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How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas

Roth posted:

I think the absurdity of still being trapped in the fridge is what does it for me.

It's a gruesome joke in the context of how women are generally treated in comics, but I can't help but laugh at it.

I think I would immediately switch around to finding it funny if the fridge were plugged in and the cord just stretched all the way back down to earth.

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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Roth posted:

I think the absurdity of still being trapped in the fridge is what does it for me.

It's a gruesome joke in the context of how women are generally treated in comics, but I can't help but laugh at it.

It's the origin of the phrase.

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

I think it was poorly timed in that that issue came out around when the Women in Refrigerators discourse was really picking up steam, and it was increasingly widely agreed that Kyle Rayner's girlfriend in a fridge was the nadir of sexist comics writing.

I personally think Blackest Night sucks all over, though. It's like a tawdry splatter sexploitation film, but with an ending where the zombies are defeated by a new Power Rangers toy.

BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand
Like I get that the imagery of violence against women can get really fetishized and disenfranchising, on the other hand it's a cosmic horror story about zombies that feed off heroes' emotions and also, it's really not like Green Lantern v3 Issue 54 is some grand text that needs to be protected against...I dunno, relentless lampooning. I also tend to give it a pass 'cuz that whole arc -- the whole event really, but specifically the GLC arc -- was about all the Lanterns facing their deceased loved ones with plenty of morbid imagery and gallows humor all around so it's not like Alex was singled out to be the butt of some joke.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Codependent Poster posted:

Green Lantern Corps was good when Tomassi wrote it. I remember when Soranik Natu was an interesting character and not evil just because she's Sinestro's daughter.

And actually being used.

I always remember the thing where the Violet Lantern showed Soranik and Kyle their true loves and Soranik sees Kyle and Kyle is like "Uh, yeah, I saw you too!" and it actually turns turns out it was Jade. Good job, Rayner.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
Remember the space gremlins and how they had given all of Green Lantern's earth based villains their powers and came back to experiment more and upgraded a couple?

I do wonder what Johns thought he was doing with that.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



Remember when Saint Walker was a member of the Justice League and did exactly nothing? Good times.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
I remember when they essentially brought every green lantern back from the dead when the corps was resurrected and Johns spent the next half decade or whatever systematically killing them off lol

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Yeah that was weird. Like "Hal is actually innocent and has no blood on his hands" and then they all died again.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
His JSA run ended up becoming that. I remember being so excited for all the new legacies and updates to old concepts and Johns kills them all in 6 issues

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
The absurd lengths Johns went to in order to make sure no one thought Hal was a bad guy anymore were really funny at the time because it always gave it this mad, desperate feeling of a guy trying to cover up a crime and made me think Hal was more guilty than ever.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


catlord posted:

I just accidentally read Multiversity from Pax Americana on and now I'm upset that Multiversity Too is still a no-show.

Where's my Sunshine Superman series DC.

Magic Lantern from Sunshine Superman’s universe is in Morrison’s Green Lantern and has some fun interactions with another universes Green Lantern Batman.

I really miss Multiversity, back when the multiverse made sense for a minute. Still have that map around somewhere.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Dan Didio posted:

The absurd lengths Johns went to in order to make sure no one thought Hal was a bad guy anymore were really funny at the time because it always gave it this mad, desperate feeling of a guy trying to cover up a crime and made me think Hal was more guilty than ever.

The sad part is Hal was atoning. I mean, that's why the Spectre. I'll never get Johns' slavish devotion to the Silver Age. I know he's not that old, did he just luck into reading them as a kid or something?

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

Dawgstar posted:

The sad part is Hal was atoning. I mean, that's why the Spectre. I'll never get Johns' slavish devotion to the Silver Age. I know he's not that old, did he just luck into reading them as a kid or something?

I think that's pretty much just it. He read them growing up for some reason or another and wanted to write them now he's old.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


See also: him writing in as a fan to suggest that maybe Lex Luthor was the origin of Superboy's human half, getting politely shut down, and then making it canon when he got to write the books.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



I am really wondering how many arms will get cut/ripped off during Three Jokers. Geoff Johns loves that move.

The Last Call
Sep 9, 2011

Rehabilitating sinner

Mr Hootington posted:

I remember when they essentially brought every green lantern back from the dead when the corps was resurrected and Johns spent the next half decade or whatever systematically killing them off lol

Brutally at that. It's funny how many people use to be upset all those GL's were killed in the past and cried about it but when Johns did it? Well it wasn't Hal killing them so it's okay!

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
I know in Kevin Smith's Green Arrow book he was brought back to life by Hal Jordan Spectre, but how did Ollie die in the first place?

Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

Skwirl posted:

I know in Kevin Smith's Green Arrow book he was brought back to life by Hal Jordan Spectre, but how did Ollie die in the first place?

He blew up in a plane I believe. Real low key stakes for a comic book character.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Keltar posted:

Brutally at that. It's funny how many people use to be upset all those GL's were killed in the past and cried about it but when Johns did it? Well it wasn't Hal killing them so it's okay!

Johns didn’t destroy the entire corps. What Green Lanterns did he even kill off?

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Lord_Hambrose posted:

I am really wondering how many arms will get cut/ripped off during Three Jokers. Geoff Johns loves that move.
Has Geoff Johns ever written for Marvel? He could have Spiral and 'morbius mutated Spidey' team up.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Open Marriage Night posted:

Johns didn’t destroy the entire corps. What Green Lanterns did he even kill off?

He took rings from a dozen or so Lanterns, fried Killowog and when he blew up the central power battery it was implied that many others died in action.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Nessus posted:

Has Geoff Johns ever written for Marvel? He could have Spiral and 'morbius mutated Spidey' team up.

Yeah, he wrote Avengers for awhile before Bendis and then the movies made people care about The Avengers.

If someone doesn't beat me to it I'll post "the panel" when I'm at a computer and not phone posting.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Don't.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
I remember when Ollie shot Evil Hal God at the end of Zero Hour.


Rhyno posted:

He took rings from a dozen or so Lanterns, fried Killowog and when he blew up the central power battery it was implied that many others died in action.
Whole lots ring slingers in low orbit got the ride of a lifetime when those shields and flight reserves ran out.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

You're not my dad.

Linked because it's mildly :nws:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_slzL0vHRjtY/SwKvQQABQeI/AAAAAAAABbA/OU6H6_hc0YI/s1600/tumblr_krudevvwU41qzm6hao1_1280.jpg

That's Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne, Ant-Man and the Wasp.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Skwirl posted:

You're not my dad.

Linked because it's mildly :nws:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_slzL0vHRjtY/SwKvQQABQeI/AAAAAAAABbA/OU6H6_hc0YI/s1600/tumblr_krudevvwU41qzm6hao1_1280.jpg

That's Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne, Ant-Man and the Wasp.
I see, I now know the true meaning of

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Skwirl posted:

Yeah, he wrote Avengers for awhile before Bendis and then the movies made people care about The Avengers.

If someone doesn't beat me to it I'll post "the panel" when I'm at a computer and not phone posting.

Didn't everyone at Marvel at the time basically admit that they knew Johns was just marking time till he got an in at DC?

Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Jul 19, 2020

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Yvonmukluk posted:

Didn't everyone at Marvel at the admit basically admit that they knew Johns was just marking time till he got an in at DC?

Maybe, but he took over Avengers from Busiek and wrote it for 2 years, then Austen had a short run then Bendis blew it the gently caress up and then rebuilt it by finally putting Marvel's two most popular characters on it.

It's really weird to remember how little most people, even comics people used to care about Iron-Man and Captain America.

Thranguy
Apr 21, 2010


Deceitful and black-hearted, perhaps we are. But we would never go against the Code. Well, perhaps for good reasons. But mostly never.

Jiro posted:

He blew up in a plane I believe. Real low key stakes for a comic book character.

It was Dark Knight Returns backstory re-enactment; his main arm was trapped in a box on that plane holding down a deadman switch or something with various contrivances to rule out any possible solution; Superman could have heat visioned the arm right off and saved him and everyone else, but Ollie was 'no thanks I'd rather die than end up in a supporting role in a Frank Miller story.'

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

Skwirl posted:

You're not my dad.

Linked because it's mildly :nws:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_slzL0vHRjtY/SwKvQQABQeI/AAAAAAAABbA/OU6H6_hc0YI/s1600/tumblr_krudevvwU41qzm6hao1_1280.jpg

That's Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne, Ant-Man and the Wasp.

this was the second comic i ever got as an 8 year old

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Smoking Crow posted:

this was the second comic i ever got as an 8 year old

It's so weird when mainstream comics do poo poo like this. Like that one year DCs only Free Comic Book Day comic with either Batman or Superman in it was a Future's End tie in where Superman has half his body missing and is grafted to a robot or whatever.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Skwirl posted:

You're not my dad.

Linked because it's mildly :nws:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_slzL0vHRjtY/SwKvQQABQeI/AAAAAAAABbA/OU6H6_hc0YI/s1600/tumblr_krudevvwU41qzm6hao1_1280.jpg

That's Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne, Ant-Man and the Wasp.

I still don't know what "your turn" is supposed to mean. And I don't think I want to know.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Codependent Poster posted:

I still don't know what "your turn" is supposed to mean. And I don't think I want to know.
I can see several possibilities, none of which are great to share with an eight year old.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Codependent Poster posted:

I still don't know what
He
shrunk down and was massaging her g-spot
or perhaps wrestling her clit


So obviously she

will have to grab her exosuit and play punching bag with his prostate

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Let's not be uncouth, she has the stingers.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Skwirl posted:

It's so weird when mainstream comics do poo poo like this. Like that one year DCs only Free Comic Book Day comic with either Batman or Superman in it was a Future's End tie in where Superman has half his body missing and is grafted to a robot or whatever.

And it also tries to be a 'fun' call back to that time that... Hank hit Jan. Like that's the weird cherry on top.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
Everyone remembers the vaginal spelunking sequence from Geoff Johns's brief run on the Avengers, but people don't talk enough about DELL RUSK, the second (of three times so far) that high ranking Nazi and German national Johann Schmidt aka the Red Skull manages to attain or control a cabinet level position in the United States Government.

He "forged a paper trail" but no one has ever met him prior to his Senate hearings, where he wore a skin mask so no one would know his face was a Red Skull. But just to be a stinker, he used the name Dell Rusk, which is an anagram for Red Skull. With such an impressive resume he got confirmed as Secretary of Defense, and then Dell Rusk diverted all money from AIDS research to spend years secretly forcing the CDC to develop a super flesh eating virus that would only kill black people.

But I guess "because deep down we're all the same" you can't make a bioweapon to kill only black people, so it would kill everyone. Then Red Skull tricked his AIM contractors into accidentally releasing it from the secret base under Mount Rushmore and killing a bunch of people, with the plan that as Secretary of Defense he'd "track down" the AIM terrorists to their "home country" Wakanda and order a nuclear strike on evil terrorist Wakanda and everyone would love Dell Rusk's bravery and leadership that he would get elected President so he could depopulate all of Africa.

But instead Falcon and Henry Gyrich spied on him using birds and tape recorders so he shot them and revealed himself as the Red Skull, but still thought maybe he could run for President until Falcon had him swarmed by angry birds and Black Panther punched his jaw off (with his bare fists, so Red Skull would know it was black skin that maimed/killed him.)

Then Black Panther cut up Red Skull and took his blood, which had the only cure for the bioweapon, and I guess shot all the dying Avengers full of it and then chemtrailed Red Skull blood over the whole country so no one else would die. Then President Bush apologized to the Avengers and appointed Carol Danvers head of Homeland Security and Henry Gyrich his chief of staff to make sure I guess the Red Skull doesn't some back as Les Durkl.

And then none of this is mentioned again because the following issue opens up with vaginal spelunking, and everyone just kind of moves on.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
:psyboom:

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Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

FilthyImp posted:

He
shrunk down and was massaging her g-spot
or perhaps wrestling her clit


So obviously she

will have to grab her exosuit and play punching bag with his prostate

I'm glad not every comic is depressing misery porn

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