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Higurashi being "all ages" basically means it has no porn in it. But like I wouldn't want to let a kid read it because uhhhhh
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Yeah "all ages" is basically just a VN euphanism for "no porn," since they would rather not market the "no porn version" and various platforms may not "porn" in the title. Thus instead say "all ages version" regardless of the rest of the content, as they assume the audience is savvy enough to know what that means.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:The PS3 sprites biggest sin is theyre just boring. Theyre functional but generic with 0 personality at all. And the faces look stupid and don't accurately convey what the original sprites go for half the time. Yeah, the original are definitely better in terms of conveying the right expressions and the characters' personalities in general, but the PS3 ones are at least an acceptable alternative. I actually originally read it with the PS3 sprites and only decided the original were better after finishing the game. The Steam/pachinko ones have personality, but it's completely wrong personality to the extent that I'd rather have something generic than that.
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I truly feel like I'm seeing a completely different thing when I hear people praising the original art. It looks like bad MS Paint artwork to me??? I don't get it
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:I truly feel like I'm seeing a completely different thing when I hear people praising the original art. It looks like bad MS Paint artwork to me??? I don't get it Honestly if DARE just showed these posts to children the program would be actually successful
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Jul 14, 2020 04:31
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im going to gently caress up this entire thread tomorrow. this is a warning cause right now im really drunk and not capable of completely destroying the souls of everyone in here yet but let it be known, im gonna be back
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Jul 14, 2020 05:40
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and YES this has something to do with the umineko portraits.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:I truly feel like I'm seeing a completely different thing when I hear people praising the original art. It looks like bad MS Paint artwork to me??? I don't get it akasaka sucks though
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Jul 14, 2020 05:54
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The Umineko original portraits aren't even that bad technically (they're a big improvement over the Higurashi ones). The original Beatrice sprites in particular have a distinctly different sort of feel to them than either of the other updated sprites.  For lack of a better explanation, the original sprites sort of give more of a "loving with you" feeling than a "malicious" one.
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something you see in lots of ryukishi art are the chars who are all dorks—complete fools—have fangs. but the console sprites have like, no fangs you think i'm okay with this?
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MegaZeroX posted:Yeah "all ages" is basically just a VN euphanism for "no porn," since they would rather not market the "no porn version" and various platforms may not "porn" in the title. Thus instead say "all ages version" regardless of the rest of the content, as they assume the audience is savvy enough to know what that means. and they definitely don't want to say "Censored version!" because that sets people off. it's a terrible marketing term though because it has basically destroyed VNDB's ratings data, as people dutifully mark games as the category there called 'All Ages', even though THAT category is SUPPOSED to be for things rated 'E'/CERO A. And of course, many audience members are not, in fact, savvy enough to recognise that 'all ages' does not mean 'this is a game for kids'. People who are diehard VN fans usually get the score. Newcomers do not, and can end up very upset. And this helps to fuel the fires of people believing all VNs are guro fetish porn, since clearly even the games marketed for "all ages" are barely-hidden montrosities trying to pervert the youth. For that matter there's also the occasional bursts of outrage among VN fans that the censorious monsters at steam dared to reject a game "suitable for all ages" (a loli fetish title that didn't have any actual nudity or sex, but a lot of upskirt/backend focus in art.) I hate made-up terminology that exists only to confuse people.
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The euphemism is silly but who exactly is seeing an all ages tag on vndb and slam buying it for their 5 year old kid without looking at the content warnings on the store page? Also can anyone think of a VN that's appropriate for children I'm drawing a blank
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Irony Be My Shield posted:The euphemism is silly but who exactly is seeing an all ages tag on vndb and slam buying it for their 5 year old kid without looking at the content warnings on the store page? Hatoful Boyfriend?
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Hatoful Boyfriend? Someone didn't play it for more than 10 minutes
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Sakurazuka posted:Someone didn't play it for more than 10 minutes Would a child?
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Anyone would!
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Irony Be My Shield posted:The euphemism is silly but who exactly is seeing an all ages tag on vndb and slam buying it for their 5 year old kid without looking at the content warnings on the store page? Nobody sees an all-ages tag on VNDB and buys it for their kid because nobody goes to VNDB unless they know more about VNs. They DO, however, see 'All Ages' on a game on Steam and get the wrong idea. quote:Also can anyone think of a VN that's appropriate for children I'm drawing a blank Lots of people have made cute fairy-tale games in VN format. Why wouldn't they? Bright colors and reading practice with happy sound effects, this is perfectly reasonable kid fodder. They're just not very interesting to adults so they tend not to come up in VN fan discussions, any more than most games for small children come up in hardcore game discussions in other genres. Of course, it's difficult for me to wave my hand and produce a list of them, because for the reason I just complained about you cannot get such a list properly ratings-sorted in VNDB. The first thing that immediately comes to mind is "A Flamingo Tail" which was a tiny little game in a children's coloring book style that won a game jam a few years ago, which is the only reason I remember it. Pretty sure the team behind the fault milestone games made a cute fairy tale game.... (looking it up, https://store.steampowered.com/app/753220/Mhakna_Gramura_and_Fairy_Bell/ ) I haven't played it so I don't know if it's actually darker than it looks. Most VNs wouldn't be appropriate for five year olds because there's too many words, but plenty of them would be appropriate for ten year olds, which are still children, you know! And many VNs are directly adapted from children's books and fairy tales. Why wouldn't you think there were VNs appropriate for children?
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PMush Perfect posted:Raging Loop, Also reading this right now, just got to the first ending (I'm assuming this is where the real game starts because I haven't seen any keys past that mandatory one at the beginning.) About that spoilered part, that just seems to be a lucky coincidence with the translation. I'm reading it in japanese, and the kanji for that plant translates to birds head/birds helmet, no relation to wolves at all
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Ytlaya posted:The Umineko original portraits aren't even that bad technically (they're a big improvement over the Higurashi ones). Yeah, that's a weird direction to take that seems different than the intent of the original. I agree. Interesting to know.
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Was going through Higurashi again and there's something grimly funny about Keiichi in Onikakushi trying to hide every piece of evidence that his parents were out of town, just for them to (probably) ask Rena to make sure their stupid son who has no life skills due to their crappy parenting doesn't starve or burn the house down trying to cook
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Higurashi 6: I'm not finished yet, but holy poo poo this is really good. I got the return to the happy fun times at the beginning that I was hoping for, and it really did make a big difference imo. The fakeout when Rena killed Rina where it seemed like this might be the echo of part 3 before she also killed Teppei was good too. I was kind of wondering if this would just be its own thing since the opening scene with the beginning of Rena's confession felt new, but I was pretty sure some of the dialogue seemed familiar, so it was cool to find out it was both an echo of 1 and also new since it was Rena going crazy now instead of Keiichi. I just got to the part where Keiichi woke up and remembered the events of part 1, which was maybe the best moment in the series so far and provides the first hint that there might be some possibility of a happy ending somewhere in all of this. I won't be raging pissed if there are only bad endings, but even if the hope just exists to be crushed it makes the remainder of the series way more interesting than if 4-8 just existed to explain the tragedies of 1-3 Just finished, and yeah that was my favorite installment yet. One thing that never got resolved from 1 is why Keiichi ended up tearing his throat out if Mion didn't have a syringe. It still seems kind of absurd that he'd completely imagine a needle in the food they brought him earlier too just from normal paranoia, and the way that he, Satoshi and Shion all heard footsteps (though Rena didn't for some reason) also suggests there's still a supernatural influence here beyond "just" a repeating tragic timeline that Rika's lived through hundreds of times. It's now clear that the village was destroyed in 1/6, in addition to 3, but there's still at least a slight mystery around whether Shion's actions short circuited whatever happens there in 2/5 given that Rika dies in a different way and nothing happens immediately. I don't remember how many days were meant to have passed between the festival and when Ooishi visited Keiichi in the hospita in 2, so maybe that does make it clear that it didn't happen and I wasn't paying close enough attention, idk. One final note I have is that I miss the cast party wrap-ups that the first half of the series had, because the developer commentaries in the last two haven't been nearly as interesting. I don't hate them, the cast parties felt like a lighthearted treat at the end after all the misery. Maybe it felt redundant to keep teasing the mysteries after some of them have already been answered, but I feel like there's still a fair amount of mystery left in this series so far. I guess hinting around them might be too blatant now though Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Jul 16, 2020 |
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Regarding Umineko PS3 sprites: has anyone mentioned yet how the new sprites hurt a character arc? A big part of George's arc is struggling to come to terms with his weight and general appearance as he romances Shannon, calling himself overweight and a bit homely. The original sprites show him as clearly a bit overweight:  Whereas the PS3 sprites turn him into a generic bishonen with dagger-sharp chin, thin as a rail, flawless in appearance:  The new sprites don't fit the character or the story being told. Just in general, I feel the PS3 sprites are lifeless, paint-by-numbers anime studio style even if they are of a higher professional quality. Ryukishi's sprites and expressions are full of creativity and charm and clearly convey their intent. I prefer the old ones, but I'm also not going to say people who prefer the new ones are literal trolls with objectively bad opinions or anything. 
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When is George being fat actually referenced in the text? I always thought it was a sprite fuckup. The stuff about his mother pushing him to be an expert martial artist also contradicts it imo
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Fat George is honestly too painful. I'm glad I didn't have to see it until I was done.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:When is George being fat actually referenced in the text? I always thought it was a sprite fuckup. The stuff about his mother pushing him to be an expert martial artist also contradicts it imo In episode 2 or possibly 3, during some of the scenes where he and Shannon are meeting out in the pavilion. I read them back when episode 3 was current, so it's been a while, to say the least. I would find exact lines if I had time, but crawling through hours of video isn't easy, and the full script isn't online in a complete document to quickly search. e: Also, I will give credit to the PS3 sprites for not being as horrendous and angular as the pachinko sprites. Jesus Christ. King Cohort fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Jul 15, 2020 |
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You can really tell how much Of a passion project the Ps3 Sprite pack is Beatrice does not sound like how I imagined her
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King Cohort posted:In episode 2 or possibly 3, during some of the scenes where he and Shannon are meeting out in the pavilion. I read them back when episode 3 was current, so it's been a while, to say the least. I would find exact lines if I had time, but crawling through hours of video isn't easy, and the full script isn't online in a complete document to quickly search. According to early episode 2, he's not really fat or even chubby, but it's possible for him to trend that way.
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Umineko Ep 2 spoiler Just started EP 3 I had a lot more to say but I lost track of it along the week. I guess I'm really starting to get into it with the introduction of the red text, it, and Beatrice's sprite are literally the only things I've ever seen of Umineko before I started so it must be quite important. That said not keeping a log of all the red text was a very strange decision. I didn't realize they would'nt add it to the tips at the end so I kinda hosed up my theory building at the end, rest assured I now have a notebook to write down any I see from now on. Ep2 was sort of a trip compared to Ep1, the main things I stole from it was that it's more important to find a way to deny a witches involvement than to actually find a culprit and the thing's Berkeanstalt said about patterns. If it hold's true It'll be interesting to see how Eva handles having the Winchester in EP 3. Theory wise I'm kind of stumped, locked room mysteries have never been my favorite, and the red text really tripped me up. That said I don't think there was anything saying that the sealed chapel was actually locked before we got there. They want to lead us astray by calling it the sealed chapel and mentioning the lack of other entrance's but also point out how little anyone goes there. As I see it it could've been totally open for month's before the incident. Add Genji, and possibly all the personal servants joining in on the plan it makes most of the locked room mysteries pretty trivial, or at least I think it does, I don't want to replay the chapter to find out if my theories are accurate. Human beatrice was great as beatrice always is, I was playing around looking at Etymology of names seeing if that could help Illuminate my bath, her name means "one who makes happy" extremely accurate, but It also is making me start to feel that this is a much more personal story than it seems. I've already realized it's some sort of Love story, the Without love it can't be seen. and something else that's slipping my mind confirmed it for me. Her focus on Battler, and the EP 2 postgame tips telling me about Battler sharing Kinzo's blood and her focus on me is starting to think it's a cross between a reincarnation, beatrice was kinzo's mistress and battler his "true" heir, and some sort of Innocent sin sort of plot, Someone probably my bro battler forgot something and is unintentionally causing all this. The very beginning of the scene where Rosa was being fed her sibling's also alluded, and semi confirmed in my mind that Rosa was Intentionally or not helping in the slaughter in ep 2. Lambdadelta and Maria looking so similar, and having that Halloween aesthetic is got me thinking too. Purely plot wise battler was weak as gently caress in Ep2 and he better get his poo poo together, more spinning chess boards less crying. He's got the easier position by far in Beatrice's meta game, so he needs to stop complaining and get down to the mysteries. After seeing the...heated opinions about the sprites I've installed the patch, I'll see how the sprite's hold up. the text box option is a godsend though, I've always preferred that style over the over image text, less sloppy lookin' Beatrice's cackle is gonna be set as my text notification[
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Ten seconds in and your gonna give me another witch I see how it is game. "Does that mean magic is easier to use when doing terrifying things" That breaking.....and killing is really easy, but fixing and reviving things is really hard...?" I think they just gave away the core of the story Gaius Marius fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Jul 17, 2020 |
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Back when the Umineko chapters were getting released and we had a thread of it in ADTRW, we actually had an external site for a time that people in the thread were updating with red text categorized by chapters and events (which eventually got deprecated when the Umineko wikia popped up and was doing the same thing). Note that I would strongly recommend not going to look these up since the wikis are going to be rife with spoilers.
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Yeah I briefly considered it but I'd rather try and logic it all out under my own brain power instead of trying to build off others speculation, besides the risk of mousing over some spoiler bomb by accident seems far too large
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I finished Higurashi 7, and like 6, I really enjoyed it. I think I agree with the poster who said those parts were their favorite. It's pretty funny that the only one who seems to have defeated Takano so far is Shion, and it's due to Takano's meddling that she goes nuts in the first place. That seems to disprove the queen theory of the disease too, since the whole village didn't lose their minds in a day or two after Rika's death, so now I'm wondering if Takano actually believes that part, or if she just came up with that theory as a convenient excuse to murder the village. Speaking of, I thought it was pretty interesting that the material Takano used to fuel Rena's paranoia in 6 was so close to the truth this time, given that the theories she presented in previous episodes was designed to mislead the reader as much as the protagonists. I knew that Takano was the villain after running into a spoiler last week, so I'm relieved the cards are on the table in that regard before the final part. Maybe the plot of this one would have been a little more surprising without knowing that ahead of time, but it was plenty enjoyable anyway, and this part was hinting pretty strongly at her villainy even before the official reveal anyway. In general, if I had one complaint about this installment, it's that I felt like I was a step or two ahead of the characters at every turn, from knowing Keiichi would need to convince the hag in order to help Satoko to wanting to shout at Rika to take the advice everyone else was getting that she needed to trust her friends if she wanted anything to change. It still felt rewarding when the characters got to where they needed to get though, and Keiichi threatening to bash in Oryou's head if she refused to nod so Mion would be the new head of the house and could nod in her place was one of my favorite lines of dialogue in the series. I liked the interplay between Hanyuu and Rika because it felt like it applied to readers of the series as well. Believing this episode was going to have a happy ending was inevitably going to lead to disappointment given that it wasn't the final installment, but without any hope at all that this might lead somewhere other than the tragedies that have unfolded so far, I think the series would be a lot less compelling in its back half, and there would be a lot less reason to engage on an emotional level. A cynical reader may have just decided to disengage and wait to see what happens without really caring like Hanyuu suggests, but I think it's more rewarding to remain invested, even if the good end never materializes. On that note, I'm glad Keiichi didn't just magically remember everything in this episode after having the realization in 6, though I'm also glad he and Rena showed signs that there was some bleed through anyway. Having them suddenly remember everything would have felt like cheating, but seeing some kind of progression was nice. I'm pretty excited but also kind of sad to be so close to the end of the series now. I want to see how it ends, but I also don't want it to be over. Hopefully some of the stuff that was made after the conclusion of the series is worth reading too, so I can still revisit this world in the future since I think Mangagamer's still going to be translating that stuff? Obviously I'm avoiding even finding out the premise of any of it for now in case it spoils the ending.
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I largely don't care for most of the post-Matsuribayashi content in Higurashi, finding them overly silly, superfluous, and/or unnecessary. Chapter 8 also wraps up so thoroughly it's really hard IMO to justify the necessity of additional chapters. That said, Saikoroshi is a somewhat decent denouement and does provide some of the threads that connect Higurashi to Umineko.
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Yeah there’s a bit more to dig into but I didn’t feel compelled to experience it all. (Unlike Umineko where I had to do all the side stuff) Saikoroshi is worth it, though, and not that long.
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I finished Higurashi 8, and I think it might be my least favorite part of the series. That isn't to say it's bad, but I don't think it reaches the heights of the rest of it. I'm kind of exhausted from binge reading so hard atm, but here are some initial thoughts while it's fresh: I know they were heavily featured in 6 and 7, so maybe that should excuse this, but Keiichi and Rena basically feeling like afterthoughts in this one seems like a huge mistake to me. Keiichi was presented as the protagonist of the series even from Rika's perspective, so for him to barely matter in the resolution felt like a cop out. I get that the actions of everyone else were clearly influenced by his actions in previous episodes (even the Sonozakis were clearly behaving in a way that showed the influence of his arguments in 7), but running out of things for him to do in the finale is really weird. The same holds true for Rena too--Mion got to be the heroic general, Satoko's traps were half the story, and even Shion got things to do (even if she mostly just ate poo poo), but Keiichi and Rena were just sort of there. Rika was more passive this time too, other than when she offered herself up at the Sonozaki residence and during the final miracle. I got a little tired of reading au au au au, but I was fine with Hanyuu taking a more prominent role (even if her role in motivating people may have taken away from Keiichi's role). I really thought she was going to be the sacrifice at the end to let them all achieve happiness, but it was nice that she got her happy ending after an even longer time waiting than Rika. Speaking of the happy ending though, the idea that everything was resolved without any loss of life on either side just didn't work for me. I think any happy ending was going to risk feeling a little sappy and untrue to the rest of the series, but this version was pretty cartoonish. There were always silly cartoon elements to the series of course, but outside of Takano's tragic backstory, the tonal shift was pretty jarring to me. Satoko's traps went from a minor nuisance to something that could defeat a company of men, and Mion (while always presented as skilled) easily defeating Okonogi made Akasaka feel kind of superfluous as the martial arts badass who defeated him earlier, even if Akasaka was off doing other stuff by that point in the story. Complaints aside, while I think the ending we got was cheesier than I would have preferred, I'm glad it wasn't just another setup for misery. I was prepared for the rug to be pulled out at the last second, but that didn't happen. The characters and audience had seen enough misery, so something good happening felt right even if it also felt too easy. At least Satoshi didn't magically wake up and immediately join them, and everyone didn't make common cause with Takano and Teppei at the end like Ryukishi07 discussed in the creator comments. While Hinamiza Syndrome was offered as a potential excuse for her actions, I feel like there was at least some ambiguity there to suggest it was a convenient scapegoat. She never seemed to really be suffering from the hallucinations or paranoia of terminal patients at least, so I think she was still at a stage where she still had significant responsibility for her actions either way. While this wasn't my favorite part, I loved the series as a whole, and I don't feel like this one cheapened the overall experience or anything. I really hope I'm able to convince a friend to read Umineko with me, so I can speculate alongside someone instead of just writing a bunch of stuff for people who've already read it to laugh about as I fumble in the dark.
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I feel the intention with Rena and Keiichi is more or less explicitly, "their principal arcs are over after the events of Tsumihoroboshi". Hence why they are seemingly able to resolve their previous lives' problems on their own in Minagoroshi. With Mion, I think a portion is the simple fact that when you really break down the story up to that point she really hasn't had the spotlight compared to the other characters. This is actually an interesting topic IMO when you think about Rule Z (the Sonozakis present themselves as the perpetrators of the murders even if they aren't actually). Mion never succumbs to the syndrome since she never has a reason to be paranoid like the other characters would be, and I kind of like that sort of fridge logic when you think about who the protagonists are in each chapter and why they did what they did. But this results in you getting to the final story and her never actually having an active role in the ongoing plot, so I think it's fine that they let her be the leader. It's a common sentiment that the Mountain Hounds getting owned on the mountain is a bit over the topic and silly, so you're not alone there. I didn't love it at the time but I think now I'm more or less over it given how used I've gotten to Ryukishi07's later writings where that sort of stuff is more common (and utilized far more effectively). Personally I like that the ending is as saccharine as it is because it does feel cathartic after the misery of the previous chapters, especially Minagoroshi's ending. It's the final Bernkastel poem that seals it for me for WHY it had to be that way: Everyone has a right to pursue a happy life. The difficult part is to be given that right. Everyone has a right to pursue a happy life. The difficult part is to fulfill that right. I too have a right to pursue a happy life. The difficult part is to work out a compromise for that right. That's because I'm gonna become much much more happy from now on. I'm not gonna compromise with just this. We are gonna take back all of our happiness that we lost. For me, that's about a hundred year's worth. For you, a thousand year's worth. There is PS2/PS3-exclusive arc called Miotsukushi that does offer an alternative ending: Keiichi joins up with Rika and Hanyuu to thwart Takano, but they also have to go out of their way to solve all of the previous story problems (Shion, Rena, Satoko being abused by her uncle, etc.). Hanyuu is also shot and killed by Takano at the end. Which, I don't know, I guess it's neat that that sort of story also exists but I maintain that it sort of misses the point and making Keiichi/Rika have to solve the Tsumihoroboshi/Meakashi events all over again I feel is very reductive towards the arcs that we already got to see play out and resolved by the time of Minagoroshi. Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Jul 19, 2020 |
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That's a fair point about Mion never being the focus. Even Rika was kind of disparaging her as possibly being too weak to be the crucial person in any world, so finding a way to make up for that made sense. And Satoko's most prominent role was as a victim previously, so giving her a chance to shine made sense too. I still think Keiichi could have at least used a scene or two where he gets everyone fired up for the battle (while still leaving the strategy to Mion) instead of just swinging a bat around in Satoko's wake. Like I said, I know he and Rena did influence what happened through their efforts in the previous two worlds, but I think all the screen time the adults got took away from the club members so that the ones who didn't stand out basically felt like they just stopped mattering entirely. Speaking of shortchanged characters, I think Ooishi got shortchanged a bit too. Yeah, he had a cool moment standing up to that corrupt cop, but the Sonozakis were the ones who had the power move there, and Ooishi completely disappeared from the narrative after that. Having him make peace with them after realizing how wrong he'd been all along was a nice character moment, but for an installment that focused so heavily on the adults, he was sidelined pretty hard. The determination of the characters not to settle for anything less than a fully happy ending was made pretty clear, so it wasn't a total fairytale ending out of nowhere that conflicted with everything that came before, and I prefer them getting their happiness to a downer ending that would drown them and the audience in misery, but I do still feel like things came together too easily regardless. I don't know what specifically I would have wanted to change to make things feel harder won except for maybe Irie to sacrifice himself for their cause. Obviously the idea that anyone needs to be sacrificed to resolve any sin is something that was philosophically rejected by the creator, so maybe I'm just more vengeful than he is and that's what my issue with this stems from, but holy poo poo did Irie seem to get off easy for his part in everything. Even if he and Tomitake had just been arrested, it would have given more gravity to the whole thing. I guess there's a cynical element where you can view the lack of consequence as part of the systemic corruption where the higher ups in Tokyo are the ones erasing the incident from memory, but the willingness of everyone else to pretend nothing ever happened and just move on felt weird too. Anyway, like I said before, the fact that I didn't enjoy this as much as some previous installments doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it. I think the greatness of 6 and 7 in particular just created expectations that were hard to live up to, as did having to create a satisfying narrative to conclude the series once all the important mysteries had already been resolved. Maybe saving a major twist for later could have helped. I think the fragments took away from the story a bit too, by explaining any unresolved questions anyone might have outside of the actual narrative, and making something like Satoshi's survival and return to the narrative completely unsurprising. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jul 19, 2020 |
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Higurashi chapter 8: Honestly, I really enjoyed the cartoonish good ending aspect of it. To me its kind of what I was looking for in an ending I guess. Just a feel good thing with everyone getting to show off. Keichi and Rena were the only ones that didn't really get much, but considering how much they already had previously, this was perfectly fine to me.
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Yeah all of the feelings about 8 is why I feel like Saikoroshi is kind of an interesting coda to the series.
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Jul 19, 2020 21:17
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I doubt I'll ever reread the whole thing, just because of how insanely long it is, but I do think I'll watch the anime after a while just to revisit the world and see what the experience is like without all the mystery. I'll definitely look into some of the supplementary arcs too, though I haven't decided how far down that rabbit hole I want to go--I might wait for the ones coming to Steam to show up there, though I'm impatient to see what's going on in Saikoroshi now. I'm very much looking forward to Umikeno and Ciconia, but I'll be taking a significant break first, both because I'm not ready to invest in something this big again right away, and because I want to see if I can recruit anyone to read them with. Plus I'm a chronic hoarder, so the thought of finishing them all and then having nothing left to look forward to bothers me.
Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Jul 19, 2020 |
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Jul 19, 2020 21:18
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