in a positive light. E.g. we’re growing so rapidly and need you to be a vital part of our success!!!!!!! And decent chance they’re lying.
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Jul 27, 2020 02:49
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A more constructive question to ask might be "what were the things that made the person previously in this role successful?" Every time I've asked this question in an interview it's been received positively and I've gotten some good feedback about the sorts of traits I have that might align with the role, or otherwise reasons it's not a good fit for me.
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Jul 27, 2020 03:48
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Thanks for the responses. I'll be sure to ask the "what were the things that made the person previously in this role successful?" question and still try to get as much insight as I can into their on-call policy.
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Jul 27, 2020 14:16
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It's also perfectly ok to ask something like "What is your on-call policy and how often are after hours work needed?". If that makes them mad enough to not want to consider you, that job is not a fit based on what you want.
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Jul 27, 2020 15:17
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Lockback posted:It's also perfectly ok to ask something like "What is your on-call policy and how often are after hours work needed?". If that makes them mad enough to not want to consider you, that job is not a fit based on what you want. Just be sure to mentally add about 60% onto whatever heroically underestimated picture of after-hours requirements they give you. To be perhaps over-rudely blunt about it though, I'm not sure your chosen field is a great fit for you if being regularly required to work off-hours with no warning is a big problem? poo poo breaks. Especially technological poo poo that was bought and installed under the three primary criteria of cheap, cheap, and cheap, as is usually the case in the corporate world. I'm actually curious, if you're willing to divulge a bit, as to what exactly it is about your current job's on-call setup that's particularly onerous. Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Jul 27, 2020 |
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Jul 27, 2020 15:31
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They're going to ask you why you're leaving your current gig too. I made clear it was because of the work schedule. If the prospective employer marks me off the list because they know they're no better then they're doing both of us a favor.
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EDITED.
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Jul 27, 2020 16:17
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Yeah, asking about policies is fine, as is asking about comp time, etc. Again, some places might cross you off the list right then. That should be fine. As an example, my engineering team IS the "poo poo's on fire, yo" team. We get called nearly every time stuff breaks, its part of the job (and I make it clear to candidates about that). HOWEVER, I also have people who can at least triage poo poo in office just about 24x7 across 3 regions, I give multiplicative comp time when called after hours, and (the best part) myself and my managers who work for me are part of the rotation. So when poo poo gets bad, we 100% know and look to change it ASAP. With backups the rotations can be as often as every 4 or 5 weeks but we put a ton of work into make off-hour calls as rare as can be, and the comp time is good enough that there's always volunteers to take shifts if you are going out of town or whatever. So yeah, there are good ways to do it where your work/life doesn't get royally screwed.
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Jul 27, 2020 18:36
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Yeah salaried on-call IT support without even comp time is amazingly bad, that company must be horrendous.
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Jul 27, 2020 21:13
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lol today a friend of mine was interviewing for a promotion at the national financial institution where he works, and apparently the interviewer opened with "I was shocked to see you apply for this role" Yes he's already applied to a bunch of places outside of his current employer, don't worry.
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Jul 28, 2020 04:45
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in like, a good way? 
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Jul 28, 2020 12:54
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"How's your search going? Have you had any interviews?" "I've sent off my resume to a few places, had some phone conversations, etc" "Where?" "Some billing specialist role in the city.. And some others." "What companies?" "Oh, I can't remember the names offhand. But no formal interviews yet." "What were the companies though?" "Oh no worries, I'll make sure that if you present any role to me, I'll check and make sure that they're not getting my resume from two agencies." "I ask for names for your benefit. Can you get those over to me?"
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Jul 30, 2020 19:29
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Moneyball posted:"How's your search going? Have you had any interviews?" Was that from a recruiter?
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Jul 30, 2020 19:34
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Recruiting agency, not an internal recruiter for a company. I could understand why an internal recruiter asking might be different.
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Jul 30, 2020 19:37
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Moneyball posted:"How's your search going? Have you had any interviews?" Robert Half is a front for laundering drug money, and nobody can convince me otherwise.
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Jul 30, 2020 19:44
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It must be interesting to get messages from recruiters that are not Spam from hacked recruiter accounts (I am not bitter, I know I am not in any fields that lend themselves to recruiters)
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Jul 30, 2020 20:24
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It just occurred to me that if I removed my work history prior to my degree, I could possibly come across on my resume as about ten years younger than my actual age because I didn't start university until I was 29. I'm now almost 40 and like everyone else who is job hunting right now, it's a challenge getting a callback for anything. If people assumed that I started university straight out of school, and was a decade younger than my assumed age could it be of any benefit?
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Jul 31, 2020 03:43
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I did exactly that
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Jul 31, 2020 04:26
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bee posted:It just occurred to me that if I removed my work history prior to my degree, I could possibly come across on my resume as about ten years younger than my actual age because I didn't start university until I was 29. I'm now almost 40 and like everyone else who is job hunting right now, it's a challenge getting a callback for anything. Yes, unless there prior work is at all relevant. "Almost 40" isn't really that old for most places but it's not out of the question you night get some unconscious bias.
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Jul 31, 2020 05:14
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Moneyball posted:"How's your search going? Have you had any interviews?" If that's how you responded, that's good. gently caress that scum. That being said, if I need a job I have a second sanitized (removed all personal info aside from my name and state, altered job titles and generic company names; work history and experience otherwise accurate) resume I have on hand to use to fire back at those headhunter types just in case I really really do need a job.
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Jul 31, 2020 05:27
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bee posted:It just occurred to me that if I removed my work history prior to my degree, I could possibly come across on my resume as about ten years younger than my actual age because I didn't start university until I was 29. I'm now almost 40 and like everyone else who is job hunting right now, it's a challenge getting a callback for anything. List your work history and then your education, because the former is going to matter a lot more whereas the latter is going to be checking a box for almost anything you're applying to. e: good tip is to insert a separator of some sort (you can use the Word function of inserting a line object, for instance) which will visually delineate work history. If someone notices it, it gives you the opportunity to insert personal anecdotes in conversation about how you were working and then went back to school to better your skills, etc. If someone doesn't notice, then it still gives a linear impression of work history and experience. caveat that this doesn't work at all if you're submitting things through automated systems (loving taleo) e2: if this is a technical or academic field, put the educational history up front instead. same effect but better flow. HiroProtagonist fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Jul 31, 2020 |
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Jul 31, 2020 05:29
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Already done, cheers  I'm not looking for work in academia or a technical field. Upon consideration, my work history prior to studying isn't anything that I haven't duplicated in roles I've worked in since I graduated. Also it's like 15 years old so I think I'll edit it out and see if it makes any difference.
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Jul 31, 2020 06:37
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HiroProtagonist posted:e2: if this is a technical or academic field, put the educational history up front instead. same effect but better flow. And just to piggyback, if you're new and have a technical degree (especially comp sci) having that up front will help a lot. As you get experienced it matters less, but I hire a lot of new engineers and knowing upfront if someone has a bachelors vs a boot camp vs whatever helps frame the resume, and a bachelor's will frame it the best for you. Of course, like you said, depends on flow on how your resume looks.
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HiroProtagonist posted:If that's how you responded, that's good. I was paraphrasing from the exact wording, but it was basically the same. It's funny how protective certain recruiters are about the companies they are working with, while at the same time, trying to poach leads from candidates. This one in particular actually did get me brought on somewhere, and I was the one who messed it up. But he's been otherwise obnoxious to deal with. My experiences over the years have made me thankful to good recruiters, indifferent to okay recruiters, and vocal to terrible ones. I actually just got a call from PSG that interrupted me from writing this. They are the worst agency I have ever dealt with and to this day are actually the only one that I refuse to work with. But I still get calls and emails periodically saying they found my resume on some site. Robert Half gets a bad rap, and rightfully so, but I'll even still work with them.
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Jul 31, 2020 16:34
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Hoping I didn't shoot myself in the foot by emailing a question/concern I have with a position I've been interviewing for. I may have severely underestimated and undervalued my technical skillsets before applying to this role -- thanks current employer -- and am realizing that this may be a step backwards instead of a lateral move after a peer interview.
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Jul 31, 2020 17:05
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ScamWhaleHolyGrail posted:Hoping I didn't shoot myself in the foot by emailing a question/concern I have with a position I've been interviewing for. I may have severely underestimated and undervalued my technical skillsets before applying to this role -- thanks current employer -- and am realizing that this may be a step backwards instead of a lateral move after a peer interview. Doubtful you shot yourself in the foot, good questions that show interest in the job are rarely considered a bad thing.What are your concerns?
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Jul 31, 2020 17:47
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It sounds like the OP is concerned that the job is not actually what they are looking for, which is kind of a different question than "did i tank my interview by sending an email"
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Jul 31, 2020 18:56
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Lockback posted:Doubtful you shot yourself in the foot, good questions that show interest in the job are rarely considered a bad thing.What are your concerns? I applied for role X (a less technical, more communications based position) and have had several rounds of interviews. In my peer interview, maybe just because of who was assigned, it seems further away from the code-writing-side than expected. There is also role Y in the department that is fully in the world of automation writing and management but only has a senior position open. My current position is a hybrid between the two, but I would probably not be ready for the senior version of role Y (different coding languages, newer tech demands, etc). I asked if there would be an opportunity to use the skills in role X. I also asked in a longer term sense how the department works with career pathing for employees in role X. I did reiterate that I'm still interested in role X and the department in the email in hopes that does quell fears of me being a flight risk. Assuming salary is not an issue (not likely), I am given the offer (they seem to like me) and that there is long term progression to role Y available, I would very much enjoy taking role X. Update: boy do I have egg on my face. They responded that the role I've spent a month interviewing for and misunderstanding does not have opportunities to work with that technical skillsets and that there is not typically a path to move to the role since they've found that specialization works better for them. But was encouraged to reapply for the role I do want as there are "___ roles available at this time" so I guess it's time to practice up and get ready for technical interviews. ScamWhaleHolyGrail fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Jul 31, 2020 |
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Jul 31, 2020 19:32
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I just landed a final interview round for a non-tech IC role at a relatively large silicon valley place. I'm psyched but also nervous given it's a huge deal to me. I'm pretty sure they're behavioral / STAR based questions. Some questions: - is there a place that provides a good idea of questions for non tech roles? I've been trying to look for FAANG style company interview questions, but they're all coding type questions. - what's a good way to answer "how to advocate for a commitment that you have as a high priority but is not a high priority for someone else?" I'll have to calm my nerves beforehand for this.
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ScamWhaleHolyGrail posted:I applied for role X (a less technical, more communications based position) and have had several rounds of interviews. In my peer interview, maybe just because of who was assigned, it seems further away from the code-writing-side than expected. There is also role Y in the department that is fully in the world of automation writing and management but only has a senior position open. My current position is a hybrid between the two, but I would probably not be ready for the senior version of role Y (different coding languages, newer tech demands, etc). That was a good answer from them. With few exceptions, once you leave the technical side you really don't go back. If you don't want to be a delivery manager/scrum manager/whatever they are pegging you in, you shouldn't make the jump.
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