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So this is obviously on the beginner or whatever end of board games, but how do releases work for things I expect to sell out? Usually, with electronics and stuff, there's a preorder or ever a midnight party if people are super desperate, but I don't imagine any of those things exist for board games. Is it just "they're so niche, they probably won't sell out" or more "just go to the store right when it opens on 'launch day'"?
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LODGE NORTH posted:So this is obviously on the beginner or whatever end of board games, but how do releases work for things I expect to sell out? Usually, with electronics and stuff, there's a preorder or ever a midnight party if people are super desperate, but I don't imagine any of those things exist for board games. You should be able to preorder from your local store or an online one. Board games are more annoying than anything else when they sell out because it can take months for a extra copies to come around, and sometimes it's even worse because that single print run can be it for years. Got your eye on something in particular?
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CaptainApathyUK posted:You should be able to preorder from your local store or an online one. Board games are more annoying than anything else when they sell out because it can take months for a extra copies to come around, and sometimes it's even worse because that single print run can be it for years. Yup! Nintendo tweeted about new anniversary Monopoly and Jenga games and I figured since I'm building a board game collection now anyway, why not? https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1283831264525647874
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Jul 16, 2020 21:14
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Hasbro properties I doubt you would need to worry about scarcity. You will probably be fine.
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Mayveena posted:Swan Panasia doesn't appear to have sizes that match FFG, or at least FFG's Standard European size of 62x94 is not matched on their website. Does anyone have a link to BGGs card sleeve geeklist? Not sleeveyourgame as all they do is copy BGG's list. FFG Standard Europeans are 59x92. Swan do 100 60x92s for $3.95. The only FFG size that Swan don't match to within 1mm is Mini American (Yellow), which are 41x63 and the closest equivalent is 43x65. (E: apparently Swan measure by the size of the sleeve while FFG measure by the size of the card it fits. So 43x65 should be a much closer fit than you'd think.) The sleeve size list is here. Jedit fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Jul 16, 2020 |
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Jul 16, 2020 22:44
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Re: Sleeves chat, I'm still a really big fan of Docsmagic premium sleeves - there might be cheaper options in the US, but certainly here in NZ and I would presume in most of the EU, they're one of the most affordable options and the ones I've had have been consistently good quality. We were lucky enough to be able to have a local gaming con last weekend so I got to play a bunch of stuff. Cthulhu Death May Die continues to be far more enjoyable than I would have anticipated, and delivers exactly what I want out of a dice-chucking combat game. It amazes me seeing how the systems work so well herethat more co-op games fail to get the power-ramp and sense of player agency correct. One of the hosts from SVWAG talks about it as a 'bias towards action' - as in, the game system should always be providing players the options to do more rather than less, and any penalties the players experience should not impede/bog down their ability to do stuff, and I think CDMD is one of the best examples of this (Spirit Island being another). Every game plays really rapidly, and as the game goes on your character is able to do more and more ridiculous stuff until they go down in a blaze of glory. It's fantastic. Compared to Nemesis which I also played not long ago and would never touch again, I feel like it's at the complete other end of the spectrum. Where Nemesis creates difficulty by slowing you down, making it difficult to find what you need, wearing you down through attrition, CDMD puts all the information out front and gives you increasingly powerful tools to deal with it. Divinity Derby I wish I got to play more, every time we get it out it's a good time and it creates a ton of fun player interaction. I feel like this is a much better race/bidding game than Camel/Amel/Up/Cup Barrage is still my favourite mid-heavy Euro of the last few years. It has some of the best agonising decisions that I only really experience quite as intensely in Brass and Terra Mystica, and I continue to feel stupid playing it even though I have a blast and often end up doing better than I expect. Cartographers I played for the first time, and it was fine. Other than in AFfO I don't really enjoy the polyomino puzzle, and like most roll-and-writes I just didn't care what anyone else was doing. The only R&W I consistently enjoy remains the Clever games, mostly cos I actually feel interested in other players' turns. Campaign Trail I'd previously only played in two-player co-op mode to learn the rules, and I was intrigued by the systems but didn't really enjoy that game. This time, we played it 4 player with three parties and had a blast. Campaign Trail is an area majority game replicating the US election process, where your goal is (unsurprisingly) to have your party leader elected president by winning enough electoral college votes. This is done through an area majority game of trying to control each of the various states, each of which is worth wildly different numbers of votes. The main mechanic is really simple and reminiscent of Brass - you play a card (or two if you're the only player representing your party) and take an action, which can be to add more registered voters to your supply, raise funds, spend funds to campaign in a particular area to place registered voters on the map, or spend funds to advertise on particular issues to place registered voters more diversely on the map depending on different issues that different states care about (e.g healthcare, immigration etc), to move your candidate around the map, or to take a special action on the card. A third, and then two thirds of the way through the game there is also a 'debate' phase, where cards that you haven't played during the regular game phase are used to move influence markers on a track relating to specific issues, which if you do well enough against the other players allows you to place even more voters on the map. The whole game flows incredibly smoothly, and particularly in a three-party game has a lot of very entertaining jockeying for position. In our game, two parties opted for investing heavily in key states (most notably Texas and California) while the third party took a more scattergun approach, putting voters all over the map with the aim of swinging a large number of the smaller states. The debate stage is particularly fun, and while your candidates have to play cards that match the topics under discussion if that card also has icons of another topic, you're allowed to introduce that topic into the debate as well which led to our second debate getting derailed onto totally unrelated topics. In terms of the actual parties, the game takes a very apolitical position - there are three parties you can play with, Republicans, Democrats and Libertarians, and while the starting states for each party align as far as I know (well, for Democrats and Republicans that is) with states that are typically won by that party, there is no other sense of flavour for any of the parties. When you are campaigning on or debating on, for example, reproductive rights there is no indication that your party is for or against that issue. Mechanically, you are simply advocating for your party's position on that topic. I think this game might have been kickstarter only which is a shame, as it's a unique and very solid area majority game and one of very few that is designed to allow team play and odd player counts in a very simple way.
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Jul 16, 2020 23:44
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That Super Mario Jenga has honestly always looked super intriguing to me.
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Jul 16, 2020 23:50
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I've been using Ryker clear sleeves for board games and they're not bad. Little glossy on the front but the back matte is nice.
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Z-Man Games Announced today that the next edition of Pandemic: Legacy is going to be Pandemic: Legacy Season 0.quote:1962. The thick of the Cold War. You and your fellow medical graduates have been recruited into the CIA for an urgent mission: to investigate a dangerous new Soviet bioweapon. I’m stoked! My wife has I loved seasons 1 and 2, the latter of which we played through during the darkest part of quarantine.
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Jul 17, 2020 01:38
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At least get Mario Kart Monopoly so you get those sweet cars for Downforce or other racing games 
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Jul 17, 2020 02:38
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Man, Teotihuacan is oh so nice on boardgamearena with the computer doing all the setup and upkeep. I still remember the player aid posted a long time ago which was 100% "remember to do these things in this order on your turn" and 0% related to gameplay 
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Jul 17, 2020 05:16
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Arcane tinmen should still be making the usual board game sleeve sizes. I've used them before and they're just as good as FFG sleeves. They're the same company that makes dragon shields which are poker size.LODGE NORTH posted:So this is obviously on the beginner or whatever end of board games, but how do releases work for things I expect to sell out? Usually, with electronics and stuff, there's a preorder or ever a midnight party if people are super desperate, but I don't imagine any of those things exist for board games. Don't worry about things selling out unless it's from a smaller publisher that make popular games like Splotter or if it's an extremely hyped game. I just missed out on getting a little card game called spicy and I'm just hoping an LGS is carrying it. Chill la Chill fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Jul 17, 2020 |
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Jul 17, 2020 18:43
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My wife is a fan of Euro style games where it's more about the puzzle and much much less about competing with the other person. Agricola is right up her alley where you can brush against your opponent but it's mostly just a single-player puzzle where you might bump elbows with someone. I saw some similar games recommended and two of the best ones suggested with Concordia and Targi. Both look good, can anyone recommend if they'd be good for someone with this style of game in mind?
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Jul 17, 2020 21:01
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Tom Tucker posted:My wife is a fan of Euro style games where it's more about the puzzle and much much less about competing with the other person. Agricola is right up her alley where you can brush against your opponent but it's mostly just a single-player puzzle where you might bump elbows with someone. I saw some similar games recommended and two of the best ones suggested with Concordia and Targi. Both look good, can anyone recommend if they'd be good for someone with this style of game in mind? FEAST FOR ODIN w/ NORWEGIANS. Honestly, any Rosenberg game could be the answer to this question for you but the words "puzzle" and "bumping elbows" just made me say that this is the one.
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Jul 17, 2020 21:12
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Tom Tucker posted:My wife is a fan of Euro style games where it's more about the puzzle and much much less about competing with the other person. Agricola is right up her alley where you can brush against your opponent but it's mostly just a single-player puzzle where you might bump elbows with someone. I saw some similar games recommended and two of the best ones suggested with Concordia and Targi. Both look good, can anyone recommend if they'd be good for someone with this style of game in mind? I have not played Targi, but I believe it is not terribly 'single player', which makes some sense considering it only plays exactly 2. I believe that generally when you take moves, you are blocking your opponent from taking them. Hopefully another goon can give more detail on that. On the other hand, I have played a fair bit of Concordia and I would recommend it to almost anyone entrenched in board games enough to use the word 'Euro". It is a network building game, but unlike some games like Power Grid or Catan, when someone takes a city first, all it does it make the next player's building slightly more expensive. Building in that region and neighboring regions is still possible and sometimes encouraged by the ways players generate resources. You can occasionally mess with your opponents very lightly: building somewhere first, buying something first, occupying the exact space on a road someone needs (you can move through them but not stop on the same road). Concordia is also absolutely excellent in its own right. One other bonus to consider when making your financial decision: Concordia is incredibly popular, so even if your wife ends up not liking it, your other gaming friends might, and it plays up to 5. (There is a version called Concordia Venus that has a Standalone that plays up to 6 and an Expansion version that adds the 6th player to the base game.) edit: I kinda got concerned I'd be misunderstood here. Like, as far as I know, Targi is also totally great, and I look forward to playing it. I don't want to minimize that game, especially having not yet tried it. I just think that Concordia owns and is what the doctor ordered here. Magnetic North fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Jul 17, 2020 |
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Jul 17, 2020 21:21
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Chill la Chill posted:Arcane tinmen should still be making the usual board game sleeve sizes. I've used them before and they're just as good as FFG sleeves. They're the same company that makes dragon shields which are poker size. This game? https://www.atomicempire.com/Item/278318
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Tom Tucker posted:My wife is a fan of Euro style games where it's more about the puzzle and much much less about competing with the other person. Agricola is right up her alley where you can brush against your opponent but it's mostly just a single-player puzzle where you might bump elbows with someone. I saw some similar games recommended and two of the best ones suggested with Concordia and Targi. Both look good, can anyone recommend if they'd be good for someone with this style of game in mind?
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Jul 17, 2020 21:54
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Tom Tucker posted:My wife is a fan of Euro style games where it's more about the puzzle and much much less about competing with the other person. Agricola is right up her alley where you can brush against your opponent but it's mostly just a single-player puzzle where you might bump elbows with someone. I saw some similar games recommended and two of the best ones suggested with Concordia and Targi. Both look good, can anyone recommend if they'd be good for someone with this style of game in mind? Take a look at Fields of Arle also from Uwe Rosenberg. It's a 2 player worker placement game, and really the only conflict is if the other person takes the action you wanted. Multiple ways to go to get points which means you may not even be competing for the same actions anyway. My Wife and I have really enjoyed it.
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Jul 17, 2020 22:45
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Tom Tucker posted:My wife is a fan of Euro style games where it's more about the puzzle and much much less about competing with the other person. Agricola is right up her alley where you can brush against your opponent but it's mostly just a single-player puzzle where you might bump elbows with someone. I saw some similar games recommended and two of the best ones suggested with Concordia and Targi. Both look good, can anyone recommend if they'd be good for someone with this style of game in mind? I think Targi will be fine. Competitive players would not consider Agricola to match your description (you can be really mean in 2p) but it's certainly common to play that way too. In Targi you _will_ bump elbows as each placement blocks multiple locations, but you can very much just optimize for the current turn and play a relaxed style if that's how you play those games together.
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Yeah Targi would be my top rec for that criteria and 2p. Concordia is great too but doesn’t feel too puzzly unless you mean maximizing action efficiency but that’s a keystone of euros in general. Targi has a few layers of spatial puzzle on top of resource management.
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Jul 17, 2020 23:26
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Sweet thanks folks. I grabbed both so something to look forward to. I looked at feast for Odin as well but it looked a little too long - we generally don’t have energy for Agricola after the kid goes to sleep hopefully these will be just a bit less complicated.
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I love Fields of Arle. Definitely my fav 2p euro. Bear in mind Concordia 2p plays best with the Creta or Corsica expansion maps.
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Jul 18, 2020 04:13
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I don't know if it was common knowledge, but Root is coming to digital: https://store.steampowered.com/app/965580/Root/
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Jul 18, 2020 06:26
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Followed by Mage Knight from the same company hopefully shortly. Don't expect either to have expansion content on release though.
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Jul 18, 2020 06:35
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GrandpaPants posted:I don't know if it was common knowledge, but Root is coming to digital: https://store.steampowered.com/app/965580/Root/ The part of this that's kind of a bummer is the 3d cel shaded art. Looks more like the Chinese bootleg version of Root. Leder and Wehrle have promoted their games on TTS, so hopefully they'll continue to do so after this launches. There's a good semiscripted version with all the expansions.
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CaptainRightful posted:The part of this that's kind of a bummer is the 3d cel shaded art. Looks more like the Chinese bootleg version of Root. Leder and Wehrle have promoted their games on TTS, so hopefully they'll continue to do so after this launches. There's a good semiscripted version with all the expansions. I have to imagine they will since people make things like fan made expansions on it too, and they've always been super positive about it in general. I'd be happy to get a version that automates some stuff, but the TTS mod can't be replaced at this point.
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Jul 18, 2020 16:44
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Is there a board game storage option that isn’t some cheap IKEA garbage? I need to store about 30 games. Was looking at this but haven’t heard anything about it: https://storemyboardgames.com/collections/complete2 Looking to spend less than $1000
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Jul 18, 2020 18:03
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Box Throne is garbage. A friend has a small one and it’s already sagging after a year or so. I would avoid any hobby specific shelves and just buy quality shelving with similar dimensions to IKEA Kallax.
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PRADA SLUT posted:Is there a board game storage option that isn’t some cheap IKEA garbage? Kallaxes aren't garbage, they're the go-to for a reason. If you don't like the look then fine, but then pretty much any decent bookshelf with good depth will do you.
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PRADA SLUT posted:Is there a board game storage option that isn’t some cheap IKEA garbage? I would advise against dismissing the Ikea kallax shelves, they are extremely cool and good. I myself avoided them for the longest time before picking up the 5x5 on sale for use as a room divider shelving unit, and I was definitely impressed with how sturdy they are. You will pay a lot more and get a lot less if you buy those box throne things.
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CaptainRightful posted:The part of this that's kind of a bummer is the 3d cel shaded art. Looks more like the Chinese bootleg version of Root. Leder and Wehrle have promoted their games on TTS, so hopefully they'll continue to do so after this launches. There's a good semiscripted version with all the expansions. Yeah there was a great opportunity to go for little animated cutscenes like Advance Wars or a visual style like Paper Mario that mixes 2D and 3D, and just use the iconic meeple for the zoomed out map- but alas 
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There’s nothing wrong with IKEA, you cannot beat the value of KALLAX for storing board games without looking like poo poo. Is it heirloom furniture? nah, but it doesn’t have to be.
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PRADA SLUT posted:Is there a board game storage option that isn’t some cheap IKEA garbage? With Ikea, you might be able to find something ok, but over time there could be issues with the joins and backing. But $1000 is a big budget. Maybe find a local woodworker? If there are lumber mills / stores in your area, they might be able to recommend a few. Whatever you get, based on shape and weight, think about whether you need to secure it to the wall.
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I just use my heirloom furniture.
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In a world where IKEA/similar doesn’t exist, what are the alternatives?
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CaptainRightful posted:The part of this that's kind of a bummer is the 3d cel shaded art. Looks more like the Chinese bootleg version of Root. Leder and Wehrle have promoted their games on TTS, so hopefully they'll continue to do so after this launches. There's a good semiscripted version with all the expansions. Seriously, I don’t understand why every board game app developer needs to create their own assets. Root’s popular in large part because of Kyle Ferrin’s art. Just use it, adapt it where you need to, and save a ton of time and money. Fury of Dracula is getting an app as well and it’s the same story, lovely 3D models that just serve to make it look worse.
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PRADA SLUT posted:In a world where IKEA/similar doesn’t exist, what are the alternatives? Like, furniture makers? Browse Wayfair and similar sites and look for solid wood and or metal construction, stay away from anything composite, and find something that suits your taste and space needs.
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Tom Tucker posted:My wife is a fan of Euro style games where it's more about the puzzle and much much less about competing with the other person. Agricola is right up her alley where you can brush against your opponent but it's mostly just a single-player puzzle where you might bump elbows with someone. I saw some similar games recommended and two of the best ones suggested with Concordia and Targi. Both look good, can anyone recommend if they'd be good for someone with this style of game in mind? Concordia from the two you've listed. If she really likes the puzzle nature of euros and seeing effects percolate from gears upon gears of effects, look into Lacerda's games. Thanks,that's exactly it. I've been fawning over that art.
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the Root digital version should look like the GBA fire emblem games
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I don't know if you can expect to store something as complex and specialized as board game boxes for under $1,000.
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