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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Doc Hawkins posted:

happy monday, the fix is in:

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1285249452626923521

So this guy waits five years to get revenge by disguising himself as a fedex driver, does it four days after the judge takes This Case, then shoots himself in his car, with a fedex package addressed to the judge in the passenger seat.

:chaostrump:

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Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


couldn't have happened to a nicer guy, though

https://twitter.com/lib_crusher/status/1285272234995535879

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

sharknado slashfic posted:

After catching up on Kanye's rally I'm convinced he'll be the next President of the United States

I heard this morning somewhere that he's already suspended his "campaign."

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


Doc Hawkins posted:

So this guy waits five years to get revenge by disguising himself as a fedex driver, does it four days after the judge takes This Case, then shoots himself in his car, with a fedex package addressed to the judge in the passenger seat.

Yes?

Correlation doesn't equal causation. Also if his goal was to silence the judge, he did a lovely job since he didn't :checks notes: kill the judge.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Doc Hawkins posted:

happy monday, the fix is in:

So this guy waits five years to get revenge by disguising himself as a fedex driver, does it four days after the judge takes This Case, then shoots himself in his car, with a fedex package addressed to the judge in the passenger seat.

Every indication is that the shooter was a Men's Rights Activist shithead lawyer.

https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1285279096826736641?s=19

https://twitter.com/Xomfort/status/1285279403526758400?s=19

Edit: addition https://twitter.com/wyatt_privilege/status/1285282288935280640?s=19

So yeah, very unlikely to be Epstein-related. The particular judge had the Epstein case for only four days anyways - seems far more likely that he was some MRA gently caress that snapped, like they always do.

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Jul 20, 2020

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Doc Hawkins posted:

happy monday, the fix is in:

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1285249452626923521

So this guy waits five years to get revenge by disguising himself as a fedex driver, does it four days after the judge takes This Case, then shoots himself in his car, with a fedex package addressed to the judge in the passenger seat.

So is this a QAnon Clinton Body Count thing or a TrumpAnon Trump Body Count thing? Please explain with lots of grainy photos, lengths of string and exclamation marks.





OR IS IT BOTH?!?

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

they're gonna have the exact same coroner do the examination lol

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

facialimpediment posted:


So yeah, very unlikely to be Epstein-related. The particular judge had the Epstein case for only four days anyways - seems far more likely that he was some MRA gently caress that snapped, like they always do.

C'mon, you don't pick someone mentally stable with a pristine record to be your fall guy. Look at Oswald.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

facialimpediment posted:

Every indication is that the shooter was a Men's Rights Activist shithead lawyer.

https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1285279096826736641?s=19

https://twitter.com/Xomfort/status/1285279403526758400?s=19

Edit: addition https://twitter.com/wyatt_privilege/status/1285282288935280640?s=19

So yeah, very unlikely to be Epstein-related. The particular judge had the Epstein case for only four days anyways - seems far more likely that he was some MRA gently caress that snapped, like they always do.

Oh hey, I had been so focused on Trump's Nazis that I almost forgot about the wave of MRA killings a few years ago.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


joat mon posted:

So is this a QAnon Clinton Body Count thing or a TrumpAnon Trump Body Count thing? Please explain with lots of grainy photos, lengths of string and exclamation marks.





OR IS IT BOTH?!?

I don't think either the Clintons or Trumps are especially exposed in the Deutsche Bank case, but who can say, we'll almost certainly never know.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Stultus Maximus posted:

Oh hey, I had been so focused on Trump's Nazis that I almost forgot about the wave of MRA killings a few years ago.

How do you know those killings weren't done by the Deep Epstein?

ganglysumbia
Jan 29, 2005

Doc Hawkins posted:

I don't think either the Clintons or Trumps are especially exposed in the Deutsche Bank case, but who can say, we'll almost certainly never know.

Deutsche Bank gave Trump millions, they then asked for the “loan” to be repayed and so naturally Trump sued them. Some agreement was made and he either did not have to repay it or only a part of it. Then Deutsche Bank proceeded to loan him more money... Some Russian oligarch was involved in there somewhere.

The Dollop podcast went into it in depth if you are interested, episode 300A.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


https://twitter.com/KannoYoungs/status/1285290324475162625?s=20

The dog just started barking for no reason. Also the BBC would be reporting on this if it was a country in Africa, the Mideast, or Asia probably "Federal security forces are being sent into opposition lead cities and have assaulted peaceful protests against the ruling administration. Britain and France are advising expats of scheduled planned departure orders."

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

ganglysumbia posted:

Deutsche Bank gave Trump millions, they then asked for the “loan” to be repayed and so naturally Trump sued them. Some agreement was made and he either did not have to repay it or only a part of it. Then Deutsche Bank proceeded to loan him more money... Some Russian oligarch was involved in there somewhere.

The Dollop podcast went into it in depth if you are interested, episode 300A.

My goal in life is to somehow get the superpower Trump has that lets him weasel his way out of debt.

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

BigDave posted:

My goal in life is to somehow get the superpower Trump has that lets him weasel his way out of debt.

A rich daddy?

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Donnie's going to be so, so, so pissed off about this one.

https://twitter.com/Nationals/status/1285308233083686913?s=19

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

Yes.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

BigDave posted:

My goal in life is to somehow get the superpower Trump has that lets him weasel his way out of debt.

A legendary lack of morality bolstered by "beautiful and tremendous" international real estate holdings usually located in cities with notoriously robust underworlds who conveniently also use your bank?

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Jul 20, 2020

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

sharknado slashfic posted:

C'mon, you don't pick someone mentally stable with a pristine record to be your fall guy. Look at Oswald.

I read a good argument against there being a super conspiracy that noted "board a city bus to get away" as opposed to providing a car, should have gotten caught in the planning stages.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

facialimpediment posted:

Donnie's going to be so, so, so pissed off about this one.

https://twitter.com/Nationals/status/1285308233083686913?s=19

IT's gonna be zhukov all over again

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

Milo and POTUS posted:

IT's gonna be zhukov all over again

I would very happily watch a Fauci biography starting Jason Isaacs.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



I love how the 2A right wing nuts on reddit are all saying that the peaceful protesters in Portland should just start popping off rounds at the feds.

They really just want poo poo to devolve into a bloodbath.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
holy poo poo they got charged

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1285330926684209152?s=19

It won't last, as the governor has already said he will pardon them, but gently caress, that's a good thing.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local...cd10d97f4c.html

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Jul 20, 2020

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


orange juche posted:

I love how the 2A right wing nuts on reddit are all saying that the peaceful protesters in Portland should just start popping off rounds at the feds.

They really just want poo poo to devolve into a bloodbath.

I also read them posting that Portland is entirely the Dems fault...

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

facialimpediment posted:

holy poo poo they got charged

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1285330926684209152?s=19

It won't last, as the governor has already said he will pardon them, but gently caress, that's a good thing.

Also Kim Gardner has bitten off more than she can chew before, with the previous governor.

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

facialimpediment posted:

holy poo poo they got charged

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1285330926684209152?s=19

It won't last, as the governor has already said he will pardon them, but gently caress, that's a good thing.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local...cd10d97f4c.html

Would admitting guilt by accepting a pardon for the felony charge affect their ability to practice law in Missouri?

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Lemniscate Blue posted:

Would admitting guilt by accepting a pardon for the felony charge affect their ability to practice law in Missouri?

I doubt they realize this and will be absolutely shocked when they get disbarred.

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

Lemniscate Blue posted:

Would admitting guilt by accepting a pardon for the felony charge affect their ability to practice law in Missouri?

I'm sure a felony could trigger a disbarment hearing

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Flikken posted:

I'm sure a felony could trigger a disbarment hearing

Apparently being found guilty of a felony is enough on its own to get you disbarred in US (accepting pardon is same as admitting guilt). They can always move though.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

orange juche posted:

I doubt they realize this and will be absolutely shocked when they get disbarred.

They're rich and well connected lawyers. Wealth protects wealth and it's hard as gently caress to get disbarred.

Also, Gardener completely made a mess of the Eric Greitens sex pest case. She brought charges even though the key evidence, the photo supposedly used for blackmail, was not in her possession and she never produced it. She also had a key witness get indicted for perjury after she refused to let the defense interview him or see his evidence. She hosed it up so badly that she dropped the sex pest charge as well as dropping a much more solid case of felony tampering when he stole a nonprofit list and used it for his campaign data in exchange for him to just resign with no criminal charges.

I have no faith in her ability to prosecute a high visibility case like this.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Lemniscate Blue posted:

Would admitting guilt by accepting a pardon for the felony charge affect their ability to practice law in Missouri?

Accepting a pardon of not an admission of guilt.
The licenses are at risk by their actions. A disciplinary action would be separate from convicted/not convicted and from pardoned/not pardoned.
(Granted, convicted and not pardoned would make disbarment more likely)

EBB posted:

Do they still lose 2A rights and enfranchisement even if pardoned?

No, unless the pardon specifically excepts restoration of 2A rights.

joat mon fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Jul 20, 2020

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Do they still lose 2A rights and enfranchisement even if pardoned?

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

EBB posted:

Do they still lose 2A rights and enfranchisement even if pardoned?

A pardon means officially it never happened.

brains
May 12, 2004

hobbesmaster posted:

A pardon means officially it never happened.

no a pardon is an admission of guilt with complete relief of consequences

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

hobbesmaster posted:

A pardon means officially it never happened.

What? No, a Pardon doesn't mean that. Pardons do not expunge guilt or record of guilt, it just means you don't suffer the consequences. At the Federal level a Pardon also waives your 5th amendment rights since to accept a pardon you have to fully admit guilt to accept it

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1285299379746811915

Donald Trump has always worn a face mask. In fact, he invented them. What the gently caress are you libs going on about?

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May
Does anyone else smell burnt toast?

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



pantslesswithwolves posted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1285299379746811915

Donald Trump has always worn a face mask. In fact, he invented them. What the gently caress are you libs going on about?

Donald Trump not wearing a mask is fake news.

(all previous pictures of DJT in public will have the Presidential Facemask crudely photoshopped over them)

E: This is a good idea for a photoshop thread.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Flikken posted:

I'm sure a felony could trigger a disbarment hearing

Patricia McCloskey sits on the St Louis Bar's ethics board Missouri Bar Association Ethics-review panel.

Or at least sat. Someone might have already kicked her off by now.

e: correction

Doc Hawkins fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Jul 21, 2020

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Woodchip
Mar 28, 2010

pantslesswithwolves posted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1285299379746811915

Donald Trump has always worn a face mask. In fact, he invented them. What the gently caress are you libs going on about?

the B&W gives this serious Dwyer energy

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