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Guavanaut posted:Is divorce4menuk dot com a Liz Taylor fan site? Phones4U subsidiary.
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Dead Goon posted:The answer clearly lies somewhere in the middle. The Lib Dems are abusers?
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Jul 20, 2020 13:45
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i'm not gonna take any vaccine the UK gov offers for some time tbh i just honestly dont trust them to not push some bullshit to get people back to work that gives you heart problems 5 years down the line cause they skipped human trials
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Jul 20, 2020 13:48
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Spitting image returning to our screens? That'd be perfect for 2020.
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Communist Thoughts posted:i'm not gonna take any vaccine the UK gov offers for some time tbh That's certainly a take 
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Jul 20, 2020 13:49
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Communist Thoughts posted:i'm not gonna take any vaccine the UK gov offers for some time tbh Good news though, they preordered 90 million vaccines that haven't gone to trial yet. And they definitely won't roll them out and see what sticks even if they end up killing people.
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Jul 20, 2020 13:50
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Necrothatcher posted:this is parked outside the court atm I can't be the only one who saw this and thought of the old "How to cook men/How to cook for men/How to cook forty men/How to cook for forty men" joke
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Jul 20, 2020 13:53
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The governement's human trial is giving michael gove the vaccine and seeing if he survives, which is flawed on several levels.
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Jul 20, 2020 13:55
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kingturnip posted:That's certainly a take i've read several dozen articles by now about how "x company is FAST FORWARDING their vaccine program!" thats a real bad idea. i'm not taking any vaccine that has been rushed lol, crappy vaccines can be super loving dangerous. we've also seen the collapse in credibility of PHE and the central NHS so yeah i just don't trust them. I'll wait and see personally. would the gov and media pushing a vaccine that later turns out to be harmful really be beyond imagination at this point?
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Jul 20, 2020 13:59
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The tories managing to gently caress up messaging on the vaccine enough for the virus to survive, mutate and kickstart a second pandemic would absolutely be on brand for them. I'll take it because the virus itself has much worse long-term consequences for me than any possible cute, but that's not going to loving matter if it survives in pockets of gammons reinfecting each other to own the libs. The Libearian posted:Its a loving rough time to be be online as a survivor.
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Jul 20, 2020 13:59
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It's not like tory governments have ever had any issues with massively mishandling medical crises in the past.
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Jul 20, 2020 14:01
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Communist Thoughts posted:i've read several dozen articles by now about how "x company is FAST FORWARDING their vaccine program!" yeah this. won't be taking it if its been fast tracked & no research has been done into how it interacts with 5g
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Jul 20, 2020 14:13
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If it's the Oxford one then it'll probably be fine since after reading the article they seem super competent and they only have a headstart because they were working on a MERS vaccine and were able to switch gears.
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Jul 20, 2020 14:16
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they dumped the failed vaccine into the lake and it turned all the frogs into hauwei phones
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Jul 20, 2020 14:16
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Szmitten posted:If it's the Oxford one then it'll probably be fine since after reading the article they seem super competent and they only have a headstart because they were working on a MERS vaccine and were able to switch gears. Yeah, the oxford vaccine research is basically the only thing that's keeping me hopeful about the prospect of ever leaving my house for more than an hour at a time to buy groceries again.
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Jul 20, 2020 14:19
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I'll take the vaccine because it'll probably be demanded of me by the NHS Trust that employs me. And if there are significant side effects, then the NHS will be catastrofucked beyond anything we've ever seen. Which makes me think it will - in all likelihood - be a very safe vaccine.
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Jul 20, 2020 14:23
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kingturnip posted:I'll take the vaccine because it'll probably be demanded of me by the NHS Trust that employs me. What's that? You say a vaccine with serious side effects would be the final conclusive proof that the NHS isn't fit for purpose and must be privatised immediately? Well, good thing nobody has any incentive to try and convince us of that then. Especially our benevolent and caring government.
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Jul 20, 2020 14:46
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Bobstar posted:Climbing sounds like my idea of hell (give me rope access any day), but it's fascinating to see all the different things that flourish when basic needs are taken care of, even a little bit. What you say about acting being overly middle class and white unfortunately holds true in UK outdoor activities as well. As you can tell from my post it was also very much a boys' club for a long time, though I could have mentioned women like Lucy Walker, one of the best alpinists of the 1800s, or exceptional climbers of the 1980/90s like Alison Hargreaves and Lucy Creamer. That aspect has definitely improved a lot and you'll see a pretty even gender split at the crag now I think. Red Oktober posted:That is a super post - I had no idea the background was so similar to the music scene in those ways - although I did know about the Sheffield side from when I met Steve McClure a few years back - he was setting the wall at (what was the) Reebok gym in Canary Wharf. I have a signed copy of his autobiography from that day! It has whole sections on Sheffield (where he still lives)
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Jul 20, 2020 14:47
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namesake posted:Leavers weren't concerned about the EUs homosexual agenda. A whole lot of other bigoted attitudes yes but those also pre-date the EU. Don't be so sure. YouGov round a huge difference (averaging twenty points) in how Leavers and Remainers view trans right, with Remainers being more tolerant.
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Jul 20, 2020 14:54
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https://twitter.com/Babble___/status/1285192802796789760 Not even sure he's adopted tbh. I can see the family resemblance.
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Jul 20, 2020 14:57
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Tapes of Heard & Depp talking in therapy contain clear admissions by Heard that she was emotionally and physically abusing him, and that she would gaslight him saying it was his fault for making her mad. That's obviously terrible, but shouldn't therapy be ridiculously confidential?
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Jul 20, 2020 15:16
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Dabir posted:What's that? You say a vaccine with serious side effects would be the final conclusive proof that the NHS isn't fit for purpose and must be privatised immediately? Well, good thing nobody has any incentive to try and convince us of that then. Especially our benevolent and caring government. I meant that there would - even with an exceptionally friendly and sycophantic media - be quite literally no way for a Government to recover from giving an improperly-tested vaccine with serious side effects to 75-80% of NHS staff. It would be 'flee the country'-levels of bad.
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Jul 20, 2020 15:24
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Humans are such easy prey...
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Jul 20, 2020 15:24
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Stop freaking out about vaccines please you sound like morons.
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Jul 20, 2020 15:27
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I mean half my family was wiped out by HIV infected blood transfusions in the 80's so call me skeptical of the government's ability to not kill loads of people through politically motivated medical malpractice.
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Jul 20, 2020 15:31
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kingturnip posted:I meant that there would - even with an exceptionally friendly and sycophantic media - be quite literally no way for a Government to recover from giving an improperly-tested vaccine with serious side effects to 75-80% of NHS staff. haha, what are they gonna do? lock themselves up? worst that can happen is they lose an election and go get some cushy directorship or edit a paper and even then I think you're seriously underestimating how sycophantic the UK media is. its UK doctrine to not mention anything that would upset the public, cause thats not in the public interest. there'd be an inquiry but there would be bipartisan agreeement across the whole establishment that nobody would want peoples faith in the government shaken too much.
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Jul 20, 2020 15:36
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Darth Walrus posted:Don't be so sure. YouGov round a huge difference (averaging twenty points) in how Leavers and Remainers view trans right, with Remainers being more tolerant. That's not really demonstrating anything, Leavers were more socially regressive than average about a whole lot of things. My argument was that having minority rights campaigns existing prior to and independently of EU requirements mean that the EU is not seen as a plot by the gays in the same way is is often framed in eastern Europe and Russia.
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like its worth remembering that in the last 10 years the tories have: - killed 100,000+ people with austerity to make their friends wealthier - are currently deporting black british citizens to countries they have never been to because the home office intentionally destroyed their passports - stripped building regulations and let a tower full of people burn to death to save five grand - publically announced they were going to have us all "take this on the chin" with an epidemic that has gone on to kill tens of thousands and basically every government minister has broken quarantine during there is nothing thats so beyond the pale that the press won't cover for them, and nothing so beyond the pale that the establishment would risk upsetting social order over. the press may turn on bojo and try to get the knighted spook in instead but they won't actually enforce any consequences on the government. thats antithetical to the way the UK does things and always has been. so yeah im sorry, the government could posion you and all your colleagues and have a report coming out proving they did it on purpose and who is gonna enforce consequences? whats the mechanic to do so? shame? the honour system? there'd be some guardian and indie opeds and then within 2 years you'd be called hysterical for bringing it up
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Communist Thoughts posted:there'd be some guardian and indie opeds and then within 2 years you'd be called hysterical for bringing it up Now is not the time (when is it ever?), stop doing down ArE BriTanE. We are where we are. Time to put this behind us and start building a better Britane. Masks off, poppies on, and clap for BoJo on a Thursday evening.
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Saros posted:Stop freaking out about vaccines please you sound like morons. Vaccines aren't apolitical, it is possible to critically look at their application without being anti-vax. I will die on this hill.
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Jul 20, 2020 15:48
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There was some crazy illegal rave on a deserted airfield near bath last weekend. 3000 people. The police said they couldn't shut it down until morning as they didn't have enough officers. Sounds nuts. I wish I was young again.
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Jul 20, 2020 15:52
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thrashingteeth posted:it is possible to critically look at their application without being anti-vax. lol no it's really not either you think vaccines are a good or thing or you don't, there's really no grey area here
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Jul 20, 2020 15:57
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Julio Cruz posted:lol no it's really not Vaccines being rolled out before they have been tested fully or have had their serious side effects over looked because the government really just want everything "back to normal" so number can go up seems a reasonable grey area.
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Jul 20, 2020 15:59
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Jippa posted:There was some crazy illegal rave on a deserted airfield near bath last weekend. 3000 people. The police said they couldn't shut it down until morning as they didn't have enough officers. they've been happening on dartmoor regularly since the lockdown started, presumably the same everywhere else. Luckily the virus can't transmit during <insert mockery of music popular with youths>
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forkboy84 posted:Vaccines being rolled out before they have been tested fully or have had their serious side effects over looked because the government really just want everything "back to normal" so number can go up seems a reasonable grey area. except you realise it's not the government that's doing the testing, right? it's not really up to them if the vaccine gets released or not
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Jul 20, 2020 16:03
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Julio Cruz posted:lol no it's really not Wait no, that would be cool.
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Julio Cruz posted:lol no it's really not So how are they made? Do they just pop out of the ground with no external factors effecting the duration of their production? Vaccines are good no question but pretending that they are somehow immune to the issues surrounding biomedical research PARTICULARLY when there is a global pandemic is just unrealistic. forkboy84 posted:Vaccines being rolled out before they have been tested fully or have had their serious side effects over looked because the government really just want everything "back to normal" so number can go up seems a reasonable grey area. Makes sense to me tbh.
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