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MMAgCh posted:The man's bibliography has its own article on Wikipedia. He's…prolific. Immanentized posted:Flects, and yeah they were cool in the sense that they were a mundane medium transformed to contain supernatural essences. Of course everyone used em to get high, but...  of "sometimes the wing looks back".
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a lovely king posted:Plus he already finished the Emperor's Spears sequel and has his Siege of Terra book that he may be underway with, but he'd no doubt be exterminatus'd if he breathed a word about that. I need that emperor's spear sequel badly
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MariusLecter posted:That and since it takes the 40K equivalent of mining bitcoin to produce a single syllable of Enuncia I can see how it's not something more known about. This is my favorite way to explain Enuncia.
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boredsatellite posted:I need that emperor's spear sequel badly I just listened to the audiobook and am currently screaming this as well. I don't mind BL's slower steadier release schedule from a business sense but from a reader sense I want it now.
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Immanentized posted:Flects, and yeah they were cool in the sense that they were a mundane medium transformed to contain supernatural essences. Of course everyone used em to get high, but... Extremely human.
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VanSandman posted:I just listened to the audiobook and am currently screaming this as well. Judging by what they just announced for August the release schedule is picking up, at least for the near future. Combination of no releases for a few months so they have a backlog and I bet a lot of authors got way more writing in than normal being stuck at home. This next year should be really good.
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euphronius posted:“It’s a chaos gateway drug” also makes sense Those were flects tho, the adminstratum building that got sent to the warp had thousands(?) of cogitators that got chaos/demon infused and also the glass windows of the building reflected and absorbed all kinds of warp shenanigans. So you got the chaos powered computers and also drugs. mllaneza posted:Enuncia and the... what were they called, fleets ? The chaos-infused bits of broken glass used like drugs... those are really solid ideas and help explain why the Ravenor series is as good as it is. Arquinsiel posted:I was thinking about Terry Pratchett's description of Octarine as "the colour you see when you smoke something illegal and take a really good look at a starling's wing" with the added And also sometimes your head explodes. But I think that was just when the elites did a big party viewing of large pieces of flect.
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D-Pad posted:. Combination of no releases for a few months so they have a backlog and I bet a lot of authors got way more writing in than normal being stuck at home. This next year should be really good. Turns out we were living in the best timeline all along.
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MariusLecter posted:That and since it takes the 40K equivalent of mining bitcoin to produce a single syllable of Enuncia I can see how it's not something more known about. What books this covered in? I know very little about it.
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Moose-Alini posted:What books this covered in? I know very little about it. The Magos, an Eisenhorn book.
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It was in one of the Ravenor books, I want to say the second one. I think it went something like this: They were taking massive amounts of cogitators from the hive world they were getting the flects from and using them to brute force Enuncia, because the cogitators being chaos tainted let them do it without burning out immediately. They’d realize they got a bite when one of the workers on the cogitators would spontaneously explode or grow tentacles or whatnot.
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The my favourite detail about the flects was they were never part of the plan, the rogue traders the Cognitae hired just got greedy and realized they could make some extra cash filling out the empty space in their holds with chaos glass drugs. It's extremely rogue tradery to come up with a side gig selling drugs to supplement your main job of looting demon computers from a hell planet.
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Moose-Alini posted:What books this covered in? I know very little about it. I remember it from the Ravenor omnibus but couldn't tell you if it was one of the main 3 stories or a short story. I seem to remember it being part of the overall plot and Patience goes under cover as a (horrible, horrible, grimdark) office worker to find out what is going on.
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It's book 2, and it's a critical part of the book 2 plot.
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Abnett still has it. The massed White Scars jet bike charge in Saturnine - that's some quality bolter porn.
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Jul 20, 2020 17:14
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Abnett is just really good with scenery and epic descriptions. I was re-reading Warmaster and Anarch last week and he's got like 3 pages of the Highness Ser Armaduke dropping through the atmosphere and coming into dock and it's just a loving delight to read about and visualize. He had a similar scene at the end of Necropolis when the warmaster's fleet arrives but it wasn't as good as this is.
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Paddyo posted:Abnett still has it. The massed White Scars jet bike charge in Saturnine - that's some quality bolter porn. I was wondering where the great counter-charge of the White Scars would happen. It's always been one of my favorite moments of the faction: stuck in a siege, surrounded on all sides, a war they can only win by surviving, and they say 'Hey what if we all got on our bikes and swept up the dumb footslogging bastards?'
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Seriously. There is something about that specific scene that always gets to me - doesn't matter if it's something like this or the Ride of the Rohirrim. Inspirational speech + cavalry charge = hell yeah.
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The Liberation Fleet translating in-system and deploying the landing force during The Armour of Contempt is hands down my favourite nightmare image Abnett has written. The fleet is so large it disrupts the weather patterns.
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Jul 20, 2020 17:48
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Dog_Meat posted:I remember it from the Ravenor omnibus but couldn't tell you if it was one of the main 3 stories or a short story. I seem to remember it being part of the overall plot and Patience goes under cover as a (horrible, horrible, grimdark) office worker to find out what is going on. Yeah Harlon Nayl tells Ravenor about how the idea of doing another day of that office work scares him way more than fighting the Inquisition's enemies. 
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My fav Abnett section is the atmospheric entry of the cruiser in Know no Fear. God drat a multi-kilometer long lump of metal falling from the sky and hitting terra firma
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Jul 20, 2020 23:15
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The space battle in Sabbat Martyr kicks so much rear end.
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VanSandman posted:I was wondering where the great counter-charge of the White Scars would happen. It's always been one of my favorite moments of the faction: stuck in a siege, surrounded on all sides, a war they can only win by surviving, and they say 'Hey what if we all got on our bikes and swept up the dumb footslogging bastards?' As good as it is I don't think this one in Saturnine is the one you are referring to. Pretty sure the scars are well known as having taken back one of the space ports and significantly hurting the traitor's plans and timeline. I would assume that is what you are referring to and the Khan talks about doing it in Saturnine but it has not been done yet. The Camba Diaz bridge scene stand is probably my favorite from Saturnine. His use of language and sentence length really elevates it. If you've finished Saturnine let's start talking about it because I have been waiting for months and it is sooooo good.
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D-Pad posted:As good as it is I don't think this one in Saturnine is the one you are referring to. Pretty sure the scars are well known as having taken back one of the space ports and significantly hurting the traitor's plans and timeline. I would assume that is what you are referring to and the Khan talks about doing it in Saturnine but it has not been done yet. Saturnine spoilers What's your read on the Olly Piers character? I was waiting the whole book for the reveal that he was Ollanus Pius but when it ended with him going down in a blaze of glory to Angron I was a bit confused. It took the afterword by Abnett (or maybe an interview? I forget) to clarify that he's establishing alternate myths to..I guess keep the readers guessing how the Ollanius Pius thing will play out aboard the Vengeful Spirit. That's the only part of the book that I didn't really click with.
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D-Pad posted:As good as it is I don't think this one in Saturnine is the one you are referring to. Pretty sure the scars are well known as having taken back one of the space ports and significantly hurting the traitor's plans and timeline. I would assume that is what you are referring to and the Khan talks about doing it in Saturnine but it has not been done yet. Yeah, that definitely wasn't the White Scars sally, but I loved the way Abnett described it in the context of a traditional cavalry charge, and how it followed the same rules. I'm only about half-way through the book right now, but it's definitely my favorite of the SoT novels so far.
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How is the Siege of Terra stuff? Do you need to read the first three books before Saturnine? I've generally gone by the "avoid everything but ADB, Wraight, and Abnett" rule of thumb, so I haven't touched the first three.
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You know, I think they've been pretty solid so far. For me John French is maybe just a step below the big three Black Library authors, so I really enjoyed the Solar War, and the other two were okay to good as well. I would try to binge through them before Saturnine, because there are a few connected plots (as well as a few plot lines that were left dangling during the HH series and completed here) that you might miss out on. Angron has a pretty epic super hero landing!
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Khizan posted:How is the Siege of Terra stuff? Do you need to read the first three books before Saturnine? I've generally gone by the "avoid everything but ADB, Wraight, and Abnett" rule of thumb, so I haven't touched the first three. It's great so far. I have read them all twice. Solar War is a solid opening and does a great job of showing just how outnumbered the loyalists are and how little hope they have. French is a great author that doesn't get as much credit as he should. The Horusian War series of his is excellent. Lost and The Damned was solid as well. It also did a great job of showing the scale and hopelessness , this time on the ground. The First Wall was so so, but I would suggest not skipping it. It has some good parts. Saturnine is the best so far. Sons of the Selenar was not that great. It does close out the shattered legions storyline and shows how the primaris project was possible though. a lovely king posted:Saturnine spoilers It was either Ollanus and we just don't see him resurrect because the book ends, or possibly his grandson or something. If it was him he may have had some sort of memory loss considering Grammaticus can't figure out what happened to him. I do think the story is straight up showing that the guardsmen standing between emps and Horus is apocryphal. What happened in Saturnine is the actual story and over 10k years it became what it is today. That whole storyline was about how soldiers lie and why they do that and how it allows them to make it through the horrors of war and then goes on to inspire people in the future. At the end he faced down a primarch standing in front of a banner of emps. I think this is BL's way of retconning what actually happened without just changing it and pretending the old lore never happened. When SoT was getting spun up they heavily hinted the end was not going to be the way everybody thought. I think this was a clever way to retcon something versus how they have done it in the past by just changing it and pretending the old lore never happened.
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Khizan posted:How is the Siege of Terra stuff? Do you need to read the first three books before Saturnine? I've generally gone by the "avoid everything but ADB, Wraight, and Abnett" rule of thumb, so I haven't touched the first three. Solar War and Lost and the Damned are very good and First Wall is at least worth reading. A lot of the non top-three BL authors aren't consistently bad, just uneven. Guy Haley, for example, can be pretty good when he's not bound by the constraints of a direct tabletop tie-in like he was in Dark Imperium, where he had to break up the legitimately interesting Guilliman storyline with fight scenes that are basically ad copy for the Primaris models.
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Foxtrot_13 posted:My fav Abnett section is the atmospheric entry of the cruiser in Know no Fear. Also in KnF when battle tanks start raining from the sky.
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Deptfordx posted:Also in KnF when battle tanks start raining from the sky. Now the Codex Astartes calls this manoeuver steel rain.
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First Wall wasn't bad. Few boring parts in the middle. Also the Addaba guys turning out to be traitors was fine but they had to rub it in at the end that someone in Horus' fleet decided to whack their hive anyway.
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Guyver posted:First Wall wasn't bad. Few boring parts in the middle. Kind of a bummer that the only African settlement on Terra (at least that I can find from googling) got destroyed. I was planning to use it as the source of my Celestial Lions' Primaris Reinforcements.
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Yvonmukluk posted:Kind of a bummer that the only African settlement on Terra (at least that I can find from googling) got destroyed. I was planning to use it as the source of my Celestial Lions' Primaris Reinforcements. The Custodes dex (8E) has a mention of Genestealer Cult infestations in the libraries underneath Nord Afrik in Late M41/Early M42, might be somewhere to start?
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Most of Terra got destroyed during HH. It was all rebuilt by 40k, so not sure why that would matter?
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D-Pad posted:Most of Terra got destroyed during HH. It was all rebuilt by 40k, so not sure why that would matter? I just meant if they wanted the name of a place or something? Dunno.
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D-Pad posted:Most of Terra got destroyed during HH. It was all rebuilt by 40k, so not sure why that would matter? Because I thought the intake of Primaris recruits was undertaken in the Scouring, so Addaba would still be destroyed at that point? Basically I wanted a plausible reason why all my Primaris reinforcements (I'm thinking of having them being the Torchbearer fleet that was supposed to bring the Lions up to full Chapter Strength that was shunted off-course by Inquisitorial dickery) have dark skin despite not coming from Elysium. Schadenboner posted:The Custodes dex (8E) has a mention of Genestealer Cult infestations in the libraries underneath Nord Afrik in Late M41/Early M42, might be somewhere to start? Yeah, I guess the weird spelling is what threw me off. It turns out there's also a 'Midafrik Hive Oligarchy' which Addaba was presumably part of.
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Yvonmukluk posted:Because I thought the intake of Primaris recruits was undertaken in the Scouring, so Addaba would still be destroyed at that point? Basically I wanted a plausible reason why all my Primaris reinforcements (I'm thinking of having them being the Torchbearer fleet that was supposed to bring the Lions up to full Chapter Strength that was shunted off-course by Inquisitorial dickery) have dark skin despite not coming from Elysium. That's actually a good point I didn't think of and I commend your dedication to getting the tiniest details to make sense. You can still make it work though. There is definitely more than one hive/arcology or whatever in Africa even if we only know of one by name, and even as bad as the siege was 100% of the population of Africa was not killed. Also, only the very first generation of Primaris was recruited during the Scouring so even 5 years into Girlyman's return you'd have new Primaris from the 41st millennium.
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Just finished Spear of the Emperor. It's a Space Marine novel, but it's told from the perspective of one of a Space Marine's serfs, an augmented helot that sort of forms a mission control for their master.
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SardonicTyrant posted:Just finished Spear of the Emperor. It's a Space Marine novel, but it's told from the perspective of one of a Space Marine's serfs, an augmented helot that sort of forms a mission control for their master. Spears is great and I would like to see more of the mentor legion. I am pretty sure ADB has already finished the 2nd one, at least the first draft. I'm about halfway through Indomitus. Nothing special so far. An interesting look at dynamics of the elite necrons at least. What is interesting is both the ultramarines captain and Necron lord are incompetent. Not something you typically see in BL fiction, especially ultramarines. Usually even the losing side has competent leadership. Both their 2nds are competent though so it may go somewhere interesting. D-Pad fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Jul 26, 2020 |
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