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I'll call Belgians whatever I want. Who's going to stop me? The non-existent federal government? The Flemish government full of lecherous window climbers? 
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Phlegmish posted:I'll call Belgians whatever I want. Who's going to stop me? The non-existent federal government? The Flemish government full of lecherous window climbers? In defence of Crevits and Somers, it was high time the Flemish government defenestrated itself.
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Jul 18, 2020 17:43
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Beer breweries, chocolatiers, and child murderers - a land of contrasts
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ITT: Lots of gratuitous use of the word Belgium - must be a screenplay.
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Jul 18, 2020 18:14
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we can't be talking about 'cricket' all the drat time.
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Jul 18, 2020 23:00
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I refuse to believe people were discussing cricket even as a joke
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Jul 18, 2020 23:05
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thankfully this thread isn't that barbaric.
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Angry Lobster posted:Belgium seems like a fun place. You do not under any circumstances gotta hand it to them.
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Bobby Digital posted:You do not under any circumstances gotta hand it to them. That's not Belgium, that's just their king.
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Phlegmish posted:I refuse to believe people were discussing cricket even as a joke How else could you? 
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Angry Lobster posted:Belgium seems like a fun place. Baudelaire would say no.
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Cat Mattress posted:That's not Belgium, that's just their king. JFC
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What's up with those Belgian chocolates that look like sea shells - they sell them a the loving hardware store in one-kilogram boxes lmao?
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3D Megadoodoo posted:What's up with those Belgian chocolates that look like sea shells - they sell them a the loving hardware store in one-kilogram boxes lmao? They decided to make their chocolates in the shape of seashells, inspired by the Belgium coast, a popular holiday destination, thinking they would make the perfect souvenir for their visit. Belgium pralines are delicious.
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Mierenneuker posted:They decided to make their chocolates in the shape of seashells, inspired by the Belgium coast, a popular holiday destination, thinking they would make the perfect souvenir for their visit. Estonia should get on this and start making chocolate in the shape of tentacles for the Finnish tourists.
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Jul 19, 2020 11:41
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So the summit on the recovery fund is in the shits, right?
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Dawncloack posted:So the summit on the recovery fund is in the shits, right? The austerity assholes seem to be winning, so yes.
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Jul 19, 2020 12:01
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hyper-fascism across the continent it is then
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Venomous posted:hyper-fascism across the continent it is then Our previous ineffective Prime Minister is now president of the European Council. It's always the fault of us Belgians in the end.
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Jul 19, 2020 12:20
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Dawncloack posted:So the summit on the recovery fund is in the shits, right? Dutch prime minister is very smugly reporting that no agreement is in sight and no progress is being made.
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Jul 19, 2020 12:21
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Orange Devil posted:Dutch prime minister is very smugly reporting that no agreement is in sight and no progress is being made. Every year he's in office i discover that no, there are further new and exciting ways for me to hate him and all he stands for.
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10 loving years of being PM now and another bunch as state secretary (kind of like deputy minister) of education before that and he is set to win another goddamn election next year. This rear end in a top hat has been important in politics for my entire adult life.
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Libluini posted:Man, the Süddeutsche is really starting to sound rather harsh. They report that the block around the Dutch is now called the "Miserly Four" and that Italy's premier said the Miserly Four are holding Europe hostage. Good gently caress the Dutch government. The only reason Rutte feels safe enough to do this now is because not enough of us died from COVID and he's going to coast to re-election because of it. He did what Trump tried and looked decisive enough while doing it.
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Pay no mind to the fact that Germany was leading this block for over a decade until like, 1,5 months ago?
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What a literary turn, creating the beast that then turns against you in your moment of need.
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Jul 19, 2020 15:27
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In Sweden I've seen the argument that it doesnt make sense for us non-EMU countries to lend and spend cash to support EMU countries when the ECB could just print arbitrary amounts of cash (like we are doing ourselves). Makes some sense but i get the feeling the problem is more meta-budget-related-issues in general.
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Threadkiller Dog posted:In Sweden I've seen the argument that it doesnt make sense for us non-EMU countries to lend and spend cash to support EMU countries when the ECB could just print arbitrary amounts of cash (like we are doing ourselves). As the euro crisis proved ECB loans are effectively loans in a foreign currency for EMU-countries. So sadly, no. The countries involved are already very dependent on the ECB subverting its own mandate and do not want to end up any further down that rabbit hole since they don't hold the keys to the printing press. Sweden still does, that's why we can do it. What would be the obvious answer could be to let the EU parliament to integrate further with the ECB and just deficit spend, like a normal nation-state would in this situation. But lol on that ever being allowed by Germany, Sweden, Denmark or the Netherlands. Orange Devil posted:Pay no mind to the fact that Germany was leading this block for over a decade until like, 1,5 months ago? You know everything is hosed up when even the Germans can see that there truly is no other option.
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It's sort of amazing that the entire Swedish parliament is united in opposition to the corona fund, left and right parties are all against it. Can't think of anything else they can all agree on.
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Fader Movitz posted:It's sort of amazing that the entire Swedish parliament is united in opposition to the corona fund, left and right parties are all against it. Can't think of anything else they can all agree on. Did the Liberal party change their mind?
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MiddleOne posted:Did the Liberal party change their mind? They still want the fund but from what I understood they want it to be loans or something
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An insane mind posted:Good gently caress the Dutch government. The only reason Rutte feels safe enough to do this now is because not enough of us died from COVID and he's going to coast to re-election because of it. He did what Trump tried and looked decisive enough while doing it. I don't know why the Dutch media are sucking Rutte off about his Covid handling. Excess mortality in the Netherlands was sky high and I haven't the feeling that the authorities did very much aside from talking about individual responsibility to stay healthy in a very serious tone
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Lord Stimperor posted:I don't know why the Dutch media are sucking Rutte off about his Covid handling. Excess mortality in the Netherlands was sky high and I haven't the feeling that the authorities did very much aside from talking about individual responsibility to stay healthy in a very serious tone i suspect that this is due to succeeding in the media management part of the disaster, which is not unrelated but is separate from the public health response. in yankeestan, you saw something similar with certain governors who were lauded even as they had to dig mass graves
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Lord Stimperor posted:I don't know why the Dutch media are sucking Rutte off about his Covid handling. Excess mortality in the Netherlands was sky high and I haven't the feeling that the authorities did very much aside from talking about individual responsibility to stay healthy in a very serious tone I honestly think it's because of the corona briefings he did where he sounded very learned and smart, and most of our newsoutlets (at least the ones on tv and with access) are more of the shitlib decorum, soft questions variety. Like, oh Rutte is so big strong and decisive on corona. Never mind that he said it's really not that bad (then cases surged), we need to stop shaking hands (then immediately turned around and shook hands) and then blamed everything on those god drat kids for not getting the message. But he said it in such a decisive way :O
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Its because the baseline is belgium, spain and italy.if your country is doing better, congrats you're a winner. (Ignores iceland and *checks notes* malta?) Edit:Lol theres no way poland is handling this better than norway. And san marino screwed again by small sample size prejudice.
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